I ran into this a couple of minutes ago:
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/is-kenneth-branagh-close-to-choosing-his-thor-6337
If he bulks up a bit I'm sold.
Hmm...he could pull it off, I think, but he would definitely have to bulk up...and get some sun. :)
Yeah, he could pull it off. Gerard Butler was not very buff before he played Leonidas and we all saw how he looked in 300. Put that guy through the same training as Butler and we have our Thor.
Yeah, maybe. Seems more like a Loki to me. Also, a little like the baddy in Hellboy II...
I'm sure he could bulk up, his father's a pretty big guy.
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According to this (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-chris-hemsworth-is-thor/), Thor has been cast. Not sure as to the authenticity, but what do you guys think?
Quote from: Previsionary on May 17, 2009, 06:12:13 AM
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According to this (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-chris-hemsworth-is-thor/), Thor has been cast. Not sure as to the authenticity, but what do you guys think?
Looks like we have Thor. Seeing the same info pop up everywhere... even thoiugh they mostly cite the same source. He's a naturally tall guy 6'4", with a decent build who I'm sure will be bulking up. Looks like a good call.
Well, he's certainly not picture perfect casting or anything, but I imagine that if he bulks up he could come somewhere close to looking the part. Does anyone know if he can actually act? The fact that Branagh is helming this movie makes me a bit more inclined to trust than I normally would be. I imagine that he has the wherewithal to chose the right actor for the flick.
In what little screen time he had in Star Trek, I thought he was a decent enough actor. I would bet if we all saw pictures of Gerald Butler and Hugh Jackman before they were chosen to play their parts, we would have thought they wouldn't work.
I was about to post this news itself, but yeah, seems a definite thing.
Seems Loki has been cast as well.
Quote from: http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/toldja-marvel-studios-about-to-announce-chris-hemsworth-as-thor/I've learned that Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige and Thor director Kenneth Branagh have cast their Loki, the nemesis to the lead in Thor set for release on May 20, 2011. He's Tom Hiddleston, unknown to American audiences but an award-winning British actor and Royal Academy Of Dramatic Arts (RADA) graduate. He played Winston Churchill's son in HBO's The Gathering Storm, but, more to the point, note that Hiddleston starred in Ivanov opposite Sir Kenneth on the London stage and also starred with him in the BBC miniseries Wallander. Marvel Studios won't confirm my news, but Hiddleston had been considered as a possible Thor.
Hmm, he seems like the right kind of fellow to play Loki. Cool that they are using Loki, too.
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 19, 2009, 04:39:59 AM
Hmm, he seems like the right kind of fellow to play Loki. Cool that they are using Loki, too.
There's going to be LOADS of brotherly angst as the main plot point. They'll start as rival/friends and then a girl will be the trigger for Loki turning against his brother. In the final battle Loki has a change of heart and gives his life to defeat the big threat who he had previously been in league with and/or who had killed their father. Seeing the sacrifice made by his brother who is once again his friend albeit for only the last 5 minutes of his life fills Thor with enough strength to defeat the big threat and save Asgard. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Uh, no, that doesn't sound much like Thor and Loki's relationship at all. The Vikings would have beheaded you for saying such things.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 19, 2009, 09:34:48 AM
Uh, no, that doesn't sound much like Thor and Loki's relationship at all. The Vikings would have beheaded you for saying such things.
Come, Cat, this is BWPS here, who still insists on pretending Eric Bana is Tom Cruise in disguise. ;)
Quote from: Gremlin on May 19, 2009, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 19, 2009, 09:34:48 AM
Uh, no, that doesn't sound much like Thor and Loki's relationship at all. The Vikings would have beheaded you for saying such things.
Come, Cat, this is BWPS here, who still insists on pretending Eric Bana is Tom Cruise in disguise. ;)
I KNEW it!!
*goes off to update his conspiracy web wall
That sounds terrible! Here's hoping that BWPS is just blowing smoke. :P
What? It's true! I have tons of sources! Stan Lee will be playing Odin for the brief time he is alive before whatever new/shoehorned in villain they decide to use kills him. Both Thor and Loki wear sweet black leather costumes without horns and wings and nonsense!
You forgot about Hallie Berry as love interest Lady Sif.
JOKING! I'm only joking! Put down the baseball bat.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on May 19, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
You forgot about Hallie Berry as love interest Lady Sif.
JOKING! I'm only joking! Put down the baseball bat.
*puts down the bat*
*still has the lead pipe*
"We're gonna' make a great Thor movie, and you know why? 'Cause we're from the street. First thing, we lose the cape and the hat with the silly wings. It's blue jeans and a leather jacket...or, or maybe just lots and lots of leather. You know what? He's the god of leather, yeah, I like that. And in the third act, he fights a giant mechanical spider!"
Quote from: BWPS on May 19, 2009, 05:28:16 PM
What? It's true! I have tons of sources! Stan Lee will be playing Odin for the brief time he is alive before whatever new/shoehorned in villain they decide to use kills him. Both Thor and Loki wear sweet black leather costumes without horns and wings and nonsense!
I heard Odin is Allan Moore in armor. Also after Thor people will no longer call slow motion Bullet time, it will be refered to as "Lightning Time" given the cool slow motion lightning duels. The final badguy is a Yggdracil, a CGI dragon made out of smog that ties together Ragnarock and global warming. Halle Berry plays the part of a respectable and beautiful actress who for some reason seems obsessed with becoming a superhero.
