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GhostMachine

Quote from: thalaw2 on May 13, 2007, 12:03:53 AM
Peter was able to stay invisible and use TK to throw paint cans at Issac.  I think he's done other things too.

If I remember right, he was physically tossing the paint cans while invisible, not doing it with TK.

bredon7777

Quote from: GhostMachine on May 13, 2007, 02:52:30 AM
Quote from: thalaw2 on May 13, 2007, 12:03:53 AM
Peter was able to stay invisible and use TK to throw paint cans at Issac.  I think he's done other things too.

If I remember right, he was physically tossing the paint cans while invisible, not doing it with TK.

How could you tell? :)

catwhowalksbyhimself

You can't for sure, but there's no reason to think otherwise.

Revenant

Quote from: Conduit on May 12, 2007, 01:46:38 PM
Ted has always been completely unharmed by his radioactive emissions, even when they're strong enough to burn the skin off of someone a few feet away.  Exploding shouldn't be any different.  Also, A) Peter was alive in Future Hiro's original timeline, hence the "you look different without your scar" comment, and B) Claire can't regenerate if her brain is removed, there is absolutely positively no way in heck that someone with Claire's powers could survive being inside a nuclear fireball and being completely vaporized, much less being at the center of it and having every molecule torn apart.

But Ted expels nuclear energy outward from his body, while he and his clothing remain untouched. 

Conduit

Quote from: Revenant on May 13, 2007, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: Conduit on May 12, 2007, 01:46:38 PM
Ted has always been completely unharmed by his radioactive emissions, even when they're strong enough to burn the skin off of someone a few feet away.  Exploding shouldn't be any different.  Also, A) Peter was alive in Future Hiro's original timeline, hence the "you look different without your scar" comment, and B) Claire can't regenerate if her brain is removed, there is absolutely positively no way in heck that someone with Claire's powers could survive being inside a nuclear fireball and being completely vaporized, much less being at the center of it and having every molecule torn apart.

But Ted expels nuclear energy outward from his body, while he and his clothing remain untouched. 

Yes, that's my point.  He's unharmed by his own radioactive emissions, and someone with his powers would survive exploding.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Don't read too much into the word "exploding."  That doesn't necessarily mean, disolving one's body into a nuclear fireball, but rather disolving everything else into a nuclear fireball.

The Hitman

Hey, dumb question, but why does Nathan have to fly Pete out of town? If he can use two powers atonce, can't he do it himself?

kkhohoho

Quote from: The Hitman on May 13, 2007, 10:19:36 PM
Hey, dumb question, but why does Nathan have to fly Pete out of town? If he can use two powers atonce, can't he do it himself?

I don't think he can use 2 powers at once.  And since when does Nathan have to fly Peter out of town? :huh:

thalaw2

Quote from: bredon7777 on May 13, 2007, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: GhostMachine on May 13, 2007, 02:52:30 AM
Quote from: thalaw2 on May 13, 2007, 12:03:53 AM
Peter was able to stay invisible and use TK to throw paint cans at Issac.  I think he's done other things too.

If I remember right, he was physically tossing the paint cans while invisible, not doing it with TK.

How could you tell? :)


How about the fight on the roof with the invisible man?  First they were fighting while invisible then Pete used TK to stop the pipe from hitting him....it's not clear if he because visible first.

OutsiderNo11

Quote from: The Hitman on May 13, 2007, 10:19:36 PM
Hey, dumb question, but why does Nathan have to fly Pete out of town? If he can use two powers atonce, can't he do it himself?

Because Peter will get overwhelmed by his emotions and cause his own powers to go haywire.  Because of this, he will go nuclear, especially since Ted's abilities are tied to his emotions as well.

Uncle Yuan

Is NBC only keeping the current episode up now?  I hope not - I still haven't seen the previous episode.  Phooey.

Conduit

They still have all the episodes up.  To the right, under "choose an episode," they have groups of episodes listed, 1-5, 6-10, etc.  Just click on the one that the episode you want to see is in, then click on the episode itself.

