And it is good!
http://fallout.bethsoft.com/# (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/#)
Ron Pearlman voice: "War... uuuuh... what is it good for!?"
Im looking foward to Bethesdas game and HOPEFULLY it will bring back the Adults only rpg which I solely miss. With Toika gone games like VTM: Bloodlines are just a memory of better times when you where allowed to play trully amoral characters in a really messed up world.
I basically cried when I heard Pearlman's voice. I've been waiting for this game for about 10 years.
QuotePete Hines commented on the video at Voodoo Extreme:
1) Yes, that's in-engine (in-engine means it's done with game assets in our rendering engine, but isn't done real-time. If it was done in real-time, that'd be gameplay footage. This isn't something, for example, that was sent to some house [e.g. Blue Studios] so they could build assets and render it out, and create something for us to release [e.g. Dawn of War 40K intro cinematic]). 2) Yes, that's The Ink Spots singing "I Don't Want to Set the World On Fire" 3) Yes, that's Ron Perlman [voiceover man extraordinaire of Fallout 1 and 2
QuotePete Hines has graciously confirmed to DAC that the recording of Ron Perlman in the Fallout 3 Teaser Trailer is, in fact, brand new. He recorded it specifically for Bethesda.
From No Mutants Allowed.
It's really going to happen?!?!?! Oh, mien gott, I think I can finally die now!!
Yes DJ it will. And it will be good.
On other Fallout 3 things, has anyone played the Van Buren tech demo?(Black Isle/Interplay's Fallout 3)
Quote from: General Jerky on June 06, 2007, 08:37:10 AM
Yes DJ it will. And it will be good.
On other Fallout 3 things, has anyone played the Van Buren tech demo?(Black Isle/Interplay's Fallout 3)
I downloaded it and have it zipped but never played it, is it like executable? Have you played it?
About fallout finally happening, hey, it worked out for sam and Max after all these years, fallout deserves a good release too. Again, those of you who havent done the sam and Max games do so right now, it's the best value out there on game tap.
Quote from: lugaru on June 06, 2007, 03:08:57 PM
Quote from: General Jerky on June 06, 2007, 08:37:10 AM
Yes DJ it will. And it will be good.
On other Fallout 3 things, has anyone played the Van Buren tech demo?(Black Isle/Interplay's Fallout 3)
I downloaded it and have it zipped but never played it, is it like executable? Have you played it?
About fallout finally happening, hey, it worked out for sam and Max after all these years, fallout deserves a good release too. Again, those of you who havent done the sam and Max games do so right now, it's the best value out there on game tap.
Yes I have. Its very buggy and alot of things dont work because well its a tech demo that was made for Black Isle/Interplay developers to work on. But from what I have done in it, it looks like it would of been a great game.
Quote from: General Jerky on June 06, 2007, 08:34:14 AM
I basically cried when I heard Pearlman's voice. I've been waiting for this game for about 10 years.
I know how you feel, man. Fallout was the first game i ever played on PC and til this day nothing comes close. Except Fallout 2. I was told it was Patrick Stewart on the voice-over. I'm glad that was misinformation, no-one but Pearlman deserves that honour. I will buy this game the day it comes out at whatever price they set, take a week off work and live Fallout 3.
OMG OMG OMG! *fangirly squeal
*collapses
*twitches
Actually, been keeping an eye on it since the forums went up, so its not that much of a surprise to me. Video rocks though, and will certainly entice the fanboys and newcomers alike. I mean, you know theres some people out there who don't know the Fallout series? Shocking :blink:
2008???? sigh
After reading info and see pictures I have.......0 faith in this game. I mean a nuclear catapult shot at a car's nuclear battery to kill 2 ants? W...T...H?
but on to good news....
Quote
Brian Fargo, producer of Wasteland, founder of Interplay and InXile, told Duck and Cover:
I am indeed looking into bringing back the game that spawned the Fallout series. Stay tuned....
