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Title: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Midnite on July 10, 2008, 06:39:43 PM
Trailer (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19869)
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Silver Shocker on July 11, 2008, 12:29:56 AM
YAY! It's finally coming out! Now they just need to find a way to make a third game and I'll be happy.

*please let it not suck please let it not suck*

Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: lugaru on July 11, 2008, 04:56:32 AM
looks violently poetic, which is all I would expect since Max Payne was equal parts that and campy fun.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: UnkoMan on July 11, 2008, 06:55:10 AM
While I do hope they use some of the odder meta stuff that crept in there, and the nordic references, and wouldn't mind if Address Unknown was playing in the background... I wonder what's up with all those angels? Those evil, evil angels.

Does anybody have any info on the plot?
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: zuludelta on July 12, 2008, 11:17:17 AM
Hmmm... I wonder if they'll get Kathy Tong to play Mona Sax, like she did in the second video-game. 
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Uncle Yuan on July 12, 2008, 11:34:12 AM
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 11, 2008, 06:55:10 AM

Does anybody have any info on the plot?

No idea, but the trailer looks a horrid mish-mash.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Spam on July 13, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
I was actually sort of disappointed with the trailer... it looked too much like a Constantine rip-off (even which Constantine wasn't that great, IMO). Max Payne isn't really supposed to deal with angels and whatnot, it's a love-murder-noir revenge story about a former cop who's lost his edge after his wife and young child got murdered. The trailer made me sad, as it sort of looked like they were going for whatever the angels were involved in the story. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe the angels could be a defining plot twist or something, I don't know. But it doesn't look like Max Payne... it looks more like a Max Hollywood Ripoff. Which makes me angry, because I loved the games.

*sigh*

FORIAMSPAM!
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Podmark on July 13, 2008, 11:13:57 AM
Quote from: zuludelta on July 12, 2008, 11:17:17 AM
Hmmm... I wonder if they'll get Kathy Tong to play Mona Sax, like she did in the second video-game. 

Wikipedia lists Mila Kunis as Mona Sax. Which if its true is an interesting choice.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: zuludelta on July 13, 2008, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 11, 2008, 06:55:10 AMI wonder what's up with all those angels? Those evil, evil angels.

Quote from: Spam on July 13, 2008, 10:53:45 AMThe trailer made me sad, as it sort of looked like they were going for whatever the angels were involved in the story. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe the angels could be a defining plot twist or something, I don't know.

I'm thinking those aren't angels at all, but Valkyries (the games, especially the first one, had a lot of Nordic themes). Maybe they're a graphic representation of the effects of Valkyr (the drug from the first game).
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: lugaru on July 14, 2008, 04:14:04 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking the angels are like in Baron Munchousen, a constant metaphor for death on the dudes heals with an awesome visual representation. Then again they had a lot of god and devil mumbo jumbo so maybe Spam is right and it has some heaven vs hell plot point which I guess would be unecesary even if they do a decent job with it.

In the end it's a movie of a game that was trying to be a movie (old Jon Woo movies) so I'm still curious.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Midnite on September 28, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
Trailer #2 (http://kotaku.com/5055101/still-sceptical-about-the-whole-max-payne-movie-thing)
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Figure Fan on September 28, 2008, 08:12:28 PM
Hm

Looks kind of interesting. I loved the story from the games. Hopefully it remains in tact somewhat.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Silver Shocker on September 28, 2008, 09:47:23 PM
The first trailer (and tv spots that are playing right now) didn't really look like Max Payne, but I was pretty impressed with this new one. It makes it seem much more in fitting with the storytelling style of the game itself (which was a big part of the appeal of it to me). If the new trailer is any indication, the movie should be better than I previously expected. 
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: BWPS on September 29, 2008, 08:11:52 AM
I'm sure that the monsters were just a vision or metaphor or something in one scene, it seems to be a PG-13 version of the game's plot for the most part.

