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Title: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: captmorgan72 on June 19, 2008, 04:08:08 PM
Here is a screenshot of the meshes I use for Hercules and Colossus next to Cap and Wonderman for size comparision. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/heroes.jpg
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: herodad1 on June 19, 2008, 04:37:01 PM
these are two characters i wish had specially sized meshes made for.i like the size beyonder made his thor.thats how tall herc should be.colossus should be that tall maybe a head taller.ive tried different kf/meshes for them.hitmans skope for mr. inc. works well for colossus heigth wise.
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: The_Baroness on June 19, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
Well when i ant to rezise a char i go into nifskope and change the size a little... for example Tommyboy's barda if you resize her to 1.2500 she would have the same size aprox than ink's she hulk... and i thinks hse should be a little taller..... is  a way to do it...
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: herodad1 on June 19, 2008, 05:06:32 PM
this is is probably the best size colossus. just the right heigth and build. if it didnt have the knee guards it would be also perfect for herc.   http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Billdamnsmarvelskinspot/?yguid=238165268     
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: captmorgan72 on June 19, 2008, 06:42:24 PM
Using that mesh for Colossus and Herc I took some screenshots of them standing next to Cap and Thor for size comparisions here http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/testone.jpg

Here are Colossus and Herc using the meshes I am using now standing next to Thor and Cap again http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/testtwo.jpg

I don't know, I don't think that Colossus is big enough with the first mesh, he is after all 7'5 and 500lbs. The mesh I am using gives him the mass and height that Colossus should have. Hercules however looks better on this mesh but still not enough muscle mass for the son of Zeus. Beyonder's Thor is perfect for Thor and wouldn't be a bad one for Hercs either. The male heavy mesh gives Hercs the muscle mass but just doesn't look right for him.
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: herodad1 on June 19, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
if you like colossus on the male_heavy try TJ's goon kf's.
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: The_Baroness on June 19, 2008, 07:33:54 PM
i am using Ren's killer croc keyframes for my male_heavy... and they look great


Wanted to add that in game if you see tommy's mr Miracle and Barda side by side after the rezise i suggested they actually look like in the comics.... well.. how they  looked in the JLI era :P

(http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Baroness-scottbarda.jpg)
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Mystik on June 19, 2008, 10:59:18 PM
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 19, 2008, 06:42:24 PM
Using that mesh for Colossus and Herc I took some screenshots of them standing next to Cap and Thor for size comparisions here http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/testone.jpg

Here are Colossus and Herc using the meshes I am using now standing next to Thor and Cap again http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/testtwo.jpg

I don't know, I don't think that Colossus is big enough with the first mesh, he is after all 7'5 and 500lbs. The mesh I am using gives him the mass and height that Colossus should have. Hercules however looks better on this mesh but still not enough muscle mass for the son of Zeus. Beyonder's Thor is perfect for Thor and wouldn't be a bad one for Hercs either. The male heavy mesh gives Hercs the muscle mass but just doesn't look right for him.


may i ask what comics have you read? I have never seen colossus depicted as the image you like, yes he is 7'5 and 500lbs, 500bls of organic steel not flesh,

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Piotr_Rasputin_%28Earth-616%29/Gallery (http://en.marveldatabase.com/Piotr_Rasputin_%28Earth-616%29/Gallery)

here is gallery showing various artists interpretations of , the bulkiest of the set is done  by chris bachelo is style is always bulky to say the least

his first appearance can be seen in this blog
http://kleinletters.com/Blog/?p=346 (http://kleinletters.com/Blog/?p=346)

the hulk and thing  in that blog look more suitable for your mesh than colosuss
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: laughing paradox on June 21, 2008, 02:46:28 PM
Is that Ink's Wonder Man?

If so, what keyframes are being used for him?
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Previsionary on June 21, 2008, 11:00:17 PM
Just to add a bit of info to this thread, in the latest Hercules book, he's confirmed as being 6'5", so he should be shorter than colossus by a whole inch :P.

Thor is 6'6"
Hercules is 6'5"
Colossus is 6'6" and 7'5" in steel mode

Is there a reason you're trying to get so accurate? I doubt you'll find a mesh that hits those dimensions exactly and you probably won't hit it with nifskope unless you actually know the scale FF/FFVTTR uses (IIRC, the scale is centimeters/meters).

The ant in ff1 was 3.2 meters tall and he's counted as normal. Order was 4.1 meters tall and he's counted as...well...tall. The mech robots were 5 meters and they were giant. Things were setup that way for a reason to keep down the triangle/polycount, so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: tommyboy on June 22, 2008, 02:43:09 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a384/tommyboy2002/hercsize.jpg)

My Hercules and Thor next to my Cap and Hawkeye (both Cap and Hawk are 'normal' sized).
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Zivon23 on June 22, 2008, 06:00:05 AM
Ya know.........No one has done an accurately heighted Cyclops.....He is 6'3, 175lbs  according to TOHOTMU Vol 2: Clea to Gaea(Copyright 1986).  Where's the Love, guys?  :D

~Z23~
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: BentonGrey on June 22, 2008, 10:04:09 AM
Yeah, I use Tommy's Herc, I love that Golden mace and the fact that he has the proper proportions, unlike male_heavy versions.
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: captmorgan72 on June 22, 2008, 02:34:58 PM
I downloaded Tommy's Hercules and after skoping off the extras and using C6's skin, I have to admit this mesh is perfect for Hercules. Way better than the heavy_male I was using. Perfect size and that beautiful golden mace. Here he is next to Beyonder's perfect Thor mesh. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Hercules.jpg
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: tommyboy on June 22, 2008, 02:54:34 PM
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 22, 2008, 02:34:58 PM
I downloaded Tommy's Hercules and after skoping off the extras and using C6's skin, I have to admit this mesh is perfect for Hercules. Way better than the heavy_male I was using. Perfect size and that beautiful golden mace. Here he is next to Beyonder's perfect Thor mesh. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Hercules.jpg


Gaaaah!!!1111eleven
He's NEKKID!oneoneone
Get those extras back on him now!!1111


(this is of course merely fatuous and facetious humour on my part, not a serious comment).
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Courtnall6 on June 22, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 22, 2008, 02:34:58 PM
I downloaded Tommy's Hercules and after skoping off the extras and using C6's skin, I have to admit this mesh is perfect for Hercules. Way better than the heavy_male I was using. Perfect size and that beautiful golden mace. Here he is next to Beyonder's perfect Thor mesh. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Hercules.jpg

Or you can just use this one :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/Courtnall6/hercPOP.jpg)
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Indigo on June 22, 2008, 07:57:47 PM
When's it gonna come out C6? :o
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: BentonGrey on June 22, 2008, 08:51:49 PM
Ha!  I've been waiting for that one C6, and it is B-E-A-UTIFUL!
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Podmark on June 22, 2008, 09:06:23 PM
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 22, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 22, 2008, 02:34:58 PM
I downloaded Tommy's Hercules and after skoping off the extras and using C6's skin, I have to admit this mesh is perfect for Hercules. Way better than the heavy_male I was using. Perfect size and that beautiful golden mace. Here he is next to Beyonder's perfect Thor mesh. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Hercules.jpg

Or you can just use this one :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/Courtnall6/hercPOP.jpg)

Dude it's the Incredible Herc, the guy who stole Hulk's title!!
Title: Re: What meshes do you guys use for Hercules and Colossus?
Post by: Courtnall6 on June 23, 2008, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: Podmark on June 22, 2008, 09:06:23 PM
Dude it's the Incredible Herc, the guy who stole Hulk's title!!

Bah!!! Prince of Power sounds way cooler! :cool: