Tin Man

[bredon7777]

Anybody else watching this?  What do you think?

I liked it well enough until the tattoos turned into the flying monkeys; for some reason (probably the tattoos location) that just shattered my suspension  of disbelief. Not to mention being a big cheese factor.

[kkhohoho]

Anybody else watching this?  What do you think?

I liked it well enough until the tattoos turned into the flying monkeys; for some reason (probably the tattoos location) that just shattered my suspension  of disbelief

And all the other spells and voodoo she did didn't?

I personally like it, a lot.  Hopefully, I will continue liking it through the next 2 parts.

[Camma]

Well i have to say all-in-all i enjoyed Tin Man.  Although it totally did not have to be a mini-series, the story was pretty good and most of the actors gave good performances.

[spoiler]That isnt to say there arent parts that i absolutely hated.  Toto/Tutor's performance was so utterly forced it hurt me every time he openned his mouth.  They could have had a bit more subtlety there.

As i mentioned above, why was this a mini-series?  I saw at least 3 opportunities to end the story, once even within reasonable feature film length timing.  I felt like the finale was drawn out just to make this a three parter and not b/c the content was so rich that it needed it.

Also why was it title Tin Man? Sure Cane was a principal character, had a strong story and development but uhhh correct me if im wrong but the story was about DG and her family soooooo yeah...?

Finally, and please correct me cuz i would love to know im wrong or missed something, but didnt Cane get shot, fall, and break thru the ice?  Then Glitch (i think it was glitch) runs our the door of the ice palace to find Cane's body right next to the door?  Uhh hello? Scifi?  Care to explain that one?  Like i said please tell me i just spaced out and didnt see what happened, otherwise thats a glaring plot hole.[/spoiler]

[BWPS]

I still have only seen the first one. I can say that this is better than Mammoth.

[kkhohoho]

Finally, and please correct me cuz i would love to know im wrong or missed something, but didnt Cane get shot, fall, and break thru the ice?  Then Glitch (i think it was glitch) runs our the door of the ice palace to find Cane's body right next to the door?  Uhh hello? Scifi?  Care to explain that one?  Like i said please tell me i just spaced out and didnt see what happened, otherwise thats a glaring plot hole.[/spoiler]

It's possible that Cane had just enough strength and willpower left to make it to the door.  Once he did that, he could have passed out.

[MJB]

I saw a "making of" and a preview of this but opted out of actually watching it.

Anyone who has watched the entire mini-series that wants to chime in with opinions would be appreciated.

-MJB

[kkhohoho]

I saw a "making of" and a preview of this but opted out of actually watching it.

Anyone who has watched the entire mini-series that wants to chime in with opinions would be appreciated.

-MJB

Actually, there's a Tim Man comic at Sci-Fi's website.  I'm not sure, but it might be an adaption of the show.  If you don't want to read it, then here's my two cents.

It was quite good. The story was quite good, and the four main characters (DJ, Glitch, Cain, Raw) each had points where they were focused on, though in terms of amount of focus, DG came first, Cain came second, Glitch came third, and Raw came forth, although Raw did have "his moment" by the end.  Just don't compare it to The Wizard of Oz.  You can tell that Tim Man is loosely based of TWOZ, but they end up being so different, you can't really compare the two.  All in all, I'd say that if it ever comes on again or comes out on DVD, anyone who missed out on it should watch it.

[AncientSpirit]

For an alternative point of view, my wife and I tried to watch this ... and both disliked it to the point of turning it off just as they were entering the city.  In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.   But what I found was truly "a horse of a different color."

The Tin Man himself (and admittedly this opinion was formed on the basis of just the first hour of the first show) wasn't drawn even in 2-D, let alone 3-D. 

So, if it does come out on DVD, at least rent it before you buy it - just in case you react the way we did.    (Since we both love most things sci-fi and fantasy, we had actually recorded all three episodes before we started watching -- and have since erased them.)

Of course, you mileage may vary.

[kkhohoho]

In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.

You can't compare the two.  They even have different titles.  The director explained himself that the purpose of Tin Man was to be a reimagining of TWOZ, not an update.

[JeyNyce]

For an alternative point of view, my wife and I tried to watch this ... and both disliked it to the point of turning it off just as they were entering the city.  In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.   But what I found was truly "a horse of a different color."

The Tin Man himself (and admittedly this opinion was formed on the basis of just the first hour of the first show) wasn't drawn even in 2-D, let alone 3-D. 

So, if it does come out on DVD, at least rent it before you buy it - just in case you react the way we did.    (Since we both love most things sci-fi and fantasy, we had actually recorded all three episodes before we started watching -- and have since erased them.)

