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Title: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on June 29, 2016, 02:50:25 PM
Figured it deserves a topic.
#6 was incredibly self-referential,even for Deadpool.Its starts with him declaring its a fill-in issues,then has him and Spider-man directing a Deadpool movie.Yes,that one.And commenting on superhero movies in general.
Spoiler
And busting into sets of Walking dead and Jurassic World.Daredevil and Captain America showing up in their TV/movie looks(Hail Hydra included). Actually,those are actors,but ok.Wolverine and Storm noticing that its like the X-men don't exist.And finally the duo watching Nighthawk vs Hyperion: Yawn of Boredom(You wont believe their mothers have the same name).
-"Norman Osborn,the guy who knocked up your girlfriend and then killed her?"
-"Its complicated"
And that's not nearly all of it.  :)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on June 30, 2016, 05:17:43 PM
I wasn't sure if I was going to pick this issue up, but I did (it was a light week for new comics for me, and I'd forgotten until the last minute that it was a fill-in), and I enjoyed it. I'm not sure if I'm going to pick up the next one; I think I'm going to have a take a closer look at the preview for it before it comes out.

The one gag I thought was a bit off was the reference to a CGI monster who would be a villain for Deadpool to fight in the movie. While it's a perfectly apt reference to superhero movies in general, it's not really applicable to the Deadpool movie since Colossus isn't a villain.

In any case, I've been happy with Spider-Man/Deadpool. It's probably one of my favorite books I pick up right now, and it's definitely up there in terms of Marvel books.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on June 30, 2016, 05:35:10 PM
I just thought the CGI monster was a general comment on the superhero movies.
Next,Duggan and another "lost issue" of the 60's.Which he did once.And Joe Kelly did way back in the first series.When Blind Al pretended to be Aunt May,remember that?
So IDK,if its a slow week...
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on June 30, 2016, 09:06:28 PM
Well, I know Duggan did more than one "lost issue" but I don't know how many were in the 60s. I definitely read one set in the 70s "The Groovy Deadpool" And there was one where Deadpool ran afoul of Peter Parker, Flash Thompson and Iron Man, that might have been 60s? Can't remember. I do remember the Joe Kelly flashback issue as well. My favorite part was where Harry Osborn was saying stuff like "cool cat" and "ya dig" and Deadpool is just like "Are you having a stroke?"  :lol: That one gets a lot of use from me.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 01, 2016, 10:02:52 AM
I was thinking about the Wakandan Vacation issue.IIRC thats the name.Where Cable leaves Deadpool stranded in 60's Wakanda,and Watcher shows up and Deadpool has to assemble some puzzle.It was confusing.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on July 15, 2016, 05:50:43 AM
Oh yeah, I did read that one too. It was a odd one.

Anyway, the preview's out for the new one:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/spider-man-deadpool-7-marvel-comics-2016

I was very much on the fence about this one since I kinda think of it more as an extension of Duggan's run than the actual Joe Kelly series, but as long as the fill-ins throw in references and jokes about the main run, that helps sell it for me. So it's Donald Trump parody...I can dig that. But what really cracks me up is when Nixon shows up....  :lol:  I fully admit my fondness for Nixon parodies is fueled by the Futurama version.

Deadpool: Don't worry Tricky D*ck, you'll learn to love my side of the law.  :thumbup:

Apparently Mysterio's in it? That's appropriate considering he pops up in the main run. Yaknow I totally forgot the fake inventory issues by Duggan always fed into the present day stories. So yeah, definitely gonna have to pick this one up.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 15, 2016, 10:00:45 AM
Next week is a bit crowded(Justice League,Red Team,Black Hammer,ROM,Hellblazer Rebirth) so I doubt Im gonna get around to #7.Or at least not right away.
Deadpool and Mercs for Money also (re)starts the same day.Im not that crazy about Bunn's Deadpool(like I said before),but the first miniseries was okay,so I might continue this.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on July 15, 2016, 12:02:14 PM
Speaking of Mercs for Money, we got to see Negasonic Teenage Warhead on the new cover, and unsurprisingly, she looks like her movie counterpart rather than her design from the comics. I'm curious if she will be a separate character from the original, Ellie Phimister.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 15, 2016, 01:29:03 PM
(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/1468266789909-600x832.jpg)
Looks like only Massacre is staying,and we have Gorilla Man and Domino.Im not sure who the others are.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: daglob on July 15, 2016, 03:14:44 PM
Looks like Negasonic and Machine Man.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 15, 2016, 03:55:15 PM
Yes,Machine Man,thank you.Forgot he even existed. :)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: spydermann93 on July 15, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
Hitmonkey?
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: kkhohoho on July 16, 2016, 03:30:44 PM
Quote from: Spade on July 15, 2016, 03:55:15 PM
Yes,Machine Man,thank you.Forgot he even existed. :)