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 19, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
"We're gonna' make a great Thor movie, and you know why? 'Cause we're from the street. First thing, we lose the cape and the hat with the silly wings. It's blue jeans and a leather jacket...or, or maybe just lots and lots of leather. You know what? He's the god of leather, yeah, I like that. And in the third act, he fights a giant mechanical spider!"
Heh, Kevin Smith reference FTW
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 19, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
"We're gonna' make a great Thor movie, and you know why? 'Cause we're from the street. First thing, we lose the cape and the hat with the silly wings. It's blue jeans and a leather jacket...or, or maybe just lots and lots of leather. You know what? He's the god of leather, yeah, I like that. And in the third act, he fights a giant mechanical spider!"
Nice.
...I actually think Thor fighting a giant mechanical spider would be kind of awesome?
I don't really place much confidence in Nikki Finke's reporting. (Remember her starting rumors that Warner refused to do any more movies with female leads? And her implication that John Favreau was some sort of jerk for complaining when Marvel announced a release date requiring a tight schedule for Iron Man II without even talking to him about it?)
But, if Hemsworth is going to be Thor, I can't complain about the choice, although he seems a little... squinty (?) for the role. Though it was a small part, he was good as Kirk Sr. in Star Trek 2009.
BTW, as much as anything else in that piece, I was intrigue to hear about "...Joss Whedon's horror flick Cabin In The Woods..." Hmmm.
Quote from: Lugaru on May 19, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
I heard Odin is Allan Moore in armor. Also after Thor people will no longer call slow motion Bullet time, it will be refered to as "Lightning Time" given the cool slow motion lightning duels. The final badguy is a Yggdracil, a CGI dragon made out of smog that ties together Ragnarock and global warming. Halle Berry plays the part of a respectable and beautiful actress who for some reason seems obsessed with becoming a superhero.
#1: yeah right. #2: Yggdrasil isn't a dragon it's a Giant TREE. The Dragon is Niddhoggr. so Halle would be playing herself?
Quote from: marhawkman on May 19, 2009, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Lugaru on May 19, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
I heard Odin is Allan Moore in armor. Also after Thor people will no longer call slow motion Bullet time, it will be refered to as "Lightning Time" given the cool slow motion lightning duels. The final badguy is a Yggdracil, a CGI dragon made out of smog that ties together Ragnarock and global warming. Halle Berry plays the part of a respectable and beautiful actress who for some reason seems obsessed with becoming a superhero.
#1: yeah right. #2: Yggdrasil isn't a dragon it's a Giant TREE. The Dragon is Niddhoggr. so Halle would be playing herself?
"And we'll name the spider Jormungandr. A spider is as good as a snake, better even."
Quote from: marhawkman on May 19, 2009, 11:59:06 PM
quote]#1: yeah right. #2: Yggdrasil isn't a dragon it's a Giant TREE. The Dragon is Niddhoggr. so Halle would be playing herself?
I was going for the "we found a cool sounding word on wikipedia" approach which is used a lot in Hollywood and more so in anime, figured it would make my BS sound more authentic.
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 19, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
"We're gonna' make a great Thor movie, and you know why? 'Cause we're from the street. First thing, we lose the cape and the hat with the silly wings. It's blue jeans and a leather jacket...or, or maybe just lots and lots of leather. You know what? He's the god of leather, yeah, I like that. And in the third act, he fights a giant mechanical spider!"
Actually I would LOVE a Thunderstrike movie, but obviosly they need to make Thor first. I mean Thunderstrike would be like Steel: "we cant get superman but the rights on this high tech black superman are cheap... Ok, lets drop $42 bucks for the rights, eliminate the refernces to superman and make up the rest ourselves"
The casting for Loki is perfect!!!
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2588/thor-stills#info
A pic of Thor. What do we think, FRers?
Hmm....man, I am really conflicted. I don't like the new costume that much. You know me, I'm such a fan of classic versions of characters....but I'll be darned if he doesn't LOOK like that comic image brought to life! All he's missing is the helmet (and from the great attention to detail in this costume, I think we can safely assume that he has it, but is simply not wearing it), and that costume does look good in translation. I have to say, he looks like Thor! He even has a cape! I am even more excited about this movie now! :D
not to bad
the armour looks a tad plastic but over all a good look to him. i still think he's gonna show up in IM2 thats why this was released
Very nice, I love it. Really looking forward to more photos. Thor is so going to kick arse.
This movie is going to be beyond awesome. If it lives up to its potential, I imagine I'll have a new favorite superhero movie. After all, Thor is one of my absolute favorite Marvel characters, and his world (in that classic Lee/Kirby sense) is just so cool to me.
Yeah, maybe just a good muscle suit?
I'm with UE, it looks a little too plasticy. It's a good translation but I was hoping for something that looked more like real armor.
Quote from: Podmark on April 30, 2010, 07:09:11 PM
I'm with UE, it looks a little too plasticy. It's a good translation but I was hoping for something that looked more like real armor.
I'll third that opinion. The "scale mail" on the arms looks especially fake. In fact, I don't like it at all. Might just be a bad camera shot, though.
Quote from: Podmark on April 30, 2010, 07:09:11 PM
I'm with UE, it looks a little too plasticy. It's a good translation but I was hoping for something that looked more like real armor.
I'm going with the opinion that is a "distance shot" version of the costume and the picture was taken as a more candid on-the-set publicity teaser. My gut tells me that some CGI touch-ups will be added to create the metallic armor look using that version of the suit. I doubt the studio planned on having the actor wear the full metal "money shot" suit unless the shots required to be up close.