Talavar

Everyone hear about the Heroes spin-off for next year?  It's going to be called Heroes: Origins, and be the source of newly introduced characters.

bredon7777

Quote from: Talavar on May 14, 2007, 12:45:50 PM
Everyone hear about the Heroes spin-off for next year?  It's going to be called Heroes: Origins, and be the source of newly introduced characters.

Quote from: Zap2it
The "Origins" series will consist of six stand-alone episodes, with each one introducing a new character and telling his or her back story. They'll take place within the "Heroes" universe but won't be tied into the main arc of the series, although one or two regular characters may pop up.

http://www.zap2it.com/zap-nbcupfronts-heroesorigins,0,4997092.story

So, not a full fledged spin off- 6 episodes designed so the show doesnt have to take such long breaks.

You got my hopes up there, man!

Still, this is pretty cool.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Another good episode that really sets things up for the finale.  Several deaths this time around, the most in any episode so far.

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Mr. Nakumura is indeed one of Linderman's original group of heroes, but it appears that he doesn't quite agree with him.  He was actually testing Hiro to see if he had what it takes to be a hero, and was surprised to find that he did.

Now Hiro can use his sword.  We can see a bit of Future Hiro in him now.

Linderman proves that he isn't much of a hero, the way he tried to get Jessica to kill DL.  Nice to see Niki wield enough control over Jessica to stop it.  They also confirmed that Linderman set the two up, apparently so Micah could be born and sees no significance to their relationship beyond that.

Linderman, Ted, and HRG's former boss DL all dead.

Audrey is back--and takes the title of dumbest smart person from Mohinder.

Linderman at least healed Nathan's wife before he died.  That's the one good thing we've seen him do.

We finally see Matt using his powers as a people radar of sorts.  This has only really been seen before in the comics.

Ted's escape form custody as told in the comics is confirmed in this episode by Audrey as having actually taken place.

I think it safe to say that the Company, as least as it existed, is dead now.

I originally put DL down as being dead, but he isn't yet, and the ad for next week showed him and Niki with Molly, so he may very well pull through.
[/spoiler]

MJB

While watching this weeks episode Ms_MJB pointed something out.

[spoiler]Did Linderman heal the deteriorated muscles as well as the spine of Nathans wife? If he didn't then it would have been impossible for her to stand up even with a healed spinal column. [/spoiler]

-MJB

Conduit

This episode was awesome.  It didn't set up the season finale, it WAS part of the season finale, in every sense of the word.  The pacing was tight, major events happened, and it had some of the best moments of the series yet.  If the finale is anything like this, it's going to be one amazing season.

[spoiler]
Thompson, Ted, and Linderman all died.  Thompson I can live without, and Ted was kind of inevitable, but it's a shame to see Linderman go.  Malcolm McDowell is amazing.  Since next season is supposed to involve the previous generation, hopefully he'll show up in flashbacks.  If HRG and Mohinder manage to cooperate and get Molly to safety, then there won't be much of the Company left at all.  I guess this explains how HRG ended up where he was in Five Years Gone.

I can't decide which death was cooler, phasing and tearing his brains out, or "What am I thinking now?"  "Your last thought."  On second thought, it's definitely the latter.

Speaking of which, DL isn't dead yet.  He was definitely still moving slightly at the end.  I wonder if he'll be able to phase his entire body except the bullet.

It's great to see Audrey back, and I don't find what she did dumb at all.  She has absolutely no idea what Sylar looks like, after all.

HRG lost a little bit of my sympathy, what with him being willing to kill the Walker system knowing that it was a person, and not reconsidering much when it turns out to be a little girl.

I'm not sure how to feel about Ando's actions.  Trying to take on Sylar himself would have been heroicly stupid if Hiro really was off to Japan, but you'd think he could have at least called Hiro to check up on him.

I loved the callback to Five Years Gone with Nathan's speech montage.  It's a testament to how good this show is that it can reference an episode 2 weeks ago and make it work.