I really want to kick myself, because I saw Fallout 1 & 2 on sale for $9.99 and I didn't pick it up. Now I can't find either game. :doh:
BTW anybody else playing Stalker? It has a great fallout vibe, it's totally about radiation, mutants, fire arms and scavenging. It lacks fallouts over the top humor but its still great.
QuoteI really want to kick myself, because I saw Fallout 1 & 2 on sale for $9.99 and I didn't pick it up. Now I can't find either game. doh
Check Ebay. I easily found several copies of 1, 2, and Tactics bundled on DVD for $15 plus about 5$ shipping.
btw GFW has a really good podcast about fallout 3, here's what I remember in brief:
1) You have an editor to create your look, based on it that is what your father (voiced by Liam Neelson) looks like.
2) you learn the basics of WASD as a todler in a todler mini game, latter at the age of ten you learn shooting with a bb gun. Think of it as a spore approach to character development. An aptitude test at age 16 reveals your skills and specialties.
3) At age 19 you leave the vault (i.e. end the tutorial) and go in search of your dad. The world is supposed to be just as fun and full of options as fallout 1.
4) Scavenging is big, and keeping your weapons in working order usually means repairing them with the better parts you find lying around.
5) It is a first person shooter BUT you can spend action points to stop time and plan out actions, such as shoot a foe in a specific body part, each with a percentile difficulty. After doing so your action points replentish according to a stat.
So what do you guy's think, good news or bad? Im pretty happy myself, accepting it wont be the same 2d overhead game of course.
QuoteSo what do you guy's think, good news or bad? Im pretty happy myself, accepting it wont be the same 2d overhead game of course.
Well, first of all I'm just happy to see they are finally making a Fallout 3. It certainly took a while, lets hope they don't drop this one as well.
I think the Fallout universe is one my all time favourite game universes of all time. It definitely made a huge impact on me back then and it still holds up. (It's only been half a year since I played through Fallout 2 again)
I'm kind of shredded in my view of things though, on hand I think the universe and concept is so good, something interesting must come out of it, on the other hand I'm really disappointed to learn it's going to be a first person shooter. Nothing wrong with first person shooters, I was just hoping they would have stayed just a little more true to the original strategic RPG style game. There's a lot of great first person shooters out there, not that many Fallout games. Why not let Fallout stay Fallout and FPS stay, well, the millions of titles that covers.
Quote from: lugaru on July 08, 2007, 03:15:57 PM
btw GFW has a really good podcast about fallout 3, here's what I remember in brief:
1) You have an editor to create your look, based on it that is what your father (voiced by Liam Neelson) looks like.
2) you learn the basics of WASD as a todler in a todler mini game, latter at the age of ten you learn shooting with a bb gun. Think of it as a spore approach to character development. An aptitude test at age 16 reveals your skills and specialties.
3) At age 19 you leave the vault (i.e. end the tutorial) and go in search of your dad. The world is supposed to be just as fun and full of options as fallout 1.
4) Scavenging is big, and keeping your weapons in working order usually means repairing them with the better parts you find lying around.
5) It is a first person shooter BUT you can spend action points to stop time and plan out actions, such as shoot a foe in a specific body part, each with a percentile difficulty. After doing so your action points replentish according to a stat.
So what do you guy's think, good news or bad? Im pretty happy myself, accepting it wont be the same 2d overhead game of course.
Lugaru, you have single handedly tripled my already huge enthusiasm for this game with this post!
Meh. The targeting wont be worth it without groin and eye shots.
Quote from: General Jerky on July 11, 2007, 03:59:11 AM
Meh. The targeting wont be worth it without groin and eye shots.
I fondly remember punching rats in the groin. And yeah, there's something very wrong with that.
