So this movie set up for 2011 is set to be a period peice set in WWII. What type of story would you want them to tell? Do you think it will be an origin story or his last WWII story riding the rocket into the atlantic? Who would you like to see be the Captain and do you think it could/should/would contain Hitler or just be the Red Skull?
I assume it will begin with his origin and end with him getting frozen. If so, I'd like to see Bucky in it, and the Red Skull fits perfectly as the main villain.
I recently heard that Leo DeCaprio is taking the role, however that is just speculation.
DeCaprio would be a terrible choice for Cap, even though he's become a solid actor in the last few years, he simply doesn't have the look, or especially the voice for the part. I don't believe Marvel is silly enough to choose him, rumors aside, and they have done a good enough job on their first too movies for me to extend them a fair amount of credit. It should definitely have the Skull as the main villain....I mean, is there even any point in discussing that point? ;)
QuoteIt should definitely have the Skull as the main villain....I mean, is there even any point in discussing that point?
Nope. Not really.
The last casting rumor I heard was that Matthew McConaughey was being considered.
-MJB
Quote from: MJB on June 21, 2008, 08:38:54 PM
The last casting rumor I heard was that Matthew McConaughey was being considered.
-MJB
It was confirmed that he was definitely NOT being considered. Thank god, I would have never stopped whining. I have no idea who would be a good actor to play Steve Rogers, though. I guess it's near impossible to find someone who is really really swole but also a good actor... I'm really worried that they'll get someone terrible, like a wrester, or someone small, like a Tobey McGuire.
I think this has the potential to be the sweetest movie ever made. I really think considering Ed Brubaker to help write a screenplay would be the best idea ever. I love his Captain America, especially the WWII flashback parts. Assassin-style Bucky would be really cool to see as well, but I'd understand if they decided to exclude him.
Someone in a sci-fi board I read said that Jamie Bamber (Captain Lee 'Apollo' Adama from Battlestar Galactica) would be a good Captain America since he has shown quite a range and has played military characters many times before. I think they should have another actor who looks like Jamie but in his early twenties and quite thin to play the pre-enhanced Steve during the credit sequence (so it can be a quick glimpse before he dawns his famous uniform) and then show like old war footage and newspaper clippings of Cap's career fighting in the war before the main film begins.. maybe even throw in fuzzy photos of him with Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos and The Invaders just as an easter egg (they don't have to show faces just a hint of the costumes/uniforms - well, except for Fury of course).
Hmmm.. come to think of it.. Tahmoh Penikett (Lt. Karl 'Helo' Agathon) could also pull off the role since he has that "superhero chin" as well as being able to pull off being a military man with some attitude.
- CrimsonQuill
Seems like there ought to be a fair number actors out there who have the right look, which is that they're basically clean-cut and look like they can bench their weight. Who was that guy who was Buffy's boyfriend when she was teamed with and fighting with the initiative? Marc Blucas? Anyway, there should be plenty of options.
The problem in casting may crop up if they are determined to have a big name for the heroes in each of the new Marvel Studios movies. There is obvious appeal to that and it's worked well so far. Obviously, RDJr is a smash as Iron Man, Norton worked well as the Hulk, and Toby Maguire was good as Spider-Man. I would even say that most of their known X-Men picks were pretty good, even if I had mixed reactions to some of the movies. Of course, there were some movies where a big name didn't help. I am thinking of Daredevil here, though I don't know that was Affleck's fault.
Even if they can find a well-known actor for each role, a serious future downside is that these big name actors get busy, so doing cross-over and team movies can be... complicated. Not to mention potentially expensive. And there are egos...
what about Matthew Fox from Lost, and more recently Speed Racer? He could be a good choice me thinks.
How old is Cap supposed to be when he gets the serum in WW2?
It's never really specified in the comics, but the average age of WWII soldiers was about 26. I always imagined him in his early-to-mid 20s when he got super soldiered. And assuming 3-4 years of war, in his late 20 when he got frozen.
I've heard Leonardo DiCaprio has been rumored to be up for the role. Captain America is my favorite Marvel hero and I don't like DiCaprio or feel he would even be right for the part of Bucky, let alone Cap, so here's hoping that's not true or that he gets an injury that forces him to drop out if he actually is cast in the part.
If anyone follows wrestling, Cap should be someone around the same size as Ken Kennedy, but with more muscle definition. Kennedy is an inch or two too short and about 5 lbs heavier than Cap is supposed to be.
I'm actually liking the BSG choices that were mentioned above and I think Jamie Bamber's original hair color is blonde as well. If they were going to go with someone big named right now all my sleep deprived brain can come up with is Matt Damon since he can poull off being an action star quite believably with his Bourne series of movies.
We definitely need someone who is ACTUALLY blond.
why does hair color really matter?
Ha, 'cause movie studios can take a guy with blond hair and make him seem like he's got black hair (see Punisher), but it doesn't work so well the other way around....the eyebrows give them away, even if the hair is perfect. It just ends up looking weird.
Thats interesting about Kennedy GM, How tall is he? He always looked like a relatively tall person. I do agree with Benton about the hair color issue. He should be relatively close to blonde as a natural color to make him look better depending on how much face time we see as Steve Rogers. Depending on that we may get say, a smaller actor pre serum who is blonde and then if like 90% or more is just masked then you could get away with some other types of hair.
What are your opinions on the costume? Would you rather see the timely comics WWII costume or would you rather see something like the ultimate costume where its kind of a mix between a G.I. uniform and a costume?
Also who would you like to see as the Skull? Should his face be prosthetic or would you rather see something CGI?
I definitely want his classic costume, but I'd rather see his classic (Avengers era) costume used for both WWII and modern scenes, as the round shield is just SOOOO iconic.
As far as the Skull, I'd definitely like it to prosthetic.
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on June 22, 2008, 12:23:20 PM
Thats interesting about Kennedy GM, How tall is he? He always looked like a relatively tall person. I do agree with Benton about the hair color issue. He should be relatively close to blonde as a natural color to make him look better depending on how much face time we see as Steve Rogers. Depending on that we may get say, a smaller actor pre serum who is blonde and then if like 90% or more is just masked then you could get away with some other types of hair.
What are your opinions on the costume? Would you rather see the timely comics WWII costume or would you rather see something like the ultimate costume where its kind of a mix between a G.I. uniform and a costume?
Also who would you like to see as the Skull? Should his face be prosthetic or would you rather see something CGI?
According to Wikipedia, Kennedy is 6'2".
For Cap's costume, I want the classic look, not the costume-meets uniform look of the Ultimate universe character.