Nitpick: In real life, just about all voting machines in New York are old fashioned lever pull types.  They can be rigged, but they're completely mechanical, so Micah wouldn't be able to do anything to them.  Though I guess in the Heroes world, Linderman could easily have helped negotiate a deal between an electronic voting machine company and New York state a few years back.

Quote from: MJB on May 14, 2007, 07:45:51 PM
Did Linderman heal the deteriorated muscles as well as the spine of Nathans wife? If he didn't then it would have been impossible for her to stand up even with a healed spinal column.[

It's only been six months, her muscles shouldn't have atrophied that much.  I know many astronauts have stayed in orbit for longer periods of time and have still been able to walk on return to Earth.
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BentonGrey

Really fantastic episode, we really enjoyed it at the Grey house.  I've got to say though:

[spoiler]Don't count Linderman out yet....yeah, I know, brain gone....but villains have come back from worse than that, and the man IS a healer....I don't know, he's probably dead, but I'm just not quite sure.[/spoiler]

Shogunn2517

[spoiler]I'm not sure Linderman is dead...  I mean, he can heal others, why wouldn't he be able to heal himself?  Probably because he's dead, but who knows.  I doubt his powers simply extended to curation.

I also wonder what powers does "Dallas" Petrelli and Kaito Nakamura have?[/spoiler]

BatWing

all new heroes today
just a reminder :thumbup:

Conduit

Raijin, the episode aired 2 hours ago.

[spoiler]
Linderman had part of his brain torn out.  Even Claire probably wouldn't be able to come back from that.  Besides, there is absolutely no evidence that he can heal himself, but even if he could, it has been established that he cannot bring the dead back to life and that his healing power requires him to consciously think about it, which is obviously impossible if he's dead.
[/spoiler]

BatWing

huh!? :faint

well on my cable it will come on 9:00

The Hitman

Quote from: Raijin on May 14, 2007, 08:09:19 PM
all new heroes today
just a reminder :thumbup:
Quote from: Conduit on May 14, 2007, 08:13:26 PM
Raijin, the episode aired 2 hours ago.

Timezones...

Great episode. Too tired to comment fully on the experience, but great episode.

OutsiderNo11

Just one question (which I doubt is a spoiler):

Where the F@#$ is the Haitian?

BatWing

QuoteGreat episode. Too tired to comment fully on the experience, but great episode.


whoa ho!
then i'll shall join u in 20 min!

OutsiderNo11

On another note, it looks more and more like my predictions about then finale are coming true...

Alaric

Quote from: Raijin on May 14, 2007, 08:25:46 PM
huh!? :faint

well on my cable it will come on 9:00

Remember, different people here are in different time zones. At the time you posted this, it was already 11:30 or so in New York, where I am, for example. Heroes aired at 9:00 here, too.

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 14, 2007, 07:10:29 PM[spoiler]Nice to see Niki wield enough control over Jessica to stop it. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]It looked to me as though Jessica willingly gave up control to Niki so she wouldn't have to kill DL.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Conduit on May 14, 2007, 07:47:09 PM

[spoiler]HRG lost a little bit of my sympathy, what with him being willing to kill the Walker system knowing that it was a person, and not reconsidering much when it turns out to be a little girl.[/spoiler]


[spoiler]It looked to me like he was reconsidering a lot- things just happened too quickly once they got there for him to fully react.[/spoiler]

Talavar

[spoiler]
Is it just me, or did Hiro pick up sword-fighting pretty fast?  And why wouldn't Ando at least wait to see what happened to Hiro?  Great episode, these were just some minor nit-picks of mine.

As to Nathan's wife's healing, if Linderman can fix her spine, why can't he fix muscle atrophy?  Doesn't seem like a stretch to me. 

Also, my verdict is on LInderman being dead.  He had his brain pulped, and Malcom McDowell is relatively famous to keep coming back indefinitely. 
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BatWing

i've seen it and it is good!

bredon7777

Watching it now...anyone else notice.. [spoiler]

Under the ad for the shop Ando steered Hiro to, there was an ad for Bill's Sword Forging and training?

Shout out to Kill Bill I think :)

[/spoiler]

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