^groin punching people is fun. :(
But this part made me grin when I read it
QuoteChris Remo, Shacknews: Taking a Vault-Tec lunchbox and filling it with bottle caps and explosives creates an improvised, but deadly, shrapnel bomb. (ref)
I've gotta' say, I'm not too thrilled to hear that this is gonna' be a first person shooter....but I'll reserve judgment.
QuoteI've gotta' say, I'm not too thrilled to hear that this is gonna' be a first person shooter....but I'll reserve judgment.
Phew, I was starting to think I was the only one who had some reservation towards this. Fallout as an action game wasn't what I was hoping for. But hey it's a new day and a new time, perhaps it will still be worth playing...
Quote from: Swingman on July 12, 2007, 10:58:35 AM
QuoteI've gotta' say, I'm not too thrilled to hear that this is gonna' be a first person shooter....but I'll reserve judgment.
Phew, I was starting to think I was the only one who had some reservation towards this. Fallout as an action game wasn't what I was hoping for. But hey it's a new day and a new time, perhaps it will still be worth playing...
Yes I agree but Im more interested in having a good 'adult' game. Did any one else ever play vampire: bloodlines? It is a first person shooter but it uses the conventions of a fallout style open ended game (such as baldurs gate or arcanum) while doing action very well. If fallout pulls this off, good action while allowing options that either improve or hurt the world... then I will be happy. I hope they do more for balance too... with my invisibility gadget and sniper rifle I was untouchable at the end of the game.
I dont like the fact that there is a nuclear catapult. Im sorry but thats plain stupid.
And along with no eye shot and possibly no groin shot this also made me die inside
QuoteHow dialogue works? [sic]
Branching dialogue tree, different choices/chances of success based on charisma and speaking skill.
Poor INT will NOT affect your dialogue choices.
I miss talking to someone with like 1 INT. and have them go
"Good you remembered your name."
Can't believe noone has mentioned that yet...
Got mine yesterday, barely left the comp since. It's got all the humor of Fallout, with all the great gameplay of Oblivion minus most of the problems Oblivion had.
My fears proved to be unwarranted, I'm loving this as much as I loved the first two!
Good news! I'm going to wait for a while to pick it up, but I can see myself playing non-stop around the holidays. I've beena big fan of Fallout and it's predacessors Wasteland and Wasteland Fountain of Dreams.
Quotewith all the great gameplay of Oblivion minus most of the problems Oblivion had.
In other words, they didn't make Fallout 3, they made Fallout: Oblivion. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but fans wanting a real sequal are going to be ticked off.
They also made (ahem) Brotherhood of Steel....
Fallout 1 is Fallout 1.
Fallout 2 is Fallout 2.
and Fallout 3 is Fallout 3.
Its not a remake or a re imagining, its a sequel.
Most sequels are either copies or branches in a new direction. They had the copy sequel, now they have something new.
Will it annoy some...yes. But most sequels do.
All that matters to me is that its a fun apocalyptic game that allows me to roam around the wasteland killing things.
And Liam Neeson is my dad... All is well as far as I'm concerned. :)
QuoteIts not a remake or a re imagining, its a sequel.
Most sequels are either copies or branches in a new direction. They had the copy sequel, now they have something new.
Will it annoy some...yes. But most sequels do.
No, it's not. A real sequal is the same kind of game. It may go in another direction, but fallowing what made the previous games great.
Fallout 3 should be a traditional story based turn-based RPG with tactical elements. This is a first person shooter with RPG elements. The setting may be the same, they may even have nailed it, but it doesn't not interest me at all. Fallout 1 interested me, as did 2, as would any real 3, but this is a very differnet genre of game and therefore is not a sequal in any true sense.
That would be like if they had named the first Heroes of might and magic Might and Magic IV. Same setting, a lot of shared ideas, monsters, and such, but different genres.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 29, 2008, 10:54:02 PM
QuoteIts not a remake or a re imagining, its a sequel.
Most sequels are either copies or branches in a new direction. They had the copy sequel, now they have something new.
Will it annoy some...yes. But most sequels do.