- CQ
More info from Marvel.com (http://marvel.com/news/moviestories.12299.first_look~colon~_chris_hemsworth_is_thor)
QuoteIn "Thor," Chris Hemsworth portrays the title character with Tom Hiddleston in the role of Thor?s brother Loki, and Natalie Portman as Jane Foster. Additionally, the studio has cast Academy Award? winning actor Anthony Hopkins as Odin, Renee Russo as Frigga, Ray Stevenson as Volstagg, Tadanobu Asano as Hogun, Josh Dallas as Fandral, Jaimie Alexander as Sif, Idris Elba as Heimdall, as well as Colm Feore, Kat Dennings and award-winning actor Stellan Skarsg?rd. The film is slated for release in theatres domestically on May 6, 2011 via Paramount Pictures which will also release the film on a worldwide basis.
The epic adventure "Thor" spans the Marvel Universe from present day Earth to the realm of Asgard. At the center of the story is The Mighty Thor, a powerful but arrogant warrior whose reckless actions reignite an ancient war. Thor is cast down to Earth and forced to live among humans as punishment. Once here, Thor learns what it takes to be a true hero when the most dangerous villain of his world sends the darkest forces of Asgard to invade Earth.
The screenplay for "Thor" was penned by Mark Protosevich as well as Ashley Miller & Zack Stentz, and Don Payne. Marvel Studios? President Kevin Feige will produce the film. Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel, and Marvel Studio?s Co-President, Louis D'Esposito, will executive produce.
In addition to "Thor," Marvel Studios is also scheduled to release a slate of films based on the Marvel characters including "Iron Man 2" on May 7, 2010, "The First Avenger: Captain America" on July 22, 2011, and "Marvel Studios' The Avengers" on May 4, 2012.
You know, I could give a [heck] about how the costume looks. I'm just glad they didn't go with that Ultimates version. But for my money, I'd imagine he'd only likely be in costome for less than half of the movie.
But I can also see them doing something akin to what they did with Liam Neeson's Zeus in Clash of the Titans. In fact, I expect it.
(http://photogallery.filmofilia.com/data/media/76/clash_of_the_titans_30.jpg)
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=17595
well, i know that Jaimie Alexander finished her role as Sif on the flick today. Heard that straight from the horse's mouth... her tweets actually. She mentioned wrapping her stuff on twitter today.
Yeah, that looks a little fake. Could be real though.
But, check out the Yahoo article.
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The long blond hair. The dark tunic with silver discs. The blood-red cape. Yep, that's Thor, all right.
With excitement at a fever pitch for next weekend's release of "Iron Man 2," buzz is already building for Marvel Studio's next adaptation of one of their classic comic books. To fuel the fire, we have the exclusive look at the first photo anywhere of star Chris Hemsworth in costume as the God of Thunder in next summer's "Thor."
See the First Look at Thor >>
26-year-old Australian actor Hemsworth first gained attention from movie audiences in his brief but memorable role as George Kirk -- Captain James T. Kirk's father -- in the opening scene of last year's "Star Trek." Many well-known actors were considered for the part; Daniel Craig said he was approached to play Thor but turned it down. After an exhaustive search, Hemsworth won the role over many other young hopefuls. He even beat out his younger brother, Liam, who was most recently seen opposite his real-life girlfriend Miley Cyrus in "The Last Song."
From what we can see of the costume designed by Oscar winner Alexandra Byrne, it looks to be inspired by the latest version of the character from the comic books drawn by French artist Olivier Coipel. While Thor's basic look hasn't changed much since he was originally created by Jack Kirby in 1962, the suit in the movie adopts the more modern look with an armored chest piece and textured sleeves. Slightly different is Hemsworth's beard, which has been used for Thor in the comics but only occasionally. The two most prominent elements of Thor's look that we don't see, however, are his signature winged helmet and his weapon, the mighty hammer Mjolnir.
"Thor" doesn't open for another year, but there are some hints about the movie within next weekend's "Iron Man 2." Like the first movie, where Samuel L. Jackson's cameo was hidden after the credits, there is a bonus scene in the sequel for those who stick around to the very end. Of course, Hemsworth will team up with Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans -- who was recently cast as Captain America in his own movie -- for "The Avengers," which is scheduled for release in 2012.
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The epic adventure "Thor" spans the Marvel Universe from present day Earth to the realm of Asgard. At the center of the story is The Mighty Thor, a powerful but arrogant warrior whose reckless actions reignite an ancient war. Thor is cast down to Earth and forced to live among humans as punishment. Once here, Thor learns what it takes to be a true hero when the most dangerous villain of his world sends the darkest forces of Asgard to invade Earth.
I've got to say, that sounds like a better plot than what early commentary led me to believe it would be like. It'll take more than that to get me interested in seeing a Thor movie, but it's a start.
Model Shot Of The Destroyer From Thor
(http://www.latinoreview.com/images/stories/articles/destroyer.jpg)
Thor costume design (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/06/03/the-look-of-thor/)
It's alright, but I find the bottom half really bland. Are they ditching the helmet?
Yeah, from the waist up it looks pretty good, but waist down... what happened? Did he spill mead on his knickers and have to borrow something from the X-Men?
(you know, I think this is the first time I ever used the word "knickers" in a post. er... yay?)
The bottom half should be more interesting, for sure, and he should have that bit of tunic that hangs down past his waist. Here's hoping the helmet is in, because if it isn't, that's just plain stupid.
I agree with the rest of you. Top half is ok...bottom half is yawn.
Now show me the helmet! I mean...they wouldn't be dumb enough to make a Thor movie in which Thor doesn't wear his winged helmet...would they?