The godawful movie made back in the 1990s (with an Italian Red Skull!) had Cap in a spandex costume and actually had the ears molded onto the mask. If they have to have Cap's ears covered to make the mask work, so be it, but I'd rather they get the outfit right and no stupid spandex or leather (beyond the gloves and boots which ARE supposed to be leather, and maybe the stars and stripes).
The Red Skull's appearance should be prosthetic, with maybe some cgi assistance. Someone who either is German or can at least do a decent German accent should be cast as the Red Skull.
my thoughts are make him blonde because he was blonde.blonde superman?nope!blonde batman?nope!if they want to stay true to the characters and not let hollywood screw it up make steve blonde.who to play cap?casting call...bring in someone totally new.i'm sure theres alot of guys out there that would love to be CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!did anyone ever read the 4 part mini series of the adventures of captain america?that would be an awsome story for a movie.if done right a cap movie could have that indiana jones thrill a-minute cliffhanger feel to it.lastly....bring back steve rogers; the one-and-only captain america!
You know, the costume itself needs to be scalemail, and it would look MUCH better than that terrible film.
I've always loved the new "ultimate" style of real world costumes they have been using for the movies lately but I have to agree I want the classic Captain costume with the wings something like http://www.leconcombre.com/serials/CapAmerica/captainamerica-No1.jpg
The sheild I can go either way on but like Benton said the round sheild is iconic so I am sure they will use it no matter the style of costume, besides if they used the old sheild I doubt he would be able to throw it around.
I remember that movie with the italian redskull. When I first saw it I was like 12 or something and didnt think it was too bad. For the time the costume wasnt too horrible either. I wouldn't be able to sit through it now but for the time and my age range it wasnt bad.
Herodad its not so much making him blonde as with having the actor be a natural blonde instead of a dye job. Also this will be a WWII period peice so it will be Steve Rogers as Cap. You know thinking about this I really hope they at least make a referance to Isiah Bradley in it. Now when you say totally new do you mean a non-actor who looks the part like what they want to do with the new Conan movie? or do you mean someone who is a little less well known such as say a person from a T.V. series or a wrestler or an athelete or theater that isnt "big hollywood"?
Can the new James Bond guy do a German Accent? I think he would be interesting
Quote from: BentonGrey on June 22, 2008, 01:18:17 PM
You know, the costume itself needs to be scalemail, and it would look MUCH better than that terrible film.
Chainmail, not scalemail. Someone got it wrong and a lot of artists have followed suit. What's worse is a lot of the arists draw it like the armor is over the shirt, while its supposed to be underneath. The sturdier mask and utility belt I can live with (the belt makes a lot of sense, actually), but the scalemail look sucks.
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Brad Pitt.
Yeah I like him and think je would be perfect.
Ok, that could work.
that could be interesting actually. Have his hair relatively short. haha it would be great for him and norton to get into it in the Avenger's movie
Not sure if this has been discussed but this movie is to be filmed at the same time as an Avengers movie, which is to be released the following month.
However, I'm trying to think in considerations to budget and I don't imagine they'd get someone who'd come with a highend pricetag like a Brad Pitt or LDC. An interesting idea would be someone like Channing Tatem(Duke-G.I.J.O.E., Stop-Loss, She's the Man). He buffed out a bit to be Duke and I don't think they'd want to go for an older person. They'd want someone younger, fresh-faced and of course someone who can act. Someone else I'd think about(personally) would be Eric Johnson(Flash Gordon, Smallville) if he buffs up a bit. But it's a face like that I'd go for. Younger, more believeable and fresher.
I'd imagine with the direction of the last two Marvel films, they're going to be fiercely following the Ultimate's line, which ain't a bad idea. I'm confident this will have a similar look to the early captain in the Ultimates. I'd like to see a film follow a story of the development of the serum, Steve Rogers before and afterwards and I'd imagine it being a mix of comic book action(the action shown with Roth's character in the Hulk was amazing) and war movie. Sound pretty entertaining to me.
Actually, anyone who could pull Duke off probably wouldn't be a bad choice for Cap. At any rate, that's the right type of actor.
They've stated that they don't want super big names. Robert Downey was an unplanned exception, but from what I've heard, a good one.
At any rate, they badly need to avoid the X-men problem by making sure their cast doesn't get too expensive on them.
actually, i don't know that Pitt would have THAT high of a price tag for a Captain America flick. I recall a few years back reading that Pitt was actually interested in doing the role. I would wager that he would take a pay cut if the script was good.
Even so, it would be higher than a lesser actor, and I would like to bet that the price would suddenly get much higher for later films.
I don't know what these guys are willing to work with, pay-wise, when they like a character and like a script, but it seems like Pitt is in a more rarefied crowd as a box office draw than even RDJr and Edward Norton. And I consider both of the latter to be excellent actors and big names (of about equal stature) in their own rights.
Also, I don't know how this would translate into ticket sales for a comic book movie, but there has to be a certain beefcake factor to Brad Pitt that the others don't quite have. When Troy came out a few years back, a few female friends of mine were psyched to see it, which was a little surprising to me since it's a movie largely centered around a war and featured highly cinematic and violent battle scenes. When I asked about their enthusiasm, there was no hesitation, "A tan, oiled Brat Pitt strutting around shirtless? Of course we're going to see it." I don't know what the demographic profiles of the Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk movies have been, but I'm sure Marvel would be happy to attract a large female audience to a comic book movie.
Anyway, I would be happy if they got someone like Brad Pitt to sign on to do a few movies as Cap, even though I'm am not sure he's really in the right age range for a movie based on Cap's early career. And, he would be pushing fifty (and normal human fifty, not frozen-in-ice fifty) by the time a movie could come out.
BTW, they can make any actor's hair (and eyebrows, etc.) believably blond. This is a big budget Hollywood movie - they have the technology to do a good dye job. :lol: You'd think no one liked Buffy as a blonde because SMG is a natural brunette. :rolleyes:
Anyway, no matter how they go here, I hope they find someone who can act. I don't want them to pick some wrestler or soap star who's never carried a movie on his own stumbling through Cap's dialog.
Another nod for a Brad Pitt is that he works very very well in ensemble movies. In spite his 'lead' role status... he can play well together with others. Money wise... I'ld see him signing a deal similar to his Ocean Eleven's cotract.. 10 mil up front with a cut on the back side. Plus with his 'kids'... I think he'd get a kick out of doing a movie like this. Age wise... he still looks 30 something and with the right make up... even younger than that. Even though Marvel may be going WWII... I think his 'look' would be about the right age. (The same with Thomas Jane)
Speaking of Ocean's Eleven (and sequels)... another person I wouldn't mind seeing is Matt Damon. He'd come at a nice price as well... but less than Brad and would still be a name that would bring in viewers. Him being a comicbook fan is a plus as well. He'd be better if they want to go with the young buck private Steve Rogers,
But if Marvel wants to go inexpensive with an actor in the lead role.. then Thomas Jane would be a good choice. He's familiar with Marvel and I don't blame him for his version of 'The Punisher' not being what many hoped it would. Though i liked him in the role and as an actor period.