Which sucked, hard. Max Payne was a fun game with a boring cop story that essentially was a way to show off their bullet time. I'd LOVE to see a movie with a bunch of beasties and magic and gun-fights. If they do make it a generic revenge story, I want it to be rated R because that movie needs the shotguns to the face. I like Mark Wahlberg and this does look cool (even though I think the previews are misleading), but the less they take from the game, the better.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Silver Shocker on September 30, 2008, 03:45:40 AM
Well I respectfully disagree. I think the Max Payne games had some of the best stories in a action game, FPS, third person shooter, these games arn`t always very big on the storyline. But Max Payne, I thought the story was fantastic. It had that gritty, hard boiled cop type feel (and I`m not even a fan of that genre), it had a sly sense of humor--it was fricking poetic. I`d read complaints by people (I`m looking at you, Brian Clevinger) that getting to hear the hero in a game talk ruins him--Max Payne is a lead character you don`t mind listening to for hours. My memory is a bit foggy but I seem to recall the second game had the better storyline. In fact I always hoped they`d make a third game, but was also worried it`d be terrible, because they`d probably have to make a all-new cast of characters other than Max himself and make up a brand new plot that had nothing to do with the first two.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: BentonGrey on September 30, 2008, 12:53:39 PM
Color me curious, but concerned by the rating.  A Max Payne story NEEDS to be R.  It is a violent story, and I just have a bad feeling that we'll see more of the cut-to-the-bone type of filmaking that showed up in DK in their desperate reach for PG.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: GogglesPizanno on September 30, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
I've heard Wahlberg comment that it was definitely shot and intended as an R movie...
And I totally agree that the game, while simplistic in plot, really nailed the tone and feel of a great modern day Noir...and made the story stuff really stand out to me.

My only gripe is that I think they may be going a bit heavy on the angels/demons imagery in the marketing making it look more like Constantine when that is nothing at all what it is...
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: bat1987 on September 30, 2008, 03:31:53 PM
They seem to be heading in the right direction. Looking forward to seeing this, really.

Although I`m not too fond of Wahlberg`s voice in the trailer.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: UnkoMan on October 01, 2008, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on September 30, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
I've heard Wahlberg comment that it was definitely shot and intended as an R movie...

I read the opposite. That the director intended for it to be PG-13 from the start... BUT, he had seen what they were doing with the Dark Knight and was going for something like that. Also, that the raters were first thinking about giving it an R, but he caused stir to get the PG-13. Oh, here we go (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54606). And then there's a link to an interview in that article, for anybody interested.

But... yeah. They should stop pushing this angel/valkyrie thing. Even if it does turn out to be metaphorical or a hallucination brought on by drugs, it's still totally unneeded. What's wrong with a good, simple pulp revenge story, if you tell it right and can pack it with emotion?

And as I said before, they DEFINATELY need to get all those clever references and stuff in there. That, or just make an Address Unknown series.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: TheMarvell on October 04, 2008, 04:48:04 PM
this seems like it will probably be another case of "bad, but somewhat tolerable" video game movie, probably along the same lines as Doom, where the movie essentially has little to nothing to do with the game, changing elements for absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: Silver Shocker on October 05, 2008, 03:03:44 PM
I think this might be a case where a good adaption might not be a good movie. In a way it makes me wonder which I'd actually prefer it to be. Because if it's a great adaption for the people who know the game but is pretty much inaccessible for anyone else,  it's probably going to do horribly financially even if it's "good". Which would presumably mean no more Max Payne and more of those movies we hate and wish Hollywood would stop making (to be fair, those kind of movies will almost certainly keep coming no matter what). But if it's horrible (to those familiar with the games) and sells well, then a sequel is probably more likely, and then there's a chance of the sequel being better due to a director/script that is more faithful to the games, is better in general, or the first director saying (alright, we made the money, now let's make the version the fans of the games will like."

Of course, I'm just rambling on. I don't take any of what I just said all that seriously, and I obviously don't know that much about how the movie industry really works. I'm just trying to wrap my mind around the whole thing from someone who always wanted to see them make a movie of the game going back to years ago when it was just a rumor/"thinking about it".
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: bat1987 on October 30, 2008, 08:28:11 AM
Watched the movie last night.
[spoiler]
First impressions:
Like marvell said it`s bad but tolerable.
The movie is loosely based on the first game, key characters are all in the movie.
In my opinion its not as bad as some of the critiques I`ve read. I think they captured the atmosphere of the game quite well. Suprisingly there are not many bullet time scenes. The after credit scene hints at possible sequel.
All in all its one of those `meh` movies.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Max Payne: The Movie
Post by: GogglesPizanno on November 03, 2008, 12:09:19 AM
I actually liked Noir vibe of the film (I'm a fan of noir and love the darker themed crime films) but after the first 30 minutes of setup... it just failed to go anywhere. It was revenge movie with no real payoff, an action movie with too little action to late, a noir movie that got the atmosphere right but not much else. And even though I like Mila Kunis, who in their right mind thought she could pull off a Russian mobster assasin?