I'm in my local comic shop yesterday, just getting some more art supplys, when i hear this scream from down the back of the shop, at this point some 17 year old girl comes running up to the front of the shop, thinking somethings wrong the guy working there rushes over.
at this point what we assume is the girls boyfriend starts walking over from where they first were. the owner asks is is everything ok and which she replys
"no it's him, i'm not having anything to do with him until he admits that twilight is a better vampire movie than 30 days of night"
and she storms out of the shop, the boyfriend give the two of us a look of WTF and follows her.
all that reaction over a crappy movie, what the hell <_<
Nice, they should both watch Let The Right One In instead:
http://www.theconnoisseurs.com/lettherightonein.html
QuoteThank god vampires are finally gaining relevance again. I'm not talking about Twilight of course, that movie is just another attempt to domesticate bloodsuckers for the Harry Potter crowd while teaching the values of abstinence. What I'm referring to is the Swedish movie Let The Right One In, a return to the moral ambiguity, superstition, violence and inhumanity that vampire stories have traditionally benefited from.
Wasn't Twilight the same thing to vampire movies as Legends Of The Fall was to western/action movies?
At least they found a good reason to break up. I mean, come on! "We couldn't agree on vampire movies." What screams CLOSURE more than that? Even years from now, they can look back and think, "Yeah, it never could have worked. We were just too different."
:P
BTW, lugaru, I loved LTROI. And, I am not against Twilight and other movies of the "girls like fantasizing about being desired and pursued by dangerous, sexy, angst-ridden vampires" genre. But, it's refreshing to see a vampire movie where the vampire feeding on humans isn't a proxy for romance.
Please...
Blacula for the win.
Honestly, Interview with the Vampire was a much better movie. As well as Underworld.
I want to see Let the Right One In so badly. Oh man. Haha.
Quote from: Gremlin on May 27, 2009, 08:10:16 PM
I want to see Let the Right One In so badly. Oh man. Haha.
My advice is DONT stream it on netflix, for some reason they uploaded a copy with messed up audio, so I gave up after a few minutes and bumped it to the top of my queue. On the other hand it is out on DVD (some foreign movies are out on DVD before they even reach american theaters) so odds are you can rent or buy it.
I personally like vampire mythologies where they aren't just bloodthirsty beasts. I like the Twilight vampires, but the actual story is overly simplistic and not that great, although okay, and given what I consider to be a decent moral content, I'm more than happy to have teenage girls fall all over it, given some of the other things they could go nuts about.
Moonlight vampires I also like. I haven't seen a lot of other ones, and I probably won't see thirty days because the content is likely to be beyond what I care to watch. There is no reason to get upset because of a mere difference of opinion in the matter, especially since any red-blooded male who would agree with her probably has something wrong with him anyway. If she hasn't figured out that men and women are different by now that he isn't the one with problems.
Josh Hartnett is twice as handsome as all the Twilight vampires put together!
Quote from: lugaru on May 27, 2009, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Gremlin on May 27, 2009, 08:10:16 PM
I want to see Let the Right One In so badly. Oh man. Haha.
My advice is DONT stream it on netflix, for some reason they uploaded a copy with messed up audio, so I gave up after a few minutes and bumped it to the top of my queue. On the other hand it is out on DVD (some foreign movies are out on DVD before they even reach american theaters) so odds are you can rent or buy it.
I will keep that in mind. Thanks!
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 27, 2009, 08:23:25 PM
I personally like vampire mythologies where they aren't just bloodthirsty beasts. I like the Twilight vampires, but the actual story is overly simplistic and not that great, although okay, and given what I consider to be a decent moral content, I'm more than happy to have teenage girls fall all over it, given some of the other things they could go nuts about.
Ehhh...I initially liked the Twilight series but then I read the third and fourth books and realized that while a pro-teen abstinence message is great, the complete and utter dependence of the main characters on each other kind of ruined the series for me.
For the life of me I cannot figure out the attraction of twilight. It was a horrible plot with nasty soap-opera characters. It was a bad story with the gloss of good looking actors and neat visuals. I didn't mind the new concept of vampires so much, but the decent elements of that concept didn't show through to allow room for a throw-up-in-your-mouth teen romance.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who was forced to watch it by their other halves.
Damn, I miss Dark Shadows.
(The soap opera, not the nighttime series)
QuoteFor the life of me I cannot figure out the attraction of twilight. It was a horrible plot with nasty soap-opera characters. It was a bad story with the gloss of good looking actors and neat visuals. I didn't mind the new concept of vampires so much, but the decent elements of that concept didn't show through to allow room for a throw-up-in-your-mouth teen romance.
No one here seems to disagree with you there. The vampire concept is good, the rest is at least harmless, if not terribly good. Personally the Moonlight vampires are the ones I like best. I have no doubt some of you will disagree vigorously, though.
Quote from: Reepicheep on May 27, 2009, 08:58:49 PM
For the life of me I cannot figure out the attraction of twilight. It was a horrible plot with nasty soap-opera characters. It was a bad story with the gloss of good looking actors and neat visuals. I didn't mind the new concept of vampires so much, but the decent elements of that concept didn't show through to allow room for a throw-up-in-your-mouth teen romance.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who was forced to watch it by their other halves.
The books were the big launching point: if not for the rabid fan base, the movie would've done HORRIBLY. The characterization is more interesting in the novels than the film, especially in the first book, since the rest of them all seem to hinge on the characters doing very out-of-character things to set the plot in motion, then hopping back in and dealing with their actions.