Based on the trend of the current movies Ironman and Hulk... I'm sure Marvel is going to cast a name actor for the role. They won't go for a nobody.
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Now for Thor I have different feelings...
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Paul Levesque aka 'The Game'... Triple H :P
I honestly think Pitt could be a great choice. But honestly, how much good fortune can one man be given in one lifetime? Handsome, TWO hottie wives, a film carreer, and silky hair? Its just not fair.
I was just thinging. What about Mark Walberg? Since we're going action guys. Mark can act and I can see him going through ith this role. However, the hair color may be rough. Yay for dye. Maybe John Cena as a roided up super soldier Steve Rogers? I always thought those 2 looked similar.
Quote from: thanoson on June 23, 2008, 06:52:34 AM
I was just thinging. What about Mark Walberg? Since we're going action guys. Mark can act and I can see him going through ith this role. However, the hair color may be rough. Yay for dye. Maybe John Cena as a roided up super soldier Steve Rogers? I always thought those 2 looked similar.
heh-heh... as you posted this I was cropping a pic of ole' Marky Mark
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His hair naturally isn't to dark and could be lightened (if necessary). But otherwise he is another guy who can act and is very familiar with physically demanding roles.
i know I mentioned they are most prob going to go for a known actor... but I'll toss in another name to make my choices an even (???) five... Tahmoh Tenikett aka 'Helo' from Battlestar Galactica.
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Ok... I'm done before I get too carried away. But in order of preference
1. Brad Pitt
2. Thomas Jane
3. Mark Wahlberg
4. Matt Damon
5. Tahmoh Tenikett
Red Skull should be either Hugo Weaving or Daniel Craig.
Both would bring a good physical presence, and hugo weaving is comfortable under prosthetics.
edit: oh man, just saw on IMDB the new movie Hugo Weaving will be in.. The Wolfman, looks cool, great cast.
Brad Pitt would be a better choice for Hawkeye than Cap. I've heard some people suggest him as Thor, but I don't see why; he looks decent enough with long hair but they'd have to use CGI and camera tricks to make him look bigger than everyone else.
Matt Damon would be a good choice for Cap, I think.
My Cap movie would definately have the bulk of it set in WWII. We really need to get a feel of who this guy is, and why he's such a great addition to the Avengers. As has been stated, the Cap Movie is being released a month before the Avengers movie. Thus, the burden of the modern reveal can mostly be done there. In my opinion, the biggest hurdle of a Cap movie is getting him to the present time in the first movie. With another film following it this quickly, much of the transition can be done there.
I'd start it out with Cap on the scene, in the trenches, and newsreel stuff. Cut back to the war and meeting Bucky. He relates his origin to him. With the recent development of Buck being not the "Golly-gee" kid we knew in the 1940-60's, he can be a butt-stomper also in his own way. Occasional team-ups with Invaders would happen as missions overlap but usually just the 2 of them. Near the end, they stop the Red Skull and Zemo from launching their doomsday missile and Cap and Bucky get themselves frozen/blown up. Cut to Bruce Banner in the frozen north discovering the Cap-sicle (re: the scenes that were supposed to be in the Hulk movie, but without the suicide references). Cut to Cap waking up on the table, going nuts on the room, and Fury calming him down.
I would like to see Ult.Cap costume during WWII scenes, as they are way more believeable for that time period than a spandex costume...Perhaps a blend of costumes. I'd also like to see Bucky and cameos of the Invaders: Human Torch, Toro, Namor (set him up for the next Fantastic Four movie), Spitfire and Union Jack. I also would like to see an appearance by Sam Jackson as Sgt. Fury with some Howling Commandos.
I can live with Brad Pitt being Cap. He can play younger and war-grizzled, I'm thinking. He doesn't need to be as built and bulky as a pro-wrestler, like John Cena (who wouldn't be a bad choice-if he could act)
I wouldn't mind a Hitler appearance in conjunction with Red Skull arriving to save his Fuhrer, etc.
Sorry guys, i can't see Brad Pitt being Cap. He's too big of a star and it would take away from Cap. For example when you see Iron man and you see Robert Downey and the way he acts, you will believe that he is Tony Stark, with Brad it would be more like "that's Brad Pitt in a Cap outfit. I say get a not-so-well-known actor, (who can act) and let him be Cap.
Quote from: JeyNyce on June 23, 2008, 08:59:03 AM
Sorry guys, i can't see Brad Pitt being Cap. He's too big of a star and it would take away from Cap. For example when you see Iron man and you see Robert Downey and the way he acts, you will believe that he is Tony Stark, with Brad it would be more like "that's Brad Pitt in a Cap outfit. I say get a not-so-well-known actor, (who can act) and let him be Cap.
I never understood statements like that. After one good movie, wouldn't that be a problem for every actor and actress? That should never really be a problem that takes away from a movie unless the actor doesn't "act" very well. When I saw RDJ in the trailers of Ironman, I went, "hrm, RDJ" as I did with every other movie I've seen him in and he was a fairly big star back in the day before his drug problems got way out of hand. To use a more common, bigger named star, seeing (or hearing) Angelina in every other movie hasn't distracted me yet. Now...Keanu Reeves? :P
Jokes, jokes.
How about pro football player Brian Urlacher with a wig, if he can act?
There's such a thing as being too popular. The big name actors can basically pick and choose their projects. They might contract for a sequel or two, but after that you're going to have a harder time getting them back without throwing a lot of extra cash at them.
If Marvel wants a certain amount of crossover in their movies, having an "all-star" cast will make that more difficult and expensive.
I want them to find good actors who are actually fans of the character so they can do a good job of it. Then they'll be worth whatever they're paid and they'll make time to do it.
Cena would be very interesting and I would actually really like to see him in a Cap costume now. Do you think Vince would actually let him do something like that without being like an executive producer on the film?
Cena can't act. Don't mean to sound rude, but they need somebody with some experience and who is a fan of comic (Nick Cage is an exception to this rule)
Quote from: JeyNyce on June 23, 2008, 08:59:03 AM
Sorry guys, i can't see Brad Pitt being Cap. He's too big of a star and it would take away from Cap. For example when you see Iron man and you see Robert Downey and the way he acts, you will believe that he is Tony Stark, with Brad it would be more like "that's Brad Pitt in a Cap outfit. I say get a not-so-well-known actor, (who can act) and let him be Cap.
i couldn't disagree more. This is a problem for big name actors who can't...well... act... or should I say... they don't know how to let the character they are playing rise over thier own personalities. For instance... when I watch movies like Troy, Mr & Mrs Smith or Fight Club (among many others)..... I see strong characters. And they are strong because Brad Pitt actually can act..very well and not overwhelm the character with thier personality. Just like when I watch Tom Hanks in any roll.... I see the character because of his superior acting ability... not Tom Hanks.