No, it's not. A real sequal is the same kind of game. It may go in another direction, but fallowing what made the previous games great.
Fallout 3 should be a traditional story based turn-based RPG with tactical elements. This is a first person shooter with RPG elements. The setting may be the same, they may even have nailed it, but it doesn't not interest me at all. Fallout 1 interested me, as did 2, as would any real 3, but this is a very differnet genre of game and therefore is not a sequal in any true sense.
That would be like if they had named the first Heroes of might and magic Might and Magic IV. Same setting, a lot of shared ideas, monsters, and such, but different genres.
I second that completely. Fallout 3 might be a good game, it might even be a great game - but it's no sequel to Fallout 1 and 2, just as Fallout: Tactics and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel weren't real sequels to the franchise.
I'm also annoyed that the gaming media is using this as another opportunity to show how irrelevent they are - Fallout 3 has already received a bunch of perfect scores. No matter how good a game is, none of them are perfect. And how many games receive these sort of masturbatory reviews at release, only to be criticized later when an expansion or sequel comes out to improve upon that perfection? It's not a low number these days.
QuoteFallout 3 should be a traditional story based turn-based RPG with tactical elements. This is a first person shooter with RPG elements. The setting may be the same, they may even have nailed it, but it doesn't not interest me at all. Fallout 1 interested me, as did 2, as would any real 3, but this is a very differnet genre of game and therefore is not a sequal in any true sense.
But the last one had a "2" at the end.
This one has a "3"
Ask anyone in Hollywood or at EA... thats a sequel... ;)
I suppose in fairness you could actually call it the next in the series of Fallout games (which would also allow you to include the before mentioned Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel). But I'm still standing by my original argument that even if its just sharing ideas, settings and concepts alone, if its fun and I enjoy it, who cares if its technically definable as a sequel or not. In my mind it is. Its the next in the Series... like it, hate it, or otherwise. At that point to me its just a matter of semantics.
I understand your argument though, you are certainly not the first person to share it, I just don't necessarily agree.
Fallout 3 falls into the same catagory that Grand Theft Auto is in... Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto: UK, and Grand Theft Auto 2 were top-down moderately bloody shoot-em-up/driving games that ran on older Windows systems (and the PSOne) but held a rather loyal fan base for the limited story they told..
Grand Theft Auto 3 came along with a completely new game engine that suddenly put you into a full interactive 3D world but now you were fully appearing on screen in 3rd person perspective just behind the character (except for using guns where you get to see the scope view) and the horribly addictive driving mode. Fallout 3 just took the most advanced first-person shooter engine (which also had a 3rd person view) and revamped the story so it could be told from the point of view of the character you are playing. Not really too much of a difference - loyal GTA fans complained that their own game engine change ruined the old school arcade game quality but grew to love playing in the whole new playground which not only allowed you to play the core game but added freeplay as well and had tons of secrets and easter eggs built into it.
I'm just starting to play around with the game myself but I am having that same feeling all over again when I picked up GTA3 for the first time..
- CQ
Quote from: Talavar on October 29, 2008, 11:17:42 PM
I'm also annoyed that the gaming media is using this as another opportunity to show how irrelevent they are - Fallout 3 has already received a bunch of perfect scores. No matter how good a game is, none of them are perfect. And how many games receive these sort of masturbatory reviews at release, only to be criticized later when an expansion or sequel comes out to improve upon that perfection? It's not a low number these days.
Every major gaming site has 9+ reviews up for sale. Which really blows and makes them lose all credibility.
Feel free to be annoyed. Me? I'm just happy to have another installment to the Fallout series, be it a "true" sequel or not. I never felt that after a 10 year gap (during which most of the turn based commercial releases dried up) a Fallout 3 using it's predecessor's engine/gameplay would likely resurface. True, those are two of the best games ever and rank up there with my all time favorite, X-com:UFO Defense. Unfortunately, those styles of games don't seem marketable today, meaning not likely to be made. I'm looking forward to playing what looks to be the true heir to Fallout 2, just as GTA3 replaced GTA2 (as posted earlier). I like the idea of being able to see my beloved Post-Apocalyptic America from the first person point of view as if seen by my own eyes.