While I like Twilight mocking as much as the next guy, I am going to reiterate Let the Right One In... that movie was amazing.
Also all the DVD's prior to a reissue in the last couple of months had issues with audio AND subtitles.
I listen to the Slate podcast and they discussed the books at some point, lets just say I would never read them but I see what teen girls see in them... they are full of descriptions of muscled, bare chested vampires that glisten in the moonlight as they lie there, pouting. Looks like the writer is a mormon too, which explains the whole "we cannot get too close" metaphor, but I'm guessing that just like in real life those fangs eventually meet her neck.
On vampires I love vicious and savage vamps and I wrote a few short stories (in spanish, I'm sorry) about uncultured, alcoholic vampire construction workers rebuilding Mexico city after a big meteor strike. The ranchero (or redneck) vampire idea makes me smile, which is why I loved how in Buffy several vampires where not goths, there was some variety.
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on May 27, 2009, 11:29:22 PM
While I like Twilight mocking as much as the next guy, I am going to reiterate Let the Right One In... that movie was amazing.
Also all the DVD's prior to a reissue in the last couple of months had issues with audio AND subtitles.
I heard about that...all the character dialogue was replaced with the complete text of Twilight.
Another recent vampire flick that kicks Twilight's butt is Thirst (박쥐 in Korean)
It was doing well at Cannes, and it was directed by the same guy that did Old Boy and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance.
Thirst is more of a crude pisstake on the vampire romance movie as it involves a catholic priest that becomes a vampire. VERY recommended.
I shudder to mention that I am working on a vampire film currently and its not the Twilight sequel thankfully. lol
My younger sister is into twilight. I neither understand it nor care too, but I do feel sorry for her boyfriend.
I just realized Tomato's avatar occasionally blinks... that totally freaked me out... even more than Twilight fans...
I'm not able to think I'm too cool for anything because I watch Arthur on PBS and play Pokemon and am basically seven.
But Twilight the books really get mind-numbingly boring towards the middle. And I enjoy John Cusack-style romantic comedies. I wasn't able to finish past the first and the second started out to be better but then turned mind-numbingly boring. I really don't want to read about two people rubbing each other's necks and saying how much they love each other after a few weeks. It's like COME ON BUMP UGLIES OR DON'T QUIT BEING BORING!
My wife loves the whole deal though. She can talk about them a lot and I'll be like, "ugh, quit being so lame, let me tell you about what happened on The Misadventures of Flapjack."
Quote from: BWPS on May 28, 2009, 05:50:04 AM
My wife loves the whole deal though. She can talk about them a lot and I'll be like, "ugh, quit being so lame, let me tell you about what happened on The Misadventures of Flapjack."
BWPS has a wife? :shock2:
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on May 28, 2009, 05:17:06 AM
I just realized Tomato's avatar occasionally blinks... that totally freaked me out... even more than Twilight fans...
My job here is done *flies away*
Quote from: MJB on May 28, 2009, 06:41:30 AM
Quote from: BWPS on May 28, 2009, 05:50:04 AM
My wife loves the whole deal though. She can talk about them a lot and I'll be like, "ugh, quit being so lame, let me tell you about what happened on The Misadventures of Flapjack."
BWPS has a wife? :shock2:
...what. :huh:
I wasnt all that impressed with "Let the Right One In" it was o.k. - if you really want a suck fest watch that vampire movie with Stephen Seagal in it "Against the Dark"
The problem with Twilight for me was that I knew nothing of the novels and when I heard "Vampire Love Story" I expected more vampire and less love than I got.
Spoiler
So just to make sure I understood Oskar's vampire friend who I cant remember the name of is basically a castrated boy vampire right? Thats what I got from the thing.
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on May 28, 2009, 08:58:47 AM
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In the movie it is implied, if you go all wikipedia or imdb they confirm it from the novel.
The BEST Dracula movie out there:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103874/
And if you guys don't like it, then I'm breaking up with all of you!
Quote from: JeyNyce on May 28, 2009, 01:14:21 PM
The BEST Dracula movie out there:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103874/
And if you guys don't like it, then I'm breaking up with all of you!
Its not you, it's me....
Quote from: BWPS on May 28, 2009, 05:50:04 AM
I'm not able to think I'm too cool for anything because I watch Arthur on PBS and play Pokemon and am basically seven.
You're Sven? Well, that really screws up the FR family shrub diagram.
*scribble, scribble, scribble*
Quote from: JeyNyce on May 28, 2009, 01:14:21 PM
The BEST Dracula movie out there:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103874/
And if you guys don't like it, then I'm breaking up with all of you!
Oh yeah, that's the one where they tried to turn Dracula into a chick flick. It was part of the "tragic romantic figure" syndrome (aka: The Heathcliff Effect) that was going around at the time. They tried that with The Saint (the laughing Robin Hood of modern crime going all emo on us?), and you can see by the sequels to The Saint movie how well that worked. They even tried to do that with Batman, but the joke was on them: he was
already a tragic romantic figure.
About breaking up over movies: I post on a movie forum and there was a thread like "worst movie date experience you have had" and pretty much everyone there is into modo and gory movies so it was like "I brought a girl to a midnight screening of Cannibal Hollocaust and she never called me again".
Now has anyone seen Innocent Blood? It is a fun, violent and sexy vampire movie with cops and mobsters too.
isnt that the one with the french chick and elias koteas? it wasnt too bad.