However... some actors who can act but tend to put a bit too much of themselves into thier roles used to include actors like Jack Nicholson. Now he is the type of actor who no matter what role he plays... you see 'Jack'. Which brings to mind the first Batman movie. Michael Keaton was an 'A-list' megastar then.... but he played the role of Bruce Wayne /Batman well... you saw him in the movie and you thought 'Batman'. Jack on the other hand... you saw Jack playing the Joker..no matter how you looked at it or whether you thought his rendition was good or bad.... it was all Jack.
Brad is a very... very good actor... who happens to be a beef cake and can bring the type of charm and 'moxie' you'ld want from a Captain America.
Quote from: House Quake on June 23, 2008, 06:33:11 PM
Brad is a very... very good actor... who happens to be a beef cake and can bring the type of charm and 'moxie' you'ld want from a Captain America.
That's my problem with Brad Pitt. I just don't think he looks the part at all. Not gruff, not rough enough to pull off the
soldier part, which I think is crucial. He's too much of a pretty-boy to be someone to convey the type of dedication and drive someone like a Steve Rodgers character would. If I had to pick outside of my choice(Channing Tatum) and go with a bigger name, who can work well in an ensemble, who can be gritty, who can be a soldier with drive, emotion and pull off arse-kicking and make it look good, definitely I'd say Matt Damon.
How tall is Matt Damon?
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on June 23, 2008, 07:51:59 PM
Quote from: House Quake on June 23, 2008, 06:33:11 PM
Brad is a very... very good actor... who happens to be a beef cake and can bring the type of charm and 'moxie' you'ld want from a Captain America.
That's my problem with Brad Pitt. I just don't think he looks the part at all. Not gruff, not rough enough to pull off the soldier part, which I think is crucial. He's too much of a pretty-boy to be someone to convey the type of dedication and drive someone like a Steve Rodgers character would.
Me thinks you haven't seen any of these movies...
The Assassination of Jesse James...
Babel
Troy
Spy Game
Seven Years in Tibet
and Fight Club
I was thinking about the concerns some have expressed about actor salaries and such... and thought of something a few may not have considered.
Some of the actors who have been hired on to these movies have signed deals which will contract them for multiple films. Downey I'm almost certain is in for the duration already... thus no matter how much Ironman makes or it's sequel... he has already been paid...or his earnings are already set. Norton on the other hand... was contracted for the one film only... though he may do the rest still. The odd thing is that his co-star Liv Tyler is contracted for three movies already. Terrance Howard is also contracted if memory serves me right for multiple films.
What I'm getting at is that since Marvel is doing these movies in house... and if they are being smart and sticking to plan... they can contract the actors they wish prior to filming the Avengers and in most of these cases it will probably count as one of the movies towards some of the multi-film contracts.
Another aspect I read someone mention was a problem which derived from the X-Men franchise... ie people wanting more money to do sequels. I don't see that problem facing these set of movies if Marvel continues to get actors whose market value is already set. With the X-Men.. you had several actors who were virtual unknowns who became big primarily due to thier roles in the film. Hugh Jackman comes to mind first. So by not going the cheep route and hiring 'unknowns' to begin with... they can avoid a ballooning salary demand for the later films.
Ed Norton, Robert Downey Jr, Liv Tyler, Terrance Howard, Gweneth Paltrow, Jeff Bridges, Samuel Jackson, William Hurt, etc.... are all known commodities. Some of who have been in block busters before. Thier market values are pretty much set.
I'm pretty sure in RDJr's case that he is likely contracted for three films... Ironman, Ironman II and Avengers already... with considerations such as cameo appearances in the other films.
Which, as much as I like the idea, is another disadvantage to the really big names. They are harder to pin down for a three-picture (or whatever) movie deal. If Marvel wants to keep a consistent face for Cap for the next several years, they have to pick someone who is willing to do three movies over about five or six years. That's not likely to be someone like Brad Pit. It seems like Marvel may have tough choice between a top-tier A-lister and someone who is willing to hitch his wagon to Cap's horse for a fairly long time.
I agree with what you said about the skill of the actor in making the role believable. I think getting "the look" close is important, but it's worthless unless the guy can act well enough to pull off the role. Phillip Seymour Hoffman is a great actor, IMO, but he doesn't have the look for Cap. But, there are probably dozens of former football players, body builders, wrestlers, (and even some soap stars whose experience is basically just standing there and looking pretty) or whatever who have blond hair and a decent physical build who would still fail miserably because they lack the acting talent and experience to do anything other than play two-line roles as "Bodyguard #3", "Roadhouse Bouncer", or "Boy Toy".
I dunno about not wanting to sign a multi-movie deal. Even a-list people do it at times if they want to remain part of a project. Or at the worst are easily persauded to do sequels. Pitts in Ocean's 11,12 and 13 comes to mind. But in the Cap America scenario... it really would only have to be a two movie deal.. with both films being shot consecutively. Esp if rumors are true and I think they would have to be in order for Marvel to release CA and the Avengers with in weeks of each other.
One name however which seams to be running rampant in the peanut gallery is Leonardo DiCaprio! Lets just say i would literally puke if his scrawny a** landed the role. Nor would I want an actor like Mathew Machoney. Even though he has the physical tools and acting ability....... I just can't stand him.
And I said i wasn't going to toss any more names in the basket.... but i keep remembering actors who I believe could do the role justice. ie look the part... got the physique... can handle action... and can actually act (though some better than others)
Paul Walker
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Thought about him last night. Might be good, but he's going to have to hurdle that whole acting thing though.
Are you kidding me!? I mean, Brad Pitt may not look the part, but at least he is one of the greatest actors of our time....Paul Walker is such a bad actor that his screen presence causes me physical pain. "Timeline" was a bad movie to begin with, but with him as the lead, I found myself cringing every time he opened his mouth. I will give you this though Quake, he DOES look fairly right.
Quote from: BentonGrey on June 24, 2008, 06:12:04 AM
Are you kidding me!? I mean, Brad Pitt may not look the part, but at least he is one of the greatest actors of our time....Paul Walker is such a bad actor that his screen presence causes me physical pain. "Timeline" was a bad movie to begin with, but with him as the lead, I found myself cringing every time he opened his mouth. I will give you this though Quake, he DOES look fairly right.