Shame. Machine Man thinks you are a most disgraceful fleshy one for forgetting his awesomeness. ;)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 16, 2016, 03:42:14 PM
Well...his apperence in Thunderbolts was a long time ago,and he looked differently.And thats pretty much the only apperance of him I remember.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: daglob on July 16, 2016, 05:15:40 PM
Yeah, well, I've got the Kirby version around here someplace; let's not discuss how long ago that was...
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 16, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: daglob on July 16, 2016, 05:15:40 PM
Yeah, well, I've got the Kirby version around here someplace; let's not discuss how long ago that was...

From 2001: Space Odyssey right?Marvel had a weird relation to their licensed comics.  :)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: kkhohoho on July 16, 2016, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: Spade on July 16, 2016, 03:42:14 PM
Well...his apperence in Thunderbolts was a long time ago,and he looked differently.And thats pretty much the only apperance of him I remember.

So... you've never read Nextwave, is what you're telling me?
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Talavar on July 16, 2016, 09:29:11 PM
Quote from: kkhohoho on July 16, 2016, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: Spade on July 16, 2016, 03:42:14 PM
Well...his apperence in Thunderbolts was a long time ago,and he looked differently.And thats pretty much the only apperance of him I remember.

So... you've never read Nextwave, is what you're telling me?

Ah, Nextwave was the best.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 17, 2016, 05:17:08 AM
Yeah,kinda missed Nextwave.No real reason,I just wasnt reading it at the time.And later I never got around to reading it.Stuff happens.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Deaths Jester on July 21, 2016, 08:08:37 PM
Why is Ken Hale part of this group? He's a card carrying member of Atlas and doesn't need to merc to make money...
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on July 22, 2016, 12:29:18 AM
I've never read Nextwave either.

Didn't get down to the comic book store this week (except for Ant-Man, but that was because my main comic book store didn't get it, so I went to a different one to get while my main store reserved the other books for me). I'm either going to go Friday evening (since the shop's open longer that day) or next week. So it'll be a bit before I can read SM/DP and give my thoughts.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Talavar on July 22, 2016, 02:35:41 AM
Nextwave related hijacking: I was reading an article online yesterday, and apparently Nextwave is actually canon now?  Monica Rambeau went back to her Nextwave clothes after alluding to the events of the series, apparently, and The Captain showed up in Nova!  That's awesome, after years of dancing around the issue.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on July 22, 2016, 04:17:31 AM
Deadpool and mercs #1 introduces movie-like NTW for the first time.It is Ellie.I thought she already existed(and died),but that was at least 5-6 reboots ago anyway.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 01, 2016, 05:21:49 AM
Im guessing Patient Zero could be related to Clone Conspiracy?Spidercide?(Peter Parker was the Patient Zero in Marvel Universe vs The Punisher,might be something there)
Speaking of which: "Jackal has beaten death"?No way,in Marvel universe?Good for him.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 02, 2016, 11:06:57 AM
Weird about Negasonic. I'm meaning to look that up at some point.

Re: Patient Zero. Not sure. To quote Quint from Resident Evil: Revelations: "I don't wanna rush to conclusions. I need more intel".

Just noticed I've yet to comment on latest issue, despite reading it last week. It was fun. A bit of a letdown I think; I might have liked the previous issue better. Nixon was still the highlight in my opinion. Though the shots at Trump near the end were glorious.