As for the press? Well, maybe they hit the nail on the head, and this is truly a great game. After seeing the amount of hype and praise they lavish on other titles, do we expect this to be different. I do what most other gamers do, and take them for what they're worth...someone else's $0.02.
I'm not quite so hardcore that I think a Fallout game needs to be turn-based (though I would like it to be), but it needs to be a serious RPG, not an FPS with RPG elements.
Thats the fundamental problem -- is what defines a "serious" RPG...
There were people that considered Diablo an RPG.
And I don't necessarily accept that Fallout 3 is a FPS with RPG elements. In my mind its a FPRPG.
Like was mentioned earlier its much more in the Sandbox GTA style of gaming. While that may cut down on what some would consider RPG game mechanics in some sense, it also opens up a lot of other immersive RPG stuff that a 2d top down turn based game cant be.
But its all just an issue of personal preference.
Its a fallout game as far as Im concerned, and one that thus far I find to be a lot of fun (all the over-hyping notwithstanding).
And Liam Neeson is my dad...
Quote from: Talavar on October 30, 2008, 11:29:59 AM
I'm not quite so hardcore that I think a Fallout game needs to be turn-based (though I would like it to be), but it needs to be a serious RPG, not an FPS with RPG elements.
I'd actually prefer the turn-based which is why the VATS game mechanic looks appealing to me. I'm hoping that the RPG elements live up to its ancestry. In full disclosure, I've yet to play the game...it's still in the shiny plastic wrapper. Unfortunately, due to some family obligations, I probably won't get a chance to check it out for awhile. In any event, I'm just giving Fallout 3 a chance, as everything I've seen, heard, and read seems to back up that it's a great game.
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on October 30, 2008, 12:26:44 PM
And Liam Neeson is my dad...
Well you're scarcely an unbiased critic then are you, young Master Neeson... :P
Actually I'm very interested in this; from all I've heard it does sound like an Oblivion type game in a Fallout type setting, only with the bad elements of Oblivion removed. Which is very nice.
But there are Just Too Many Good New Games being released these days!
Quote from: JeyNyce on July 06, 2007, 09:50:39 AM
I really want to kick myself, because I saw Fallout 1 & 2 on sale for $9.99 and I didn't pick it up. Now I can't find either game. :doh:
1, 2 and Tactics are also available on Good Old Games (http://gog.com). No-DRM downloads for 6$ each. Bough the second game there recently.
Got it for the 360. It's been plenty of fun. Personally, I prefer 3rd person shooting games (I like seeing my character/costumes, etc.) but I get a taste of that in the slow-mo shot sequences.
Quote from: Tortuga on October 30, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
Got it for the 360. It's been plenty of fun. Personally, I prefer 3rd person shooting games (I like seeing my character/costumes, etc.) but I get a taste of that in the slow-mo shot sequences.
If you click middle mouse you go into third person, and they do the over the shoulder off to one side style that is popular in 3rd person shooters. Loving it so far, disagreeing massively with all the people who hate the new FPS style of gameplay and this is coming from somebody who finished 1, 2 AND tactics. Then again I do write game criticism so maybe I'm part of the fan hating media...
I figured I'd post this in here.
GameTap is now offering Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics for free, that's right, zero dollars. Check it out.
I'm afraid you're mistaken there.
You can play 1 for free, if you download their player. You can't actually download the game, but at least you can play it.
2 you can play only if you are paying for their service. Not a bad deal, but still not free.
Tactics isn't even available yet, but probably will be the same thing as 2.
Unless there's some special promotional link you're not sharing with us.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on November 02, 2008, 12:12:15 PM
I'm afraid you're mistaken there.