I agree. Has the look but ruins movies.
QuoteCena would be very interesting and I would actually really like to see him in a Cap costume now. Do you think Vince would actually let him do something like that without being like an executive producer on the film?
There's no person in this world I hate more than John Cena. Also he is the
worst actor on a show that uses terrible acting for humorous appeal. I don't think Marvel is stupid enough to bring a terrible wrestler type, they seem to want good acting in their movies. Even the Rated R Superstar, the greatest and most hilarious wrestler of all time, Edge, who I'd like to see in a movie, wouldn't be a good enough actor to be in a real movie.
A rapping John Cena Captain America complete with terrible insults that evoke cheers from the crowd with that hit-in-the-head-with-a-brick voice... I cringe, I CRINGE!
Quote from: BentonGrey on June 24, 2008, 06:12:04 AM
Are you kidding me!? I mean, Brad Pitt may not look the part, but at least he is one of the greatest actors of our time....Paul Walker is such a bad actor that his screen presence causes me physical pain. "Timeline" was a bad movie to begin with, but with him as the lead, I found myself cringing every time he opened his mouth. I will give you this though Quake, he DOES look fairly right.
Hey... about acting I said, "...some better than others." ;) Though I did like him in 'The Fast and the Furious'
Walker is... limited. Esp when compared to some of the other names I tossed up... but hey he could be worst like... John Cena :huh:
I'm not going to knock wrestlers as a whole because in the right situations... some can actually act. Maybe no Oscar winners... but still do a decent job. Triple H is one of those whom I believe can be coached and directed well enough to play Thor for instance. John Cena just isn't there and may never be.
Quote from: BWPS on June 24, 2008, 08:24:49 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on June 24, 2008, 06:12:04 AM
Are you kidding me!? I mean, Brad Pitt may not look the part, but at least he is one of the greatest actors of our time....Paul Walker is such a bad actor that his screen presence causes me physical pain. "Timeline" was a bad movie to begin with, but with him as the lead, I found myself cringing every time he opened his mouth. I will give you this though Quake, he DOES look fairly right.
I agree. Has the look but ruins movies.
QuoteCena would be very interesting and I would actually really like to see him in a Cap costume now. Do you think Vince would actually let him do something like that without being like an executive producer on the film?
There's no person in this world I hate more than John Cena. Also he is the worst actor on a show that uses terrible acting for humorous appeal. I don't think Marvel is stupid enough to bring a terrible wrestler type, they seem to want good acting in their movies. Even the Rated R Superstar, the greatest and most hilarious wrestler of all time, Edge, who I'd like to see in a movie, wouldn't be a good enough actor to be in a real movie.
A rapping John Cena Captain America complete with terrible insults that evoke cheers from the crowd with that hit-in-the-head-with-a-brick voice... I cringe, I CRINGE!
Cena hasn't done the rapping bit in a long time. If it wasn't for his entrance music (which I'm totally sick of - "Basic Thuganomics" was 10x better than "My Time Is Now"), you wouldn't even know he raps.
Edge had a bit part in Highlander Endgame, by the way.
the right person for cap would be hard to find.triple H as thor?hmmm?i always thought triple h would have made a good sabretooth.paul walker has the look,dont know about acting,but he'd really have to start working out.
Quote from: herodad1 on June 24, 2008, 03:12:57 PM
the right person for cap would be hard to find.triple H as thor?hmmm?i always thought triple h would have made a good sabretooth.paul walker has the look,dont know about acting,but he'd really have to start working out.
The only question with a Paul Walker would be acting. Pretty much every guy I listed know there way around a gym. Matt Damon was the only sfty on the list until he beefed up for his 'Jason Bourne' rolls.
If I had my choice I would say Matt Damon is my #1 so far. Brad Pitt would be #2. I like Matt over Brad for the fact I think Matt seems to have that "softer" side and can see being a sympathetic Rogers as wel as kicking some arse. Brad I think would be great if this was Ultimate Cap
on a side note I second Herodad HHH would be an awesome Sabertooth look wise.
I must say, I think Matt Damon would make a pretty good Cap. I think he's close enough to look the part, without looking all 'roided up like a wrestler. He's shown a willingness to do trilogies and such (The Ocean's movies and The Bourne Trilogy) so he'd likely be willing to commit to multiple movies under the right conditions (maybe good script, good character, right amount of money?)
But, there's an ace in the hole to get him as Cap... have Kevin Smith direct it...haha.
Quote from: Adamence on June 24, 2008, 06:21:05 PM
But, there's an ace in the hole to get him as Cap... have Kevin Smith direct it...haha.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, that'd be the worst movie ever! Kevin Smith! Good one!
Last thing from me about Brad Pitt: I think he would have been a better Ghost Rider than Cap. And House Quake you do bring up some good points about Brad as well. I did like him in 12 monkeys & Legends of the Fall, but I don't think he can play a solider role.
Brad Pit is being considered for Thor. I Think he's better cast as thor than Cap.
Eh, I dont think Pitt is big enough for Thor. He is big enough for Cap but I dont think close enough for Thor
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on June 26, 2008, 06:03:38 PM
Eh, I dont think Pitt is big enough for Thor. He is big enough for Cap but I dont think close enough for Thor
:thumbdown:
I read some of those rumors as well. I think people who liked him in 'Troy' are making the Thor connection. But... Thos really needs to be physically commanding and is the only character I can see going for a potential nobody for sake of the physical presence. Or a wrestler like Triple H or similiar.
Quote from: House Quake on June 26, 2008, 06:38:03 PM
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on June 26, 2008, 06:03:38 PM
Eh, I dont think Pitt is big enough for Thor. He is big enough for Cap but I dont think close enough for Thor
:thumbdown:
I read some of those rumors as well. I think people who liked him in 'Troy' are making the Thor connection. But... Thos really needs to be physically commanding and is the only character I can see going for a potential nobody for sake of the physical presence. Or a wrestler like Triple H or similiar.
I'm not sure if HHH would be such a terrible actor, and he does look the part. Just, please, God, no Motorhead theme.
I don't see why they can't scout out Scandinavia for a 7 ft tall viking's descendant.
They needed a 7ft tall native American for one flew over the cuckoo's nest and they never thought they would find one, but they lucked across him in an airport (so the story goes).
I guarantee there is a huge, imposing blond guy somewhere in that part of the world that can bench press VW and majored in theater. All they have to do is find him and we will have out Thor.
Quote from: Carravaggio on June 27, 2008, 12:17:36 AM
I don't see why they can't scout out Scandinavia for a 7 ft tall viking's descendant.