[EDIT] Though one thing I found odd is that the issue claimed to be the first meeting of Spidey and DP, yet when Spidey met him, he still, like other appearances such as Cable and Deadpool and Way's Deadpool, had already heard of him and had made up his mind that he didn't like him. So if the comic didn't start out by saying it was their first meeting you could ignored that status entirely. I will say one thing I consistently enjoy about Duggan's flashback issues is that DP's fourth-wall breaking extends to marvel events that haden't happened yet, and the other characters act just as confused as when he breaks the fourth wall in general.

I also liked the way the artist emulated the 60's look and had DP look like he might have if he first appeared in the 60's. The Tommy Gun was a nice touch though I thought that was more 40s-50s.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 02, 2016, 04:01:44 PM
Next issue is a return to the regular story.  :)
Btw,I just saw that Spiderman/Deadpool #1 will be going into 7th printing.I think they beat Marvels Star Wars there.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 03, 2016, 05:57:44 AM
I saw that every issue except #8 is getting a new printing next week along with the release of #8.

I looked up Negasonic on the Marvel Wiki.  She has different hair in Mercs for Money. Wasn't expecting that.
(http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Ellie_Phimister_(Earth-616)?_the_Mercs_for_Money_Vol_2_1_001.jpg=undefined)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 10, 2016, 02:14:29 PM
I gotta say #7 made B.L.A.I.R 1 look deep and nuanced. :rolleyes:
It only interesting if you make fun of both sides,otherwise it comes off a bit arse-kissing.Then again,they didnt have e-mail in the 60's,so that would be hard to work in.

Im not entirely sure what went down in #8.Patient Zero got even more mysterious.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 10, 2016, 06:23:13 PM
Had to look up what B.L.A.I.R. 1 was. A 2000 AD satire of Tony Blair?

You're not wrong. Even Stephen Colbert makes fun of Hilary and Bernie.

I enjoyed 8, but after the hype-filled solicit, I gotta say, I'm kinda let down. I'm going to assume the solicit was talking about the whole arc and not just this issue?

Spoiler
"Finally, Spider-Man and Deadpool are face to face with the person who has caused all the events of this series! WHO IS PATIENT ZERO?!

EVERY issue of this book has sold out and come back with second printings (and #1 is on its FIFTH), so don't sleep on this one, TRUE BELIEVERS!!! Talk to your retailer so you aren't spoiled while you wait for a second print!"


Not only did we not find out who Tobi Patient Zero is (though they teased it so much It had me frustratingly eager to find out every time this weirdo was onscreen) but I'm not even sure what it is we were supposed to avoid getting spoiled. The big final splash page reveal waaaas.... NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7mHxdHlRY) Apparently it's 6 months ago and I'm watching the S3 mid-season finale of S.H.I.E.L.D. again.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about Spidey and DP's characterization here. Spidey's rocking a new costume for apparently no other reason then to sell a new skin in Marvel Heroes and so Podmark has another skin to work on. While we get the whole is-he-a-nice-guy-or-what bit with Deadpool that feels like it's trying to have its cake and eat it too.

I'll say this though: the art was great. McGuiness' action scenes were dynamic and exciting (though his storytelling is....debatable) but I was especially amused by the apparent manga/anime influence on the "Man-Strosities" designs (love that name). One looks like a Hollow from Bleach, while another is apparently the 0-Tails from Naruto Shippuden. Then again, Patient Zero is apparently Tobi....

[edit] So, if I'd seen the September solicits already, I've have known that the new female villain is called (I kid you not) Itsy-Bitsy. And people complained about "Kid Arachnid." They really are scraping the bottom of the barrel for character names these days, haven't they? The idea for the character's kinda clever though, in a meta sort of way (which is appropriate for a Deadpool book).

Also I see the solicit text includes the spoiler warning for more than one  issue, so I guess I was right and it's more about this arc than any one issue. Ok then.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 11, 2016, 05:57:47 AM
Yeah,they went for M.A.C.H 1 but with Blair.Its pretty much considered the worst strip that ever ran in 2000ad.Or second worst,depending who you ask(Space Girls are the other one,in case you are wondering).In their defense,they ussualy do a bit better with that sort of thing.For example,Judge Dredd,and even most stuff that ran in Crisis.Thou Crisis was a mixed bag itself and too long of a story.
Anyway,I know we were meant to think we saw this guy before,but its a bit hard to work in somebody with a grudge against Deadpool and Spiderman,Or I just cant remember anyone.So I would guess its somebody compleatly new.
I noticed the Hollow too.Tobi,heh...
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 11, 2016, 10:06:54 AM
To paraphrase Holtz from Angel, I think you'll find your 2000 AD references are completely lost on me. I quite liked that Karl Urban Dredd movie though.