Quote from: Podmark on June 03, 2010, 12:33:54 PM
Thor costume design (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/06/03/the-look-of-thor/)
It's alright, but I find the bottom half really bland. Are they ditching the helmet?
A little ultimate, a little Current (love the 'armor') but yeah, his pants are BOOORING. I can live without him wearing a helmet (which every superhero actor would prefer) but that would help make him a bit more mystic as opposed to the mostly tech look he has now.
My thoughts on the helmet: It doesn't need to be in every scene. I mean seriously, King Arthur doesn't wear his crown into battle, he doesn't wear a knight's helmet sitting on the throne.
Thor's helmet has always been more ceremonial than anything to me. However, if you want to treat it as a functional piece of equipment then it should function more like a knight's helmet than a crown. Therefore, the helmet might only be needed in a few scenes in the movie. A couple of fight scenes in the beginning or maybe heading into Odin's throne room where it is removed. I don't even see it being taken with him when he is banished to Midgard. And if it was used more like a crown then it'd be needed less than that.
As for the pants, Thor's always had fairly bland pants. However, I agree that the pants are bland enough that they almost look like part of the top.
Another awesome costume. I'm so excited about both this and CA. Can't say the pants are the best thing ever, but certainly the underwear-outside look isn't going to make it into a movie and plus they're just pants. Platemail or something would've been neat.
I just hope he talks all Shakespearey. I'd think that'd be the point of having the director but I'm afraid they may tone it down.
Just saw the bottom half of the costume and I agree it's pretty bland. It looks kinda weird now with the upper half looking like the current look of Thor and the lower half of him looking X-men like. Is it totally obvious to anyone else that the upper scale mail armor is just form fitting foam muscles? It doesn't look at all like real armor. Hopefully it will in the movie. Gotta say though, I am disappointed how this costume turned out. Should have used Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2's costume design.
Personally I was hoping they'd go less superhero and more medieval. Make it look like the real armor version of a Thor costume. I thought would have been cool and make sense.
The actual design looks a little too much like plastic, especially the cape. Could just the concept pic though. Anyway it's alright.
Yeah I love the idea of them using actual chain or scale mail, but they probably won't....
Go on the Thor set (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102352-go-on-the-thor-set)
THOR TRAILER (http://thefilmstage.com/2010/07/29/thor-trailer/)
I know this is on another thread(that I made), I just though it would be approriate in a thead in it's movie so it does not A)lost on page 5 or B) confused with the Avengers movie.
It looks visually interesting, but story seems a little flat. I think I will wait for it to come out on Netflicks.
Eh... All it really does it make me want to watch an Agent Coulson of Shield movie.
His scene at the end was the best part.
Awesome! I would be happy to watch a movie set entirely in Asgard, a-la the old "Tales of Asgard" stories of Lee and Kirby. The movie itself looks good. I'm a little wary of how well they'll handle the Asgardians coming to Earth thing, but I have hope!
Squeee!!!!
Quote from: Tawodi Osdi on July 30, 2010, 01:41:00 AM
It looks visually interesting, but story seems a little flat. I think I will wait for it to come out on Netflicks.
I had the opposite reaction. I was mostly disinterested in watching a Thor movie and probably would have waited for it to come out on Netflix if I watched it at all. After seeing the trailer, I'm thinking it sounds like a pretty good movie. It doesn't seem to exactly follow either the classic or the Ultimate origin of Thor, but from what I see it looks like a very good adaptation of the characters for film.
I also find myself wondering
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how Thor goes from being a captive of SHIELD interrogated by Coulson to a member of the Avengers.
My interest, for the first time ever, is now perked.
Blue Bard
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Samuel L Jackson would be the obvious answer.
Quote from: BlueBard on July 30, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
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how Thor goes from being a captive of SHIELD interrogated by Coulson to a member of the Avengers.
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I wager that the conversation between Thor and Coulson takes place some around the middle to 2/3 point of the movie. The same way that the bit at the end of Iron Man 2 takes place at what is probably the 1/3 point of the movie. If you were sitting the film up chronologically at least.
I admit that Thor has never been high on my list of favorite characters. I never disliked him, but I never really like him either; so, my initial disinterest is probably fueling my current disinterest.
Thor is easly in my top 3 favorite comic characters. My expectations were low when I heard the movie was announced and the early screen pics didn't help. The trailer looks good and has definitely got my hopes up. :cool:
As a Thor geek...I really hope he's got a "Nay! I say thee nay!" in there somewhere. :P
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Quote from: BlueBard on July 30, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
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how Thor goes from being a captive of SHIELD interrogated by Coulson to a member of the Avengers.
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I wager that the conversation between Thor and Coulson takes place some around the middle to 2/3 point of the movie. The same way that the bit at the end of Iron Man 2 takes place at what is probably the 1/3 point of the movie. If you were sitting the film up chronologically at least.
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My guess is that that dialogue (that is, if Thor ever decides to reply) takes place after Thor attempts to wield and wrest Mjolnir from the S.H.I.E.L.D.-secured impact site (presumably, the hammer falls to Midgard as well, as indicated by the final scenes of Iron Man 2) and fails. Of course, it appears that Thor will not be in a position to attempt to reclaim the hammer until he has won Jane's trust--and that won't happen without sufficient character and relationship development between the two. Consequently, I would agree with Mr. Hamrick's estimate.
I am excited that the writers (before final editing, mind you) seem willing to make more use of Agent Coulson. Clark Gregg has owned that role since
Iron Man and has featured in some wonderfully understated (as opposed to Robert Downey, Jr./Tony Stark-overstated) comic moments in the two Iron Man films. :thumbup:
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Phantom Bunburyist and Whirled Braker
Something I just noticed. Where is Baldur?
