FRAGGIN EB'S AND AV'S, aaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!

[Valandar]

Okay, I can kind of understand the proliferation of Elite Bosses and Archvillains in the post-40 missions.

But this leads to the single BIGGEST headache of the endgame, and the entire game in general.

In the comics, 90% of the costumed villains are chumps.

In this game, 90% of the costumed villains require at least 2-3 people to even have a chance of facing without spending a million Inf at WW to get the uber insps, and bringing along a debuffer is almost mandatory

Solo? Forget it unless you have optimized and tweaked your build to the utmost, and are packing all the best insps, enh's, and sets.

AAAAAAAAAAARRRGHH!!!!!

[Verfall]

Okay, I can kind of understand the proliferation of Elite Bosses and Archvillains in the post-40 missions.

But this leads to the single BIGGEST headache of the endgame, and the entire game in general.

In the comics, 90% of the costumed villains are chumps.

In this game, 90% of the costumed villains require at least 2-3 people to even have a chance of facing without spending a million Inf at WW to get the uber insps, and bringing along a debuffer is almost mandatory

Solo? Forget it unless you have optimized and tweaked your build to the utmost, and are packing all the best insps, enh's, and sets.

AAAAAAAAAAARRRGHH!!!!!

Uh, not really. Generic tier 1 insps should be all you really need. A few break frees and lucks basically, maybe some reds to speed it up. You're a blaster, you're the definition of a glass cannon. Just buy up 8 small lucks, 4 small breaks frees and maybe 2 or 3 reds. If you're really desperate, head into bloody bay and grab a shivan shard. Those things alone will let you solo 5 eb's easily, and they're easily refillable.

Look at EB's this way, it's PVP against a really dumb player who does the same stuff over and over again. Some builds will destroy em, others will have a tough time. Blasters are squishy and need to use outside methods versus some EB's. Just be glad you're in the end game when they con down to EB's, imagine trying to solo when they stayed at AV's and you didn't have a mission drop option. It pays to have some friends.

[BlueBard]

Just for my own information...

I've never been to Bloody Bay and don't know how to get a Shivan Shard.  How's that work?

[El Condor]

I've never been to Bloody Bay and don't know how to get a Shivan Shard.  How's that work?

This link gives the step-by-step.  Remember that Bloody Bay is a PvP zone, so you may be ganked at any time.  Keep your camera wide and your eyes peeled.

EC

[Valandar]

Okay, I can kind of understand the proliferation of Elite Bosses and Archvillains in the post-40 missions.

But this leads to the single BIGGEST headache of the endgame, and the entire game in general.

In the comics, 90% of the costumed villains are chumps.

In this game, 90% of the costumed villains require at least 2-3 people to even have a chance of facing without spending a million Inf at WW to get the uber insps, and bringing along a debuffer is almost mandatory

Solo? Forget it unless you have optimized and tweaked your build to the utmost, and are packing all the best insps, enh's, and sets.

AAAAAAAAAAARRRGHH!!!!!

Uh, not really. Generic tier 1 insps should be all you really need. A few break frees and lucks basically, maybe some reds to speed it up. You're a blaster, you're the definition of a glass cannon. Just buy up 8 small lucks, 4 small breaks frees and maybe 2 or 3 reds. If you're really desperate, head into bloody bay and grab a shivan shard. Those things alone will let you solo 5 eb's easily, and they're easily refillable.

Look at EB's this way, it's PVP against a really dumb player who does the same stuff over and over again. Some builds will destroy em, others will have a tough time. Blasters are squishy and need to use outside methods versus some EB's. Just be glad you're in the end game when they con down to EB's, imagine trying to solo when they stayed at AV's and you didn't have a mission drop option. It pays to have some friends.

The ones that REALLY gank my chain, though, have a durn Self heal. And they all seem to be immune to knockdown/knockback. I'm an En/En blaster, and some of my sets give a knockdown bonus and/or enhancement, yet they NEVER get knocked down. >.<

I used four Lucks, four Reds, and every hard-hitting power I have, but never managed to take Shadow Hunter down more than a few pixels. Looking at the "numbers" in the Combat tab, I did, in fact, hit him nearly EVERY time (missing only with one shot), I just couldn't keep up with his self-heal. And the one time I got stunned, I got wiped in the time it took me to move the mouse over to the Break Free. >.<

[Camma]

I forget is Shadowhunter the one with all the wolves in the outdoor instance.  IIRC he and a few others do have an insane regen rate and i doubt anyone can solo them.

Almost every EB/AV level mob will be immune to knockback and status effects unless you can stack them (which you can't with knockback).

[Midnight]

Shaddy is particularly difficult, yes.

[captainspud]

I forget is Shadowhunter the one with all the wolves in the outdoor instance.  IIRC he and a few others do have an insane regen rate and i doubt anyone can solo them.