You can play 1 for free, if you download their player. You can't actually download the game, but at least you can play it.
2 you can play only if you are paying for their service. Not a bad deal, but still not free.
Tactics isn't even available yet, but probably will be the same thing as 2.
Unless there's some special promotional link you're not sharing with us.
Yes this actually. I failed and I'm sorry. When I read it from an article link, it looked like it said that all three were out, so I downloaded 1 and didn't really investigate much further.
For those complaining...
[spoiler]Me and Eugene would like a word with you
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Yes...I am loving this game as much as I loved the first two and Tactics. The only Fallout game so far that has not sucked me in like a tornado was the Xbox one of whose name should never be spoken.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on November 02, 2008, 12:12:15 PM
I'm afraid you're mistaken there.
You can play 1 for free, if you download their player. You can't actually download the game, but at least you can play it.
2 you can play only if you are paying for their service. Not a bad deal, but still not free.
Tactics isn't even available yet, but probably will be the same thing as 2.
Unless there's some special promotional link you're not sharing with us.
Even better, if you go to www.gog.com (Good Old Games) you can get both for $5.99 each (DRM Free) plus extras. They also have games like earth worm jim.
Quote from: Epimethee on October 30, 2008, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: JeyNyce on July 06, 2007, 09:50:39 AM
I really want to kick myself, because I saw Fallout 1 & 2 on sale for $9.99 and I didn't pick it up. Now I can't find either game. :doh:
1, 2 and Tactics are also available on Good Old Games (http://gog.com). No-DRM downloads for 6$ each. Bough the second game there recently.
Quote from: JeyNyce on November 04, 2008, 06:19:00 AM
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on November 02, 2008, 12:12:15 PM
I'm afraid you're mistaken there.
You can play 1 for free, if you download their player. You can't actually download the game, but at least you can play it.
2 you can play only if you are paying for their service. Not a bad deal, but still not free.
Tactics isn't even available yet, but probably will be the same thing as 2.
Unless there's some special promotional link you're not sharing with us.
Even better, if you go to www.gog.com (Good Old Games) you can get both for $5.99 each (DRM Free) plus extras. They also have games like earth worm jim.
Can't find my Fallout 2 disc (box and manual still present...hmm) so I might have to shell out the $6. But, alas, I picked up Fallout 3 for the 360, and have no time to play it :(
to be pedantic, its based in the fallout universe and set 30 years after the last game, involving story elemnts used in the last game.
Quote
sequel
Noun
1. a novel, play, or film that continues the story of an earlier one
2. anything that happens after or as a result of something else: there was an amusing sequel to this incident [Latin sequi to follow]
wether the gameplay is different or not is irrelevant, it's a continuation of the story, aka, a sequal.
and no matter which way you spin it, fallout 3 = win
Seeing that the definition itself only specifically applies to novels, plays, and films, it is irrelvant.
That being said, glad you enjoy it, but I don't like what I've seen of it as well. I want my Fallout 3 tactical RPG game. In other words a real sequel, not this spin off pretending to be a sequel.
really? You can't possibly keep arguing this sequel thing. You may not like the new gameplay or whateverage, but it's a continuation of a story previously told. Sequel applies directly TO the "story" or events that took place...not the mechanics. It's a blanket term that applies to all media that evolves writing/story telling functions. Gravy.
This is typically why words have more than one definition to cover broad usage. Otherwise games and books that serve as sequels to movies would need new names altogether and you can't argue that a game functions similarly to a movie. Though, the term has been used to classify a series of games and not so much the story as is the case for MP shooters like...Quake. ^_^
Actually, form what I understand, it actually doesn't continue the actual storyline, just adds a new one in the same world.
The fact is, it's a completely different kind of game, which to me means it's a spin off. Define the words how you like, most sequals do not throw away the gameplay of the previous one and do something completely different.