Well, I'm really pumped up. I'm really excited about this film. Huge Thor geek here though .
Idris Elba as Heimdall? dont see it at all. :thumbdown:
Quote from: herodad1 on November 28, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
Idris Elba as Heimdall? dont see it at all. :thumbdown:
Typical Hollywood casting...throwing common sense right out the window.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on November 28, 2010, 11:43:38 PM
Quote from: herodad1 on November 28, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
Idris Elba as Heimdall? dont see it at all. :thumbdown:
Typical Hollywood casting...throwing common sense right out the window.
Yep, I have liittle patience with that sort of "creative casting"
The odds are that no one (of seeming importance) in Hollywood will even bat an eye at this casting, thinking it will just help fill seats, and maybe keep certain groups from complaining. And yet, imagine the uproar and backlash if they did a movie version of The Tomb Of Dracula or Morbius, and they cast Jet Li in the role of Blade. I would have no real issues if they had cast him in the role of Malekith the Accursed. I might even buy it if they do a Ray Park with him.....using make-up (hopefully less so) and costume (preferably) to disguise what he actually looks like. But I give that slim odds of happening.
Why does being "politically correct" so often fly in the face of being factually or historically correct?
p.s.: Elba is also cast in an as-yet unnamed role for a Ghost Rider sequel.....with Nick Cage. :rolleyes:
Well that explains the black Heimdall in Thor the mighty avenger comic (or whatever its called).
Elba is a good, maybe great, actor.
Nobody else playing a norse god actually is a norse god, so today, I have few problems with it.
Another day it may have bugged me a little, but given that I like the actor, it worries me less.
i guess jet li being the action star he is would have made a better captain america that chris evans since chris is canadian? or maybe in the next shaft movie they could get bruce willis. he's really cool. i'm not a racial biggot by no means. ive got GOOD friends of all makes-n-models but, the next time hollywood makes a movie about say the zulu nation, it wont offend me if i dont see a couple white guys in the tribe. :lol:
Yeah, jeez - what is the Asgardian community going to say? This is so racially insensitive to them.
Is it really that big a deal, considering that they already cast a Japanese actor (Tadanobu Asano) to play Hogun? That irked me as much as this casting did and I'm surprised no one made mention of it. I think it's more that Elba and Asano are hot right now (which I actually think makes the casting decisions worse), rather than a racial sensitivity issue.
Quote from: herodad1 on November 28, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
Idris Elba as Heimdall? dont see it at all. :thumbdown:
I didn't much of the Thor comics, so this wouldn't bother me. Do you really think is going to bother fans of the comics? I think not.
Quote from: herodad1 on November 29, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
i guess jet li being the action star he is would have made a better captain america that chris evans since chris is canadian? or maybe in the next shaft movie they could get bruce willis. he's really cool. i'm not a racial biggot by no means. ive got GOOD friends of all makes-n-models but, the next time hollywood makes a movie about say the zulu nation, it wont offend me if i dont see a couple white guys in the tribe. :lol:
Totally agree with herodad on this one. It's hard to say these things and not come off sounding a bit racist these days though. The irony of this is that in the Edda, Heimdall is called the "white god".
It's hard not to sound racist when saying an actor shouldn't have a job in a movie because of his or her race because it's so racist. By definition. I know no one is trying to be racist, and just nitpicking about comic book accuracy.
"Certain groups" don't complain when their "members" don't appear in every movie. In fact some of these "groups" don't even have regular meetings at all, and certainly not where they boycott films which don't have any characters who are in their group. In fact some groups are so broad and far-reaching that they don't actually have representatives with the authority to complain on behalf of those groups. Some movies are still able to get many of "certain groups'" members to see the movies anyway and they become the highest grossing films of all time.
Didn't we have this conversation when Michael Clark Duncan was chosen to play Kingpin in the DareDevil movie?
Not that it really matters, since the Norse Gods are myth and fiction anyhow, but you have to admit the casting for Heimdall does seem odd.
Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury was also an odd choice, considering Fury's origins in WWII, but it works because he's cool. Maybe this will work out the same way.
Quote from: JeyNyce on November 30, 2010, 05:58:01 AM
Didn't we have this conversation when Michael Clark Duncan was chosen to play Kingpin in the DareDevil movie?
It actually quite different. Duncan as the Kinpin works fine for me because although he's a white guy in the comics, there is nothing in his background that says he has to be. Heimdal is a Norse god however so I consider that a little different. No one would ever consider casting the Black Panther as an Asian or white guy for example.
I do also think that characters that the normals know what race etc they are should probably reamin the same race just to not break the illusion. Everyone knows what Superman looks like.
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Quote from: JeyNyce on November 30, 2010, 05:58:01 AM
Didn't we have this conversation when Michael Clark Duncan was chosen to play Kingpin in the DareDevil movie?
It actually quite different. Duncan as the Kinpin works fine for me because although he's a white guy in the comics, there is nothing in his background that says he has to be. Heimdal is a Norse god however so I consider that a little different. No one would ever consider casting the Black Panther as an Asian or white guy for example.
I do also think that characters that the normals know what race etc they are should probably reamin the same race just to not break the illusion. Everyone knows what Superman looks like.
Good point. And while we've come a long way in "color blind" casting (loved Denzel Washington in Much Ado About Nothing), but until we can cast "Once Upon a Time in China" or "Roots" regardless of ethnicity we haven't truly hit it.
the kingpin and nick fury castings didnt faze me that much. to me it could easily work with those characters but a norse god? that is different. hope my opinion on this hasnt stirred a big stink! :unsure:
Well Sam Jackson was cast as Fury because of the Ultimates comics which used his exact likeness for their version of the character. So that was straight out of the comics, just not the original ones.