Chokepoint soloed the entire Freedom Phalanx. -Regen is ridicubroken. Or, was. :(

[catastrophe]

I actually didnt have a hard time with Shadowhunter, but Steel Mantis was a real pain. She does insane damage and regens faster that shadowhunter. I even tried shooting up with insps and she managed to outregen me...

[Camma]

I forget is Shadowhunter the one with all the wolves in the outdoor instance.  IIRC he and a few others do have an insane regen rate and i doubt anyone can solo them.

Chokepoint soloed the entire Freedom Phalanx. -Regen is ridicubroken. Or, was. :(

Right-right, it all stemmed from arguements like in this thread.  Someone said I can't solo him, so the Dev's beefed up -regen in Radiation and a few other selected powers such as in Kinetics, and said GO FORTH AND TEAM WITH DEFENDERS/CONTROLLERS.  But of course the pendulum swung too far.  I think it has since been brought back to a more reasonable -regen.

[Lunarman]

Obviously, being only lvl 22 I've not got much experience in this sorta thing, but AV/EBs have never caused much problem for me. I just did the storyline of Faultline in which I had to fight several AVs pretty regularly. At the end mission I had to fight three at once. I didn't team up, just used a lot of inspirations. Also, flying away when the going got though and resting where they couldn't hit me, was an effective trick.

[El Condor]

Obviously, being only lvl 22 I've not got much experience in this sorta thing, but AV/EBs have never caused much problem for me. I just did the storyline of Faultline in which I had to fight several AVs pretty regularly. At the end mission I had to fight three at once. I didn't team up, just used a lot of inspirations. Also, flying away when the going got though and resting where they couldn't hit me, was an effective trick.

Those AVs are certainly good tussle at 22, but the AVs in the 40s are really another league entirely.  You need a lot more at that point.  Fortunately, you are more studly and powerful if you've built well along the way, but more inps and buffing/debuffing amigos make a world of difference.  The Faultline-level AVs should really be considered much closer to EBs, for practical purposes.

EC

[Camma]

I do really like the Faultline Arc just because they give you that taste of AVs but as Condoroso said not too tough too soon.  The best part is getting a SO under level 25.  I think i teamed on some of those missions when my tank was 18 and gotta level 19 SO woohoo.

Oh plus there is the little lost (i think he a lost) AV.  I forget his name but i always thought he was so little and cute.  The cutest AV ever!!!

[Funeral-Pyre]

That would be Kurse, I believe.

[Valandar]

Most EB's, if I stock up on Luck and Damage insps, I can take. Accuracy isn't a problem, I still have a 95% chance to hit on most of my attacks even against purple minions.

It's the ones with Self Heal that get my goat. >.<

[Verfall]

Most EB's, if I stock up on Luck and Damage insps, I can take. Accuracy isn't a problem, I still have a 95% chance to hit on most of my attacks even against purple minions.

It's the ones with Self Heal that get my goat. >.<

I find Shadowhunter to be the hardest one hero-side. Massive resists with earths embrace firing up every couple minutes. He's hard for everyone practically. Just wait till you run into Diabolique. Nothing like an EB using siphon speed, followed by phase shift and a run through the entire mission. Made even more fun by the fact she spawns near the beginning in a COT cave mish for one of her appearances.

Also, any of them that use a tier 9 can be really annoying.

It's funny though how the praetorians are really weak in comparison to their real hero counterparts. Ms. Liberty for instance. Dominatrix is pathetic, doing only gravity attacks that do no real damage. Ms. Liberty, however, uses martial arts, invulnerability, has access to a lightning blast, and can turn unstoppable on at will with no recharge to it practically. Upper level heroes have it easy really.

[Anastasiya]

Since you're pretty active about chatting in-game, Val, you may want to consider taking just a little more time to ask about what you're going up against.  A lot of those who use the coalition channel between the Babes of War and FR/HAMSTER have at least one level 50 and are fairly familiar with the EBs you'll be going up against.  We're happy to give advice when we're not in the middle of something that makes it hard to talk.

You'll also want to watch out for . . . oh, what is Evil Lumi's name.  Shadowstar?  I barely pay attention to their names anymore.  Anyway, she has *your* powers and will happily nova you into the next block.

Oh, one other thing.  If you don't like Shadowhunter, make sure you have teammates when you do the higher-end RWZ stuff.  You will REALLY not like the EBs/AVs you find in there.  And if you don't like EBs/AVs, I'd suggest you stay as far away from Mender Silos as humanly possible.

[NeoDarke]

I always loved fighting EB's and AV's. Half of my characters hunt for them. If I recall correctly my Tanker, US Crusader (Inv/SS), has in his little invite thingy that he'll do anything but Farms, and that AV battles are most welcome. :P Even my Peacebringer Couatl has reached that point. And as soon as I come back to the game, it'll be my Scrapper Bandit Warrior (BS/SR). :lol: Then on villainside, it's my Stalker Kougi (NB/Nin) who it ready, willing, and able to try soloing EVERYTHING. Hated fighting Infernal with him solo... But I beat that SOB!