Yeah, Zero really has me intrigued. I wanna know if anyone online has any idea who this dude is supposed to be. My knowledge of Deadpool and Spider-Man is as extensive as the next guy (though I'm not quite as versed in the Duggan run, to be fair), and I've no front-flipping clue who this guy is. I'm not entirely convinced he's an established character, but that would be the biggest copout since the decoy Green Goblin from the 90's. (look it up, it was really stupid. It was the like the Hobgoblin reveal, only more botched).

So funny story, I actually read all of Zero's dialogue with the voice of the mad scientist from the new Doom video game (who voice has an uncanny similarity to Lance Henrickson) without even realizing it, until I realized halfway through the book that he's basically Tobi and switched to the "Madara Uchiha" voice from the English dub of Naruto, and in both cases it totally worked, despite the sometimes flippant dialogue in the comic. The fact that Zero and Tobi are basically huge trolls regarding their true identity helps.

[Edit 1] Also, if there's one thing I've learned posting on FR recently, it's I make a LOT of typos.

[Edit 2] My joke answer would be Flash Thompson or Tony Stark based on Duggan's flashback issues, but I don't think anyone seriously thinks that. If this book was written by Duggan, it absolutely would be someone from the Spider-Man/Deadpool flashback issues. I don't think that's the case though. Other than the recap page, Kelly seems to be firmly treating the last two issues as "The Filler Saga" (heh, another Shonen Anime parallel)

Also going to take the opportunity to once again say I don't get what everyone else likes about Anna Maria Macaroni. Apparently I'm Moviebob and she's the Fox version of Quicksilver (whom I'm a huge fan of), but I don't find anything likable or interesting about this character regardless of whether it's Slott or Kelly writing her. All she does is lob casual putdowns in Peter's direction like a fair-weather friend (because we need more reminders that Peter's a loser right? LOL) and I'm supposed to regard her as both a worthy love interest and the second coming of Tyrion Lannister? Cool story bro.

I'm also iffy on the current characterization of Spidey in this book. I know there's a perfectly reasonable justification for him to be more angry/angsty than usual and it's kinda reminiscent of Black Suit Spidey, but he flits back and forth between typical Parker dorkiness, dark humor that seems to be trying to keep pace with Wade, and "The Spider" (another thing from 90s Spidey people hated). It's so tone deaf and inconsistent it almost makes me suspect Dan Slott was ghost writing this one (nope, can't be that. no Doc Ock in sight. That was issue #5)

If it sounds like I'm being more negative on the issue than I should be, it's because I am. Like I've said before, I think this might actually be my favorite Marvel book right now, and we had to wait 2 issues for more of the actual story, so I think I'm harsh on it as a result. Like I said, it was fun, the monster designs were cool, the story is intriguing and the art is great. It's just the writing is kinda a mixed bag. It's the Age of Ultron of comics (the movie, not the comic. The comic was typical Bendis meh)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 11, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
Suggested for Mature Readers blog has covered most of the things I mentioned here,so I suggest checking that out,if you get the time.They do a great job at examining the British comic scene thru the ages.At least check out their article on Zenith.
Anyhow,I should really stop derailing everything.
I checked Marvel wiki and #1 had 7 printings at this point,just like Star Wars #1.
I guess the failed clone theory doesnt hold up anymore.
Speaking of that,there is some theory that Clone Conspiracy will kill Peter and replace him with RYV/Peter.Mostly because of the RYV ongoing announced.Doubt that the editorial would let that happen.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 11, 2016, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: Spade on August 11, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
Suggested for Mature Readers blog has covered most of the things I mentioned here,so I suggest checking that out,if you get the time.They do a great job at examining the British comic scene thru the ages.At least check out their article on Zenith.
Anyhow,I should really stop derailing everything.
I checked Marvel wiki and #1 had 7 printings at this point,just like Star Wars #1.
I guess the failed clone theory doesnt hold up anymore.
Speaking of that,there is some theory that Clone Conspiracy will kill Peter and replace him with RYV/Peter.Mostly because of the RYV ongoing announced.Doubt that the editorial would let that happen.