They needed a 7ft tall native American for one flew over the cuckoo's nest and they never thought they would find one, but they lucked across him in an airport (so the story goes).
I guarantee there is a huge, imposing blond guy somewhere in that part of the world that can bench press VW and majored in theater. All they have to do is find him and we will have out Thor.
The thing is Marvel appears to be going with 'star' appeal. And like Ironman and Hulk so far... I think they will continue to go that trend with Thor and Cap America. The lead actors don't have to be household names... but some familiarity from te public is at I think they are going for.
Unfortunately its that same producer's thinking that gave us Nic Cage as Johnny Blaze (a balding 50 year old brunette to play a long haired biker thrillseeker two thirds his age), ben affleck to play matt murdock (a 6' 4" dark haired guy to play a 5' 10" redhead) and a waif like, redhead Jen Garnier to play the distinctly greek Elektra (it might seem like I'm making a big deal out of hair colour, but when they can't even be bothered to get that right fort he cost of a bottle of hair dye, you know their priorities are messed up).
The no name thing can work tho, look at Jackman as Wolvie, he had only made a few aussie movies (and an aussie TV show) and some small roles in american movies. I also think Eric Bana did well as Hector and as Bruce Banner, regardless of what people thought of hulk overall, and if you saw how his career started in Australia, man, would you laugh.
I get what you're saying Quake, and I have no doubt you're right. Which is unfortunate. I guess my hope for a no name is a pipe dream.
And I'm as big a fan of Triple h as you will find, but they guy isn't pretty, and he can't play noble (arrogant he has downpat).
I've heard a few people throw around the name of the lead Viking from 13th Warrior. Thats a casting I could get behind...
Quote from: House Quake on June 23, 2008, 02:17:32 AM
But if Marvel wants to go inexpensive with an actor in the lead role.. then Thomas Jane would be a good choice. He's familiar with Marvel and I don't blame him for his version of 'The Punisher' not being what many hoped it would. Though i liked him in the role and as an actor period.
Funny, as soon as my brother and I saw Punisher we both agreed Jane would have made a brilliant Cap. Punisher wasn't bad, Jane just went for the wrong role ^_^
Two things pop into my head.
First, there is a value to getting "the look" right. For example, I think Reese Witherspoon is a good actress, but I don't think she works as Wonder Woman. I would think there would be a fair number of well-built male actors who could be made believably blond. Of course, even as far as looks are concerned, there's more to Cap than someone who looks like he's seen the inside of a gym. One worry is that so many actors nowadays have that I'm too cool for school attitude and they cultivate that for themselves. That is, they always have sort of a smirk or sly look, like they might be a little mean. That's great for sex appeal (gods know why), but I would prefer not to look at a smirking, bad-boy Cap. Not that he should be some sort of naif, but he should be sort of wholesome and respectable. I hope they take that into account when trying to get the look right.
So much for casting the guy who can play Cap's statue. :D
Secondly, I am not particularly concerned whether the actor is well known or unknown. It still comes down to the acting. The problem with an unknown is just that: his skills are unknown, so you can't be sure he can handle the role. I would agree that Hugh Jackman made a good Wolverine, but I also think they sort of got lucky. When someone has less experience under his belt, they are taking a bigger chance on him. Obviously, a good approach might be to go for someone who comes well recommended from leading roles in other venues (indy pics, theater, etc.) but who hasn't broken into stardom yet... I would really, really prefer that they did that instead of settling for some sport star and hoping the name recognition will cover for a lack of leading role experience.
I have the solution:
Paul Walker as Captain America
....with his lines dubbed by Tom Hanks! :P
Quote from: Carravaggio on June 27, 2008, 01:24:05 AM
Unfortunately its that same producer's thinking that gave us Nic Cage as Johnny Blaze (a balding 50 year old brunette to play a long haired biker thrillseeker two thirds his age), ben affleck to play matt murdock (a 6' 4" dark haired guy to play a 5' 10" redhead) and a waif like, redhead Jen Garnier to play the distinctly greek Elektra (it might seem like I'm making a big deal out of hair colour, but when they can't even be bothered to get that right fort he cost of a bottle of hair dye, you know their priorities are messed up).
The no name thing can work tho, look at Jackman as Wolvie, he had only made a few aussie movies (and an aussie TV show) and some small roles in american movies. I also think Eric Bana did well as Hector and as Bruce Banner, regardless of what people thought of hulk overall, and if you saw how his career started in Australia, man, would you laugh.
I get what you're saying Quake, and I have no doubt you're right. Which is unfortunate. I guess my hope for a no name is a pipe dream.
And I'm as big a fan of Triple h as you will find, but they guy isn't pretty, and he can't play noble (arrogant he has downpat).
I've heard a few people throw around the name of the lead Viking from 13th Warrior. Thats a casting I could get behind...
Of the Marvel movies made in the last decade... spider-man, X-Men, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, Elektra, Hulk, Incredible Hulk and, Ironman... Only Hulk (Eric Bana) cast a virtual unknown into the lead role. X-Men was an ensemble movie with a mix of no name (Hugh Jackman), familiar faces (Patrick Stewart) and a-list celebrities (the terribly cast Halle Berry). They got lucky with Hugh... whom may I add since you mention the physical aspects of Afleck and J. Garner... was no where near the height required for Wolvie'.
All of the others cast lead actors who already had nice resumes (and/or were riding the wave after making thier big breaks in other films.
The only truly bad cast of all the movies were Nick Cage and Halle Berry. I know Nick wanted to do a super hero movie bad... but that wasn't the one. There is still a role or two out there for him (Dr. Strange...?) ... though I think he may have missed the boat with the genre. And of all the black actresses they could have went after to play Storm... they choose probably the worst one. Where a couple other movies or sequels fell short... I put more blame on the wrters and directors than the actors.
The one thing I find interesting is that IMO some people stereotype actors like a Brad Pitt as a 'pretty boy' with limited acting ability or as if they are incapable of playing certain roles. A good actor is a good actor regardless of how he looks. An actors like Brad Pitt is at the top not because of his looks alone... but because he has a proven track record of playing a wide range of characters... well. He isn't alone in this aspect. I think people are calling for a 'no name' because they assume a stereotype on an actor like him. And because of that stereotype... has seen few of his movies having based thier opinion from the one or two they did see. Also they are looking for an actor with whom they can 'type cast' into the role. ie The 'Christopher Reeves' model. They want a guy who fits the 'physical' image as if they walked from ther comic page... have no other rolls which they may be associated with... and if they can act... it would be a bonus.