Of course, you mileage may vary.

Me and my wife felt the same way.  There's something about DG that seems phoney about her.  She's like a adult person trying to act like a teen.

[AncientSpirit]

In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.

You can't compare the two.  They even have different titles.  The director explained himself that the purpose of Tin Man was to be a reimagining of TWOZ, not an update.

Yeah, I guess that was my biggest problem -- I didn't find the "re-imagining" to be very imaginative.

And given how imaginative the original was, this really seemed lamed to me.    To have a few broken bricks reimagine the yellow brick road didn't take a lot of imagination, IMHO.   Nor, making the Tin Man and re-imagining him as a former cop, as in Tin Star sheriff.

JeyNyce, you zeroed in on another thing that troubled me.  DG definitely seemed like an adult trying to act and sound like a child to me, as well. 

I did like the bit about the parents who weren't parents but mechanical beings.   But that didn't go anywhere for me -- and the re-imagining of the Wicked Witch of the West was as bad as Flash Gordon's reimagining of Ming.  Pure cliche.

Of course, all this may have changed dramatically after the first hour that I put in.  Did it?

[kkhohoho]

In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.

You can't compare the two.  They even have different titles.  The director explained himself that the purpose of Tin Man was to be a reimagining of TWOZ, not an update.

Yeah, I guess that was my biggest problem -- I didn't find the "re-imagining" to be very imaginative.

And given how imaginative the original was, this really seemed lamed to me.    To have a few broken bricks reimagine the yellow brick road didn't take a lot of imagination, IMHO.   Nor, making the Tin Man and re-imagining him as a former cop, as in Tin Star sheriff.

JeyNyce, you zeroed in on another thing that troubled me.  DG definitely seemed like an adult trying to act and sound like a child to me, as well. 

I did like the bit about the parents who weren't parents but mechanical beings.   But that didn't go anywhere for me -- and the re-imagining of the Wicked Witch of the West was as bad as Flash Gordon's reimagining of Ming.  Pure cliche.

Of course, all this may have changed dramatically after the first hour that I put in.  Did it?

There's a storyline reason as to why the sorceress acts cliche, DG's acting gets better as Tin Man moves along, and you can't compare the two because after the first half hour or so of part two, the story takes it's own path, and doesn't follow TWOZ again till the last half hour or so of part 3.

[BWPS]

For an alternative point of view, my wife and I tried to watch this ... and both disliked it to the point of turning it off just as they were entering the city.  In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.   But what I found was truly "a horse of a different color."

The Tin Man himself (and admittedly this opinion was formed on the basis of just the first hour of the first show) wasn't drawn even in 2-D, let alone 3-D. 

So, if it does come out on DVD, at least rent it before you buy it - just in case you react the way we did.    (Since we both love most things sci-fi and fantasy, we had actually recorded all three episodes before we started watching -- and have since erased them.)

Of course, you mileage may vary.

Me and my wife felt the same way.  There's something about DG that seems phoney about her.  She's like a adult person trying to act like a teen.

To me she seemed like someone who can't act trying to act like someone who can act. Though I agree, I had no idea how old she was supposed to be anyway.

[spoiler]"Oh, so you parents of mine that I've known my whole life have been creepy robots this whole time? This doesn't disconcert me much as I never show believable reaction to anything." "So what should we do now, cowboy who would've been way cooler as a robot?"[/spoiler]

[kkhohoho]

For an alternative point of view, my wife and I tried to watch this ... and both disliked it to the point of turning it off just as they were entering the city.  In fairness, I was looking for something was more of an update of the Wizard of Oz, with more relevancy to today, perhaps.   But what I found was truly "a horse of a different color."

The Tin Man himself (and admittedly this opinion was formed on the basis of just the first hour of the first show) wasn't drawn even in 2-D, let alone 3-D. 

So, if it does come out on DVD, at least rent it before you buy it - just in case you react the way we did.    (Since we both love most things sci-fi and fantasy, we had actually recorded all three episodes before we started watching -- and have since erased them.)

Of course, you mileage may vary.

Me and my wife felt the same way.  There's something about DG that seems phoney about her.  She's like a adult person trying to act like a teen.

To me she seemed like someone who can't act trying to act like someone who can act. Though I agree, I had no idea how old she was supposed to be anyway.

[spoiler]"Oh, so you parents of mine that I've known my whole life have been creepy robots this whole time? This doesn't disconcert me much as I never show believable reaction to anything." "So what should we do now, cowboy who would've been way cooler as a robot?"[/spoiler]

Actually, I like Cain better then the Tin Man.