LOL. I think the derailing train left the station a LOOOONG time ago. In any case, I edited my post over nine thousand times, so check again if you want for more rambling.

I really like V for Vendetta, though I know that was published in Warrior, not 2000AD. I have the trade of it, but unfortunately I never finished it. Should rectify that in the future. I'd heard many times the comic is better than the movie, and I LOVED the movie. Should watch it again sometime. I've been playing Little Big Planet lately and it's gotten me in a Stephen Fry mood. (and yes, I know I'm derailing again)

Re: Clone Conspiracy. Quite possibly. Even Slott haters seemed to like that version of Peter and MJ (still need to read myself) On the one hand, I think that would constitute the biggest instance of one of the Big Two ripping the other off in the history of comics, but on the other hand, editorial apparently ok'd the last two issues of Kelly Spider-Man/DP so at this point I'm not sure what to believe. At this point I'm half expecting Marvel to announce their next big crossover will be called "Death of the Inhumans" and will be largely focused on the X-Men AND the Fantastic Four and will relaunch a new FF series.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 11, 2016, 11:08:06 AM
I already mentioned a bunch of good stuff in 2000AD so if anyone is interested,there is that.If anyone gets tired of its american cousins.Or something.
They brought back Warlock,I guess everything is possible.I wouldnt bet they will replace regular Peter,but I think its pretty likely that RYV family could make the jump to regular MU.Because you can have your cake and eat it too.And what the heck,if you can have 2 Spiderman,third one doesnt make much difference.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 11, 2016, 12:16:34 PM
So reading the Spider-Man/Deadpool #8 review on the Crawlspace website, they compared the designs for the Man-Strosities to Spirited Away and the works of Guilermo Del Toro. Yeah, I can see that. I knew the one that looked like the 0-Tails looked like other creature designs from anime but I couldn't remember what (I was tempted to say Evangelion, but I don't think that's accurate) but Hayao Miyazaki films could definitely fit (though I've not watched them myself) I was also thinking of survival horror games like Resident Evil, Silent Hill and Dead Space.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 17, 2016, 06:17:38 PM
Another not-so-related thing,and about political satire.Funny thing,but this made me dust off some old issues of Crisis and they have not aged well.Not well at all.New Statesman by John Smith is pretty much the only thing that holds up.It think it speaks volumes that Garth Ennis and Mark Millar got their start in Crisis.
And if anyone thinks Millar is bad now,they should have seen it when he was just starting.

To get back to the topic;It would be interesting if T-Ray showed up.I know hes arc is kinda done,but its a comic,they can bring him back.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 17, 2016, 08:22:37 PM
Maybe, it is Joe Kelly after all. To be honest I kinda don't want Kelly to drudge that up again after the pissing match Fabian made of things in his Cable & Deadpool run (one cat said Wade Wilson took the name from a dead man, another objected to it and said it wasn't true, and the rest is history). Oddly enough, if I recall T-Ray popped up again in Way's run and I don't think that made a big deal of it. I've already forgotten, that's how meh it all was.

On the topic of Millar, actually I've heard people say his Superman Adventures (all-ages Superman based on the Bruce Timm animated series) was quite good.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 18, 2016, 03:53:01 AM
I could name a lot of good stuff by Millar;like MK Spiderman,Swamp Thing,Red Son etc.But his work for UK publishers(namely 2000AD and its spinoffs) pretty much sucked to high heaven.Babe race 2000,the name says it all.Or Insiders,more or less a trial run for Wanted.Those are honestly just minor examples,I dont even want to touch Red Razors,or Big Dave.Even Millar admits he wrote some of the worst 2000AD stories ever(nobody argues with that).He ussualy had good artists like Steve Yeowl or Chris Weston working with him to even things out a bit.Tradition which kinda carries over to this day.Far from it that art saves things in this case.

I think I read somewhere that the newest Handbook of Marvel universe lists Deadpools name as Jack;so I guess T-ray was right?
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on October 26, 2016, 08:27:39 PM
Back on the topic of Patient Zeros identity,that was some epic trolling.
I am...
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Tomato on October 26, 2016, 08:47:46 PM
Spoiler
I doubt he's really dead. That whole encounter felt staged.