Quote from: Podmark on November 30, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Well Sam Jackson was cast as Fury because of the Ultimates comics which used his exact likeness for their version of the character. So that was straight out of the comics, just not the original ones.
I know, but they did it in Ultimates because he looked frickin cool as a black man with an eyepatch.
Can a black man look cool in an Asgardian helmet? The answer is, nobody looks cool in an Asgardian helmet. So that's a great ethnic equalizer right there. ;)
Fact is, I might consider it odd if I really thought about it but I'm really not going to see Thor the movie and start analyzing it that deeply. Unless the movie calls attention to it in some way, I will probably do what the mainstream audience will do... let it pass right on by without affecting my opinion of the movie in the least.
Quote from: steamteck on November 30, 2010, 12:34:02 PM
No one would ever consider casting the Black Panther as an Asian or white guy for example.
I do also think that characters that the normals know what race etc they are should probably reamin the same race just to not break the illusion. Everyone knows what Superman looks like.
Agreed.
Can you imagine the uproar if they ever did cast the Black Panther as a white guy?
I'd feel the same way about an attempt to 'africanize' Superman... changing decades of continuity just to pander to one ethic group would be incredibly racist and inappropriate. I might feel the same way about Heimdall if I were of Scandinavian descent... but I'm not.
Ehh, this kind of thing bothers me, not because of issues of race, but just because it doesn't make sense to me. Movies are visual mediums, and when I see something that doesn't make sense, it annoys me, pulls me out of the story. The Norse gods were the deities of a particular culture and people group, so they should look like it. Having a black Asgardian just doesn't fit. Will it ruin the movie for me? Of course not, but it does mildly annoy me in the interim. Having white Wakandans would also annoy me. It just doesn't make sense. It's not a big deal, but that doesn't mean that people's complaints about it are somehow inappropriate or racist.
Quote from: BWPS on November 30, 2010, 05:50:18 AM
It's hard not to sound racist when saying an actor shouldn't have a job in a movie because of his or her race because it's so racist. By definition. I know no one is trying to be racist, and just nitpicking about comic book accuracy.
"Certain groups" don't complain when their "members" don't appear in every movie. In fact some of these "groups" don't even have regular meetings at all, and certainly not where they boycott films which don't have any characters who are in their group. In fact some groups are so broad and far-reaching that they don't actually have representatives with the authority to complain on behalf of those groups. Some movies are still able to get many of "certain groups'" members to see the movies anyway and they become the highest grossing films of all time.
Actually,
by definition if you say an actor shouldn't have a job in a movie because of his or her race, it's
NOT racist. No one is saying Idris Elba isn't a good actor becuase he's black. The argument is that the source material is of a specific characteristic. Personally, as a Black man myself(and avid fan of Elba), I have a problem with the cast and at the same time okay with it. Like many of you, I don't like casting ethnic actors just for diversity reasons. That's
really not doing anyone any favors. However, when you're casting decisions make sense and race isn't an essential part of the character(ie Kingpin), I don't have a problem with it. But from what I can tell, they're not simply casting for the sake of diversity. From what I can tell, they're taking a entirely different spin on Asgard. I could be wrong but didn't they have an Asian in there too? Either way, I'm sure it will be fine. It's not like the movie is call "Heimdall and Thor". It's called "Thor". I'm confident it won't break immersion.
I know this is a bit of a tangent, but hasn't the trend not been to make a character black, but to make a black version as a separate character(John Stewart Isiah/Eligah Bradley, Icon, Static, etc). I'm not sure if anyone else can understand it, but there's something about having "one of your own" to identify with. Like saying I don't identify with the wise-cracking white teenager growing up in the suburbs of New York(Spiderman). I can more identify with the wise-cracking black teenager growing up in the projects(Static). Or like saying I don't identify with the super-powered alien who grew up on a farm in Kansas. I'd much rather identify with the super-powered alien who grew up as a slave.
It's kinda why Stan Lee made a Spiderman and a Fantastic Four and the X-Men. He wanted to make sure he can have someone that all of his readers can identify with.
I can see where you're comimg from. However for myself, I guess I'm odd that I've always iidentified more with the guy I'd like to be than the guy with the similar background. As a result I've always identified more with Superman, Doc Savage, Captain America and Thor than say, Spider-man.
I also find very hard to identify with many modern comics character whose principles and morals seem vastly inferior to my own. Flawed heroes are Ok but ....
Thor One-Sheet movie poster is up: http://marvel.com/news/story/14785/behold_new_thor_movie_poster
Trailer will be there tomorrow and in select movie theaters this weekend.
Here ya go: trailer (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/12/thor-trailer-is-live)
K, I'm sold. Marvel needs to come out with this now.
According to my "inside source", th Fx look good (i should hope so, that's his job...), there are some spectacular action scene, the "humor" is bordeline not-funnny at at all (but he says there's no music, so maybe it will help) and an relatively large amount of tilted plan (he called that the battlefield earth effect, when you tilt the camera sideway with no justification at all)
All in all it seems that the movie will be relatively fast-paced (but keep in mind that as a visual artist, he probably didn't see many talk scene) and quite enjoyable as far as an action movie go. Not being a thor fan, he however has no idea if the characteristion is good, but he criticized the performance of the secondary cast, mainly the asgardians, who sounds/look cheesy (since that's kinda the point, i'm not surprised...but for the non-thor fan i understand it can be puzzling); and after the last projection, he seems to think the movie is as good as Hulk (the edward norton one) but clearly inferior to both Iron man 1 & 2.