Ladies and gentlemen if you watch to your left you will see them coming around again for another pass.
.....VROOM....
And there they go.
Yeah, I'm removing myself from the discussion. You already know my opinion and I shouldn't have brought it up again.
I don't know anything at all about this series but was looking at this one and thinking it looked very interesting. Do I have to be versed in the last two installments or not to really enjoy Fallout 3?
QuoteDo I have to be versed in the last two installments or not to really enjoy Fallout 3?
Nope.
Here's a quick question for all of you Fallout 3 Vets...
Is this worth a rent or a purchase?
-MJB
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on November 08, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
QuoteDo I have to be versed in the last two installments or not to really enjoy Fallout 3?
Nope.
But you will enjoy it more if you know the lore.
Quote from: MJB on November 09, 2008, 01:43:31 AM
Here's a quick question for all of you Fallout 3 Vets...
Is this worth a rent or a purchase?
-MJB
I'd say buy it, but I plan on modding up a storm with it on PC, and that reason doesn't really apply to consoles. You could rent it and beat it in a few days if you were so inclined, the ending sort of goes along at a breakneck pace (but is cool as all get out).
EDIT: To clarify, the events leading up to the ending are cool, the ending itself is a dud, and very non-typical of other fallout games, not even keeping the same format :verf I use the Verfall emote to show that the poor ending sequence made my eyes bleed out of rage.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on November 08, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
Actually, form what I understand, it actually doesn't continue the actual storyline, just adds a new one in the same world.
I thought by mentioning that it used elements from the last game and being set 30 years after the last implied it was a continuation, my mistake, i'll explain further for you next time >_>
and that quote was taken from a dictionary, i'm fairly certain it could be argued that computer games as a genre could be included as it is another media of telling a story, calling it invalid ased on the fact it dousnt say games in the quote is pretty close minded...
Quote from: captmorgan72 on November 08, 2008, 08:51:43 PM
I don't know anything at all about this series but was looking at this one and thinking it looked very interesting. Do I have to be versed in the last two installments or not to really enjoy Fallout 3?
In fact, it's probably better if you aren't.
As I understand it, the storyline of Fallout 3 is not a sequel to those of Fallout 1 & 2. It shares the setting, but is an unrelated story that is not a continuation. This is only from what I've read and heard though; maybe there is some connection to the original Vault Dweller or his descendants that I'm unaware of.
Quote from: MJB on November 09, 2008, 01:43:31 AM
Here's a quick question for all of you Fallout 3 Vets...
Is this worth a rent or a purchase?
-MJB
Tough call. It's definitely rentable in that it's a great game in it's own merit, but can be completed fairly quickly (MQ is 12-20 hours). It's worth owning for the replay value. You can disregard the MQ and just enjoy the post-apocalyptic Washington area. There's a possibility of DLC for consoles and of course the mods will extend the life of the PC version, hopefully, indefinitely.
Me, my PC is too old for it, so I settled with the xbox360 version, and have been enjoying it immensely. I'll probably look into upgrading once some serious mods come out, but it's just too nice of a game for me to pass up at the moment.
And for those that want a true tactical version, modders might be able to eventually come up with a more involved VATS mode (the limited turn-based mode).
People have been talking about how you can hammer though the main Story pretty quickly (and I know a few who have) but that misses a lot of the fun stuff. I've been alternating between main story missions and some of the side quests and there is a lot to do. I also like how most of the side quests are kind of morally linked to each other and the choices you make are often dependent on some of the missions you have done beforehand. Without going into spoilers there were a couple of missions that I did in a certain order, whereas a coworker who played the game did them in a different order. As a result of that, The way he chose to accomplish a mission was totally different than mine, yet each of us felt we had done the "right" thing.
That's the kind of stuff I liked.
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I don't know anything at all about this series but was looking at this one and thinking it looked very interesting. Do I have to be versed in the last two installments or not to really enjoy Fallout 3?