That being said, it's interesting that he specified Deadpool and Peter Parker, rather than Spider-man.

Personally, I'm nursing a suspicion that it's been Mysterio the whole time, either as a long game, or that he's from the future, sometime after deadpool ran him over.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on October 27, 2016, 04:18:56 AM
He already made a deal with Mephisto once,and it was referenced in this series IIRC.I guess its possible.But Im still guessing its somebody completly new.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on October 27, 2016, 10:09:39 AM
Epic Trolling indeed. Honestly wasn't expecting that, probably should have. Well played, Mr. Kelly.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on October 30, 2016, 05:53:50 AM
Now its 2 filler issues.One of them being a tie in to Monsters Unleashed.
Btw,the Previews advetise Clone Conspiracy as the darkest Spiderman story ever.It remains to be seen why,I guess.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on December 23, 2016, 03:01:23 AM
So Deadpool is doing a crossover between Deadpool, Deadpool & The Mercs for Money, and Spider-Man/Deadpool which will be some kind of monster-filled feud between Deadpool and his wife. Yay, more crossovers. I guess I'll be picking that up.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on December 23, 2016, 09:41:17 AM
Btw,I noticed something hilarious while rereading the whole thing;Deadpools Free-Pass list is:
-Hillary Clinton;if prez(wont happen)  :lol:
-Thor,if hes ever a girl
-Hellcat,if we are in hell
-Zombea Arthur
-Spid....n
Spiderman: Thats a very specific list.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on January 02, 2017, 01:11:00 PM
Spider-Man/Deadpool #12:

The bad news: It's yet another fill-in issue. The good news? I give it the SS seal of approval.  :thumbup: I haven't heard of the two writers on this but I was very impressed. The jokes hit, there were referances a plenty and between the writers and the artists someone was filling this thing with cameos and I really enjoyed it for that. The Christmas party sequence was full of cute gags (my favourite was the Captain Marvel one) and it gave Todd Nauck the opportunity to draw all these characters in their current costumes (which I'm not sure he's ever gotten to do in a comic before). Then you have the villain bar full of surprisingly specific villain cameos. I didn't really care for the main plot (a evil rampaging Saturn trying to literally ruin Christmas) but the actual issue was a lot better than the story premise alone. There are almost too many winning jokes to list:

Spoiler
-Deadpool considers infamouse filmaker Uwe Boll a misunderstood genius. Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
-Deadpool's joke about "19th Century Ghost Rider", racially charged as it was.
-Here's What Deadpool has to say about people who find his sense of humor offensive: "Inappropriate Jokes are literally my thing. Everyody loves me for it. It's why I break box office records."
-Deadpool being indifferent to SantaCon drunks being killed. Based on what I've heard about SantaCon, that sounds about right.
-A jab at Zack Snyder  :thumbup:
-Deadpool: "Wow Old Man Christmas is harder to kill than Old Man Logan!"
-Deadpool claims to have played with Barbies as a kid and made them do naughty things with each other. That doesn't surprise me.
-For once Siri was actually helpful.
-Legit Ghostbusters referance. Though Spidey seems less familiar with it than he did in Bendis' run. He didn't get the reference to Venkmin's "sailor" joke, so apparently he watched the edited-for-tv version as a kid like I did? Of course Deadpool gives us this gem: "I can't wait to see the internet backlash when they remake this issue with the A-Force."
-This joke is followed up with Deadpool saying he has "internet outrage senses" when Spidey mentions religion in regards to Christmas.
-Deadpool gets Spidey high and/or drunk on his dubious energy drink.
-Spidey makes a Game of Thrones referance by mentioning Khaleesi. Somehow I would have thought Deadpool more likely to make that referance. You know he'd watch it for the "plot".
-A running gag with Steve Rogers being an old fogey. But how does that mesh with Hydra Cap?

Then we get to the villain bar, featuring cameos by Rhino (does that fit with Clone Conspiracy?), several members of the cast of Superior Foes of Spider-Man (including the robot head of Silvermane, who IS directly mentioned in the dialogue) Anna Kravin (?), the Enforcers, (including Montana, who apparently is alive again, having died way back in Dan Slott's "Big Time" arc of Amazing) and Typeface (having apparently come back to live after dying during Civil War). I wonder if that canonically counts as those characters being alive again?