I should note he's an action movie fan (he liked transformer, and he didn't knew about the toys or the cartoon either, so no nostalgia excuse there) so he may be overly enthousiastic due to the fight scenes.
But yeah, it seems like it will be worth watching.
NB:i'd rather not say his name or the name of the compagny where he works, just in case "they" google for leak
Quoteand an relatively large amount of tilted plan (he called that the battlefield earth effect, when you tilt the camera sideway with no justification at all)
The camera move is called a "Dutch Tilt". And yes it was way overused in Battlefield Earth to the point that if you made a drinking game of it, you'd get alcohol poisoning.
Ohh, I really, REALLY want this movie to be good. The trailer looks great, and I'm really hopeful. :)
Hmm, I saw this trailer awhile ago. Didn't everyone else?
Perhaps, but I feel like this one is longer.
Yeah, I think there were some added scenes in this version, like the Destroyer rampaging, and more hammer-throwing. Looks pretty cool!
:banghead: My bad. I thought this was the same trailer I saw before and stopped watching when Thor was beating up the S.H.I.E.L.D agents. After Benton said it was longer, I watched it all and drooled.
really liked watching him throw his hammer and clobberin' that monster.
I just saw the trailer and I liked it! I'm not super excited about the movie, but at least the trailer was good. I like the sound the hammer makes when it hits stuff.
Hey, dutch angles are awesome. Did you know each different villain had their own angle degree on the '60s Batman show? It just makes a scene more visually arresting.
As to the Heimdall thing thing, it's weird and they keep showing random shots of him, but I don't remember Heimdall ever doing anything but stand on that danged rainbow bridge. In fact I remember him waxing on about how he COULDN'T join in battles because he had to stand on that bridge. Yet any time somebody stormed that bridge he got taken out.
Of course in real Norse legend he and Loki kill each other in the end. Hmmm... I wonder if they are going to set up for that?
And as to Hogun being asian... I actually always thought he looked asian and always wondered why.
This trailer looks swell. I love Thor. Destroyer looks fantastic. Hopefully they have a lot more Asgard stuff than Midguard stuff, but I doubt it. It does make me seriously pumped for the Avengers movie though.
Quote from: http://marvel.com/news/story/14846/chris_hemsworth_wielding_thors_hammerFor Hemsworth, the challenge of playing such an iconic, established hero on the big screen proved no more difficult than any other role he's undertaken.
"There's a lot of pressure with something that existed for so many years before you were involved and already has a fan base, but you don't let that affect the way you approach the film," remarks the actor. "I approached it by doing it as well as I can. Whether it's a small film, or something like this, it's very exciting and daunting."
As fans gleaned from the trailer, Jane Foster—played by Natalie Portman—will play a large role in Thor's cinematic odyssey, something Hemsworth teased further.
"It's a big breaking point in Thor's journey," he promises. "He learns some humility. He starts out as a brash, cocky, young warrior and she certainly influences him in a different direction and gives him a different angle to look at life from."
Thor's hubris and heroism define two key aspects of his character, aspects that reflect "an ongoing battle [within Thor], taming the berserk warrior that is in him," according to Hemsworth.
Chris Hemsworth grips Mjolnir in "Thor"
"Certainly, that's a big part of this film. He has to be that warrior and he still has to have those elements. That's what makes him Thor. But also, you don't want to watch a guy for too long on screen who's just a jerk all the time. You get moments of it, where it's kind of cool and bad, but then it just gets old. You've got to find that balance, and at the right times, sneak a bit of it back in."
Working with director Kenneth Branagh gave Hemsworth a particular insight into Thor's character, as the filmmaker encouraged the star to gain inspiration wherever he could.
"It's been brilliant," beams Hemsworth. "It's the most character development, discussions on scenes and back-story that I've ever had. He always had the attitude that you should read books--read this, look at all these influences, talk for hours. Maybe it means nothing or maybe it gives us one moment in the film, and it's worth it. That's part of the fun for me, all that research and speaking to as many people as I can and soaking up all that stuff."
More at link.
Thanks for the post Prem., that was interesting. I like that they (both Branagh and Hemsworth) seemed to put a lot of thought into who Thor is and why he's doing what he's doing. That's just good storytelling. I hope it pays off. Hemsworth's description of Thor seems pretty good. I know that my friend Hank, who is a huge Thor fan, would appreciate it. He always talks about how overconfidence and arrogance are Thor's weaknesses.
Quote from: UnkoMan on December 14, 2010, 04:17:07 PMAnd as to Hogun being asian... I actually always thought he looked asian and always wondered why.
The vikings were slave traders(along with looting and pillaging) and sometimes traded with the monguls.
New Thor photo (in costume):
(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/8/d0/4d30ed0a42b96/detail.jpg)
http://marvel.com/news/story/15011/new_thor_movie_photo
I don't know about that pic...something is missing... :D :P
I wonder if they'll make decent replicas of that hammer to buy?
If you mean the helmet, he does wear it, just not all the time it seems.
Ya I know...just goofing around. :cool:
I dunno.....he looks more like he belongs in Metallica, not Asgard.
Superbowl spot: http://marvel.com/news/story/15139/watch_the_thor_super_bowl_spot
I saw this as well as the new Cap spot and I can't wait to see them!!
I have a problem with all of these 3-D movies is that I where prescription glasses. I've seen those 3-D shades like look like they'd comfortable enough, but I'm afraid I'd be stuck with those old card board shades that will actually fit over my glasses.