Ehhh... I've waited to many years for some of these movies to be made... esp Cap America. or him I want marvel to lay it all on the table and get the best 'actor' possible. I really don't want to see... nor do I expect to see a gamble being taken on a character like Cap. Thor iis another thing. Because that movie promises to be a more 'visual' spectacular... I can see going for a no name in that roll because the 'look' of Thor and how he fits in with the surroundings will be as important if not more important than a 'name'.
Just to let it be known, as much as I and a bunch others like Triple H to play Thor, with the look build and quite frankly acting in a comic book movie previously(and I object to him not being noble, that was his first angle in the WWE). However we feel, I do know there is a certain 7' tall actor with blonde hair who has acted in comic book movies before who has been pining for the role; Tyler Mane. Yes, Sabertooth from X-Men and Ajax from Troy. But last I heard, I heard that the slotted director was eying the skinny six-foot tall Kevin McKidd(Rome/Journeyman) for the part...
Although we're not at the point of technology where they can make the tall short and the short tall... I-I don't know...
But speaking of such movies, What about Ryan Reynolds as Capt?
IMDB has Ryan Reynolds playing as Deadpool in the X-Men Origins: Wolverine movie.
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on June 29, 2008, 10:12:46 PM
Just to let it be known, as much as I and a bunch others like Triple H to play Thor, with the look build and quite frankly acting in a comic book movie previously(and I object to him not being noble, that was his first angle in the WWE).
I would suggest that Triple H first debuted in WWE as an arrogant nobleman, true, but he was hardly noble. As such, it remains to be seen if he can pull off Shakespearean depth, heroic selflessness and the noble bearing of a god. As big a fan as I am of the guy, and as great as he would look in the Ultimate Thor outfit, I think it'd be a mistake, and instead of a vast epic of the power and history of the norse gods, we get a lot of punching and a heavy metal soundtrack <_<
ugh...current ultimate thor is a mess...let's not mention him anymore, plz. ^_^
Quote from: Carravaggio on June 30, 2008, 07:38:19 PM
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on June 29, 2008, 10:12:46 PM
Just to let it be known, as much as I and a bunch others like Triple H to play Thor, with the look build and quite frankly acting in a comic book movie previously(and I object to him not being noble, that was his first angle in the WWE).
I would suggest that Triple H first debuted in WWE as an arrogant nobleman, true, but he was hardly noble. As such, it remains to be seen if he can pull off Shakespearean depth, heroic selflessness and the noble bearing of a god. As big a fan as I am of the guy, and as great as he would look in the Ultimate Thor outfit, I think it'd be a mistake, and instead of a vast epic of the power and history of the norse gods, we get a lot of punching and a heavy metal soundtrack <_<
I think of HHH to the role of Thor almost as strong as I did Patrick Stewart as Prof. X. before an X-Man movie was even considered. I (and many others) thought the role was tailor made for Mr. Stewart. Or even Cristian Bale after I watched Equilibrium and said to myself, "This guy would be a great Bruce Wayne if they ever made another Batman movie."
of course the list of actors for other roles I got wrong is 10x as long... but I'm just sayin'... :P
IMO... he has 'some' acting ability and I'm sure a good script, a good director and a good supporting cast could carry a HHH in a Thor movie. I never thought Dwayne Johnson would be worth anything... but when given the opportunity he proved that he has 'some' acting ability. No oscar winners... but can act none the less.
Some one mentioned Tyler Mane... physically he could do well... but I've seen even less 'acting' ability from him even though he's been in several movies. i just do not want to see some skinny guy trying to pull off such a physically imposing character.
On a Cap-related note: I saw the Incredible Hulk this weekend and really enjoyed the depictions of Blonsky post SSS/pre-Abomination. I hope it's a preview of Cap to come - fast, powerful, acrobatic . . . everything Cap should be.
Quote from: Uncle Yuan on July 01, 2008, 04:25:47 AM
On a Cap-related note: I saw the Incredible Hulk this weekend and really enjoyed the depictions of Blonsky post SSS/pre-Abomination. I hope it's a preview of Cap to come - fast, powerful, acrobatic . . . everything Cap should be.
I'll second that.
Quote from: BlueBard on July 01, 2008, 10:03:38 AM
Quote from: Uncle Yuan on July 01, 2008, 04:25:47 AM
On a Cap-related note: I saw the Incredible Hulk this weekend and really enjoyed the depictions of Blonsky post SSS/pre-Abomination. I hope it's a preview of Cap to come - fast, powerful, acrobatic . . . everything Cap should be.
I'll second that.
Third
I agree. I also liked the healing factor Blonsky had. I hope Cap is relatively as powerful as that.
And they have a director.
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/zap-johnstoncaptainamericadirector,0,5805753.story
Pick a guy with experience directing a period pic to direct a comic inspired period pic? Well done so far.
:thumbup:
-MJB
Ohhh....The Rocketeer....EXCELLENT choice!
Color me... intrigued.
That's the same guy behind the Rocketeer? In that case, I am impressed. He's already proven that he can do a superhero movie based on comics set in WW II, so sounds like a good fit.
This pleases me :) Now if we could get some info on who to play Cap. lol
Jurassic Park III, well, color me, pickle me, tickle me excited! I think this will defenitely be good.
Wait, I didn't notice that.......Jurassic Park III...that doesn't exactly help his case. Still, Rocketeer is a pretty strong argument in his favor.
I think I'm the only comic fan who likes Matthew McConaughey for the role. He can act (remember A Time To Kill, Contact, Frailty, Dazed & Confused, etc?), he's got the chiselled look & physique, macho attitude, etc.
The only thing is ... he may be too old for the role. He's almost 40, and I pictured Cap as being in his early 30s but seeming much older, due to the "time-jump" to present day.
It all depends on the film-makers ... should Cap be young or old, normal or hugely built, etc.
Eww. No. Waaaaay too smarmy. He could never pull off that starry-eyed idealism that I think the role requires. Cap is Marvel's psychological equivalent to Superman - their Big Blue Boyscout, if you will. I really can't think of anyone off the top of my head that could, and still have that broad-shouldered Ayrian look (kind of ironic really, given Cap's fight against the Nazis). Josh Lucas, maybe?
Am I the only one who doesn't think that Cap need to be blond and blue eyed? I know that may be the comic book version, but I don't think they need to stick to that point.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on November 12, 2008, 09:48:15 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't think that Cap need to be blond and blue eyed? I know that may be the comic book version, but I don't think they need to stick to that point.
Complete agree. I can only imagine how many people would go "OMIGAWD CAP ISNT WHITE, THATS UNAMERICAN!?!!!" if they picked someone who is ethnic.
QuoteComplete agree. I can only imagine how many people would go "OMIGAWD CAP ISNT WHITE, THATS UNAMERICAN!?!!!" if they picked someone who is ethnic.
Well, I actually don't want someone who is ethnic for two reasons.