So yeah, I was impressed by this creative team. I would buy another fill-in by them if they did more. I'm not planning to pick up the Monsters Unleashed issue though, so I might have to look at a preview for that one if I remember to this time.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 02, 2017, 03:51:02 PM
An okay filler,but a bit random.
Kind of a dick move that they didnt invite Spidey to the Xmas party,considering EVERYONE else is there.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 11, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
We are back to the story with #13,a lot of stuff happens.Thing and Hulk cameo.It would be cool if Thing made a guest appearance in one or two issues,but Bendis has him these days,so I doubt that's gonna happen any time soon.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on January 18, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
That issue was frustrating for me. After the long wait for long of the actual story we got....that arc from Christos Gage's X-Men Legacy where Rogue plays Sword of the Atom for a few issues. I am disappoint. Yeah,  Spidey and Deadpool talked about the main storyline, but it didn't feel to me like much actually happened. I also found the humor was mostly misses, though Spidey's ability to build a small portable explosive out of basically nothing makes me think he should go into business selling the purest meth in the drug trade.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: daglob on January 18, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
Maybe he's a MacGyver fan...

Although, that's sort of like Hawkeye: give him two sticks and a piece of string and WATCH OUT!
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 25, 2017, 04:18:47 PM
The Monsters Unleashed tie in was pretty boring.
Spoiler
The opening act with some girls trying to summon Deadpools soulmate and getting Spidey is funny,but after that some monster destroys Toronto and old jokes are recycled.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on January 25, 2017, 09:54:43 PM
Yeah, I'm planning to go pick up my books tonight and I'm skipping that one. I read a preview of it and the Avengers MU tie-in and I wasn't impressed. Plus I've bought enough filler issues of this book, and I wasn't interested in MU anyway (which is getting an ongoing spinning out of it, by the way)
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 26, 2017, 06:31:48 AM
Doesnt seem to me anyone is interested in MU.I think people expected something along the lines of Remender Punisher/Frankencastle but then Marvel decided to use some generic monsters they just came up with.Yeah,trust these guys to make Kaiju boring.
Dont think I mentioned it,but the collections skip the fillers.Volume 1 has #1-5 and 8.There is also Volume 0 with their previous team-ups,mostly from Deadpool's first and second series and Cable and Deadpool.So hardly anything new.
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on February 22, 2017, 07:22:04 AM
The May solicitations for Spider-Deadpool (which, thank goodness, isn't a fill-in) mention that Patient Zero is causing trouble. Which means Tomato might actually be right and Kelly's not done with him yet. Mind you, we don't know how he'll be back (I'm betting clone, or something else  that doesn't preclude him from actually having died).
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on February 22, 2017, 04:26:37 PM
Between this and Clone Conspiracy,looks like I really suck at guessing the obvious.
Anyhow,Patient Zero is
Spoiler
WEASEL.Which makes sense when I remember the flashback issue with him and Peter in college.
And the story continues in #17.This agaain.  :huh:
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: HarryTrotter on June 07, 2017, 05:03:23 PM
#18 Kellys run is over but there are thread left,and seeing that the next arc is
Spoiler
No More Jokes,Im guessing somethings will be answered.Itsy-Bitsy survived.And Mephisto was behind everything?
Title: Re: Spiderman/Deadpool
Post by: Silver Shocker on June 12, 2017, 12:14:54 PM
I'm gonna miss that fun little book.
Gotta love that joke by DP about the book missing deadlines. Even Deadpool can't keep the continuity straight!

I never really bought Spidey's character arc this whole time, and I can't blame any fan or critic for crying foul, but honestly? For me there was enough good in the book for me to be magnanimous, and compared to Slott's inept "because I say so" fanfic it's a slice of fried gold.
I still stand by my earlier comment that Kelly absolutely deserves to graduate to the main Spidey book. He was one of if not the best Brand New Day writer IMO and he showed a potential for Spidey that I would really like to see bear fruit in an extended run.

So I'm brandishing the hashtag. #JoeKellyOnSpider-Man.