Hmm, pretty much the same stuff we've seen already, but it looks good. :)
Quote from: Tawodi Osdi on February 07, 2011, 06:26:32 AM
I have a problem with all of these 3-D movies is that I where prescription glasses. I've seen those 3-D shades like look like they'd comfortable enough, but I'm afraid I'd be stuck with those old card board shades that will actually fit over my glasses.
I have a different problem- the 3D glasses fit easily over my glasses, but, because I'm slightly cross-eyed, they don't actually work for me. Current 3D movies, while I'm wearing the glasses, just look a little blurred and give me a headache (of course, it's worse without the glasses).
I've got big ole' horn-rims and the current 3D glasses fit over mine. They work fairly well though...
Of course the majority of 3D movies these days aren't actually shot in 3D, so it looks totally fake, and the current polarized 3D is just like slapping a neutral density filter over your face, so everything is darker and the colours far less vivid, so all in all I feel pretty lacklustre about the 3D experience in general. Needless to say (but I will), I won't be seeing this or Cap in 3D.
Although I still did want to see Tron in 3D. Should have got around to that.
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on January 16, 2011, 05:26:28 AM
I dunno.....he looks more like he belongs in Metallica, not Asgard.
:lol: I was thinking he looks like Hetfield too.
Quote from: UnkoMan on February 07, 2011, 11:08:35 PM
I've got big ole' horn-rims and the current 3D glasses fit over mine. They work fairly well though...
Of course the majority of 3D movies these days aren't actually shot in 3D, so it looks totally fake, and the current polarized 3D is just like slapping a neutral density filter over your face, so everything is darker and the colours far less vivid, so all in all I feel pretty lacklustre about the 3D experience in general. Needless to say (but I will), I won't be seeing this or Cap in 3D.
Although I still did want to see Tron in 3D. Should have got around to that.
Tron is one of two 3D movies I've seen. The other being Meet the Robinsons when the trend was new. I hate 3D movies and hope I don't forget that again. The 3D added murky colors and a weird crosseyed headache feeling to an otherwise awesome experience. And I have perfect (some may say god-like) vision. I don't like the 3D, I don't want it, it's not immersive, it's like giving my eyeballs a chore when I just want to relax.
I'll beseeing this, cap, and gl the same way I saw green hornet. IMAX 3D. Disposable income FTW
Quote from: BWPS on February 08, 2011, 04:49:35 AM
Tron is one of two 3D movies I've seen. The other being Meet the Robinsons when the trend was new. I hate 3D movies and hope I don't forget that again. The 3D added murky colors and a weird crosseyed headache feeling to an otherwise awesome experience. And I have perfect (some may say god-like) vision. I don't like the 3D, I don't want it, it's not immersive, it's like giving my eyeballs a chore when I just want to relax.
I'm with you 100% on this one!
I watched this movie again yesterday on Netflix and something caught my attention. Not sure why I never noticed it before, but it looked to me that Thor's power comes from technology, his armor and hammer. When Odin stripped him of his power he tore off the metallic disks from his armor, tore off his cape, taking away his title and reclaimed the hammer before casting him to Earth. While on Earth, stripped of his tech, he was like Captain America, a man who is at the peak of physical perfection. The movie explains that the Asgardians are not magical beings but aliens that early humanity worshiped as gods, an idea which I really love and believe could have a basis in reality.
I thought about that scene in the Avengers, when Hulk couldn't lift the hammer and thought, what if the tech in the hammer uses a planet's magnetic field to keep itself anchored and unable to lift? Thor can lift it because of the tech in his armor or perhaps even in his blood via nanotechnology. The point is all the power is technology that humans doesn't yet understand, and I like that explanation far more than simply saying it's magic. This works in cinema very well. In the comics magic works fine but not in the movies.
I believe he told Jane that it is science that we do not yet understand.
Actually what Thor said is that what humans consider technology and magic, his people consider to be both exactly the same thing.
Which adds up to something similar. The Asgardians do use extremely advanced tech which actually is exactly what "magic" actually is in the first place.
Having Mjolnir react to the EMF of the Earth does have interesting implications, especially if the storm controlling capacity of Mjolnir is considered a by-product of controlled electro-magnetic forces. Perhaps, the Asgardians use advanced Tesla related technology. Tesla had some theories that were too wild even for science fiction.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 13, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
I thought about that scene in the Avengers, when Hulk couldn't lift the hammer and thought, what if the tech in the hammer uses a planet's magnetic field to keep itself anchored and unable to lift? Thor can lift it because of the tech in his armor or perhaps even in his blood via nanotechnology. The point is all the power is technology that humans doesn't yet understand, and I like that explanation far more than simply saying it's magic. This works in cinema very well. In the comics magic works fine but not in the movies.
I thought about the Hulk lifting the Hammer too and it seemed to contradict an old skool fight in which Jade Jaws was able to pick up the hammer, because (at that time) he was pure of heart. Grey hulk couldn't pick it up but Green was able to...something like that. I wish i had me comics so I could confirm it.
In actual Thor news, Josh Dallas recently announced that, due to his commitment to Once Upon a Time, he will not be reprising his role as Fandrel in Thor 2.
Supposedly he's being replaced with Zachary Levi (Chuck, Tangled), who was supposedly to be their first choice for Fandrel.
That's a real, real shame, as Fandral was perhaps the most perfectly cast of all of them. He looked and carried himself EXACTLY like Fandral. It's not going to ruin the movie or anything, but it is a little saddening.