1. Doesn't fit in well with the WWII setting.
2. I like the Isaiah Bradley storyline. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing it woven in with the new movie and have both Captain Americas appear, perhaps with Steve rescuing Isaiah as his first mission and the movie ending with him visiting Isaiah in the present.
Well, not really knowing anything about Isaiah Bradley, I've got no investment with the character, but if you want a non-traditional Cap, than I'd at least want an established character to be used. However, my purest colors are showing, and I want my Cap to look just like he does in the comics!
Plus, I always liked the whole Aryan angle to Captain America, the fact that he was the Nazi's idea of the ideal man, and he was TOTALLY opposed to that very ideal. It increased the tension between the ideologies of freedom and equality on the one hand, and conquest and hierarchy on the other. There was something very Dietrich Bonhoeffer about it.
Yeah using Isiah Bradley could help, and it'd make things easier if they ever wanted to make a Young Avengers movie. That reminds me Marvel is supposed to be making a Runaways movie. That could be cool.
Actually, I've been thinking this through, and I've got a cool concept for a Cap movie featuring Isaah.
The movie starts with the usual stuff. Steve is a fervent idealist guy, gets rejected from the military because he's too physically weak (polio perhaps) but gets accepted for the supersoldier program because the government wants a symbol to rally the morale of the people and Steve idealistic faith in his government makes him perfect.
He's sent on his first mission, confronts the Red Skull for the first time. Then he find out that the supersoldier formula was test on a group of black soldiers most of who are badly scarred, both physically and mentally. He further finds out that Isaah Bradley, the last test subject before cap and the most unharmed of the group had previous stolen an early Cap uniform against orders and gone after the Nazis, but had been abandoned by the government, who figured he'd be useless to the Nazis anyways, but now they figured out enough of the formula to create a flawed version in the Red Skull.
Now they send Cap to rescue Isaiah, but not because they care about him, but only so the nazis won't perfect the formula. This destroys caps faith in his country and his mission is as much a struggle in himself as to what he believes as it is a rescue mission. In the end, he rescues Isaiah and determines that the best way to be a patriot is to not only protect his country from its enemies, but to use his influence as an American symbol to make his country better. He tries to get Isaiah freed from his court martial so he can serve as a second Captain America, but his superiors don't want a black captain america and don't like Cap's new attitude. Nonetheless, the abilities granted him are useful, so he is sent against the Red Skull again, but is overwhelmed. The army recieves word that Cap is in trouble. Suddenly, Isaah shows up to help Cap, having been promised freedom from his court martial, and helps Cap defeat the Red Skull, but in the process, Cap gets frozen. Isaiah returns, only to be kicked out of the army and forced into near imprisonment to keep his secret.
Skip to the present. Cap is revived and the first thing he sees is Nick Fury (Sam L. Jackson again) who explains what year it is and introduced himself as General Nick Fury. This makes Cap smile as he is told that Isaiah, and through him, Steve Rogers, became an important symbol and inspiration during the civil rights movement. The elderly, but still young looking, Isaiah is brought in, obviously suffering from something like altzheimer's, but remembers Cap for a moment and greets him warmly. The movie ends with Fury telling him that he was revived for a reason, "You're country still needs you. I'd like you to meet your new team."
Well, something like that, anyway.
Quote from: BentonGrey on November 11, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Wait, I didn't notice that.......Jurassic Park III...that doesn't exactly help his case. Still, Rocketeer is a pretty strong argument in his favor.
oh, don't tell me your one of those people who thought 2 was better than 3. <_< :D
Just kidding everyone has there own oppinion :lol:
I like my Jurassic Park like i like my Indiana Jones
In order from best to worst:
Jurassic Park/The Raiders of the lost ark
Jurassic Park 3/ The Last Crusade
The Lost World: Jurassic Park/The Temple of Doom
And Yes, Rocketeer is a strong Plus!
what, no Jumanji enthusiasts? :P I love that movie! Joe Johnston's a good director. He's just got some not so pretty movies in his resume, JP3 being probably the biggest one, although I actually didn't think it was that bad.
but I don't care for the alleged title as "The First Avenger: Captain America". Why not just call it the title name, Captain America, like all of Marvel's other movies have done?
Because it's a lead-in to the Avengers movie to be released a month later.
Quote from: docdelorean88 on November 15, 2008, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on November 11, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Wait, I didn't notice that.......Jurassic Park III...that doesn't exactly help his case. Still, Rocketeer is a pretty strong argument in his favor.
oh, don't tell me your one of those people who thought 2 was better than 3. <_< :D
And Yes, Rocketeer is a strong Plus!
There's people who liked 3 over 2?!
I thought 2 was probably the best in the series, overall. It was more action, which is a good thing when it comes to dinosaurs. It reminds me of the difference between Alien and Aliens.
The Rocketeer is one of my favorite movies though, and that's what gives me good hopes for this.
Ughh......no, no, no, definitely not. I thought Lost World was a mediocre book turned into a terrible movie. It wouldn't have been so bad if the characters just hadn't been so painfully stupid. Anyway, interesting concept Cat, but I'd prefer a Cap movie to be more idealistic.
for Jurassic Park: I would have liked 2 better than 3 if it weren't for that god-awful ending where they take the dinosaur back to the main land. They even threw in a Godzilla homage with a group of Japanese people frantically running away from the T-Rex, making it extra cheesy. Ugh...
For Cap: Am I the only one who finds all this set-up for an Avengers movie kind of...well, lame? I get this feeling that the eventual movie won't even have that good of a story, but just a weak excuse to team up all these superheroes in a big all-out action fest. I'll gladly eat my own words if it's a great movie, but I can't say I'm a fan of franchises making entries for the sole purpose of setting something up for a sequel or another movie (and this goes the same for the video game industry, who likes to focus more on sequels to fix issues rather than the immediate game).
Marvell, I'd give a lot more credence to your fears if the two films we have already got weren't just unabashedly awesome. Marvel still has plenty of time to screw things up irrevocably, but I'd say they've earned some faith and good will.
Who do you think should be the best cap? :unsure:
I know Iron Man and Incredible Hulk were awesome, but I also found the added "lead-in" scenes to be my least favorite parts of the movie. At least Iron Man's was at the end of the credits, unlike Hulk's, which was almost entirely out of place. But whether or not the Avengers movie is good, I still don't think the Captain America movie has to tie directly into it, per se. I don't see why it can't be like Iron Man, which will be it's own franchise PLUS in the Avengers.
as for the role, of all the famous people I've seen mentioned, I guess Brad Pitt would be a good choice, but imo, he's just too damn famous. I'd rather have a lesser known actor, or possibly someone completely unheard of.