In fact, it's probably better if you aren't.
As I understand it, the storyline of Fallout 3 is not a sequel to those of Fallout 1 & 2. It shares the setting, but is an unrelated story that is not a continuation. This is only from what I've read and heard though; maybe there is some connection to the original Vault Dweller or his descendants that I'm unaware of.
There is no real connection to the descendants of the original Vault Dweller, though, ye do get to wear his original Vault suit and ye do run into quite a few of the people and hera about other people that played major roles in the first two games. So it's kinda a continuation of the setting and universe but not of the Vault Dweller storyline.
And seriosly I think the system is a huge improvement over the tactical one, and I have played a TON of tactical shooters (1,2,tactics,x-com,jagged alliance, shadow watch) I always felt that the system for Fallout was way off balance, for the first half of the game was taking turns with raiders shooting at each other with neither ever hitting, the second half of the game was instantly pulverizing every foe you ran into. The sequel lacks very little of the charm but feels like a much better game.
The one thing I was afraid of was bugs and I already ran into a few. First I'm getting a lot of crashes during load screens but also there was one town where I was supposed to repair some robots and they where simply not there. Good news is that I was not the first so I found a wiki that said how to generate those robots via debug and I got through the quest.
Also I cant wait to see the mods! I'm thinking of actually getting into this one and putting together an open ended spin off that lets you start as either a raider, tribal, wastelander or vault dweller, each with a starting Perk and narrative hook.
Also I always wanted to do a Latin America post apocalyptic revolution mod for half life with 90's ethnopunk as the radio track and if I can create radio tracks I might finally put it together in half life 3.
for random fun i've been recreating some of the guns in secondlife, once I have a small collection i'll post some pics somewhere, lol
I like it.
This game is awesome to the max. :D
I hate comparing games to each other, but how does the graphics measure up to Gears of War 2? I'm about half way into Gears and the graphics are blowing me away. I defiantly love the post nuclear war theme though, been looking at getting this one for awhile now.
I'm about halfway through the game. Pretty fun. I know I'm missing lots of random buildings and things, but I don't want to waste my precious ammo on random encounters. Still, very good game even if it does crash quite a bit.
One thing to note is that when you finish the main quest, the game is basically over...
You don't jump back into the world to finish stuff it's just -- the end.
So I saved often and when I finished the main story, I reloaded a game just prior to the last mission and went back to explore all the side quests and stuff... and there is still A LOT of stuff that I'm still finding and exploring. Its huge...
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on November 29, 2008, 02:33:54 PM
One thing to note is that when you finish the main quest, the game is basically over...
You don't jump back into the world to finish stuff it's just -- the end.
So I saved often and when I finished the main story, I reloaded a game just prior to the last mission and went back to explore all the side quests and stuff... and there is still A LOT of stuff that I'm still finding and exploring. Its huge...
Yes, if you only do the main quest you are probably only seeing 1/4 or less of the 'world'. I think it's best played as an exploration first, then do the main quest when you've seen enough apocalyphria (ha! I made up a new word).
I ignored the main quest for the longest time and when I finished the game I still hadent done a ton of stuff you can do. It's amazingly deep, although I just dont like that ending. Oh well, all more the reason to mod, no?
While I myself have the 360 version, when it drops down in price with the inevitable GOTY version for PC I may pick it up cause the Editor tools are now available.
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Check out my first mod!
It doubles the rad values and health of most foods. Canned foods now provide more healing too but cost more. Lastly purified water reduces your rad count by 10.
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The Geck is finally out..go get it...mod to ye delight...do it! DO IT!!!! DO IT!!!!
My laptop can't handle fallout 3 and i don't wanna purchase a new desktop right now. Anyone thing going old skool with Fallout 2 is good?
Sure, although be warned that it is pretty old at this point. You can get it from good old games or gametap for cheap and with little hassle.
check it out!
4 new foods
1 new alcohol
3 new chems
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1995