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Title: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: BentonGrey on February 15, 2008, 12:42:46 PM
Howdy guys, I've already done a few hastily slapped together videos for the DCUG, and I was just wondering if we've got any veteran YouTube-ers around here.  If so, I'd really like to know if there is any way to upload videos that aren't HORRENDOUSLY grainy.  At the moment I'm using Fraps and Windows Movie Maker.

An example of what I'm dealing with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneksGcYWlw
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: Mr. Hamrick on February 15, 2008, 01:20:44 PM
i'm not as familiar with fraps or windows movie maker but . . .

generally the grainy quality you are noticing is from a combination of a lot quality compression export.  In short,  the lower the compression quality then the smaller the file will be able to viewed at and not be grainy.  There is, if I recall, a setting on Windows Media Player but I am not sure about Window Movie Maker that will allow you to export the file with a compression that is ideal for streaming on the web via sites like YouTube or like I have on my site.
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: BentonGrey on February 15, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
Thanks for the reply Mr. H., there are indeed several choices for the export resolution (although I don't know about compression) in Windows Movie Maker, although, having tried all of those that produce files small enough to be uploaded, I am at a loss to determine a significant difference. 
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: Midnight on February 15, 2008, 02:02:34 PM
Try an alternative like Veoh (http://www.veoh.com/).. YouTube has grainy video, but can get away with it due to popularity and sheer volume.
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: Cardmaster on February 17, 2008, 01:24:13 AM
Always remember to export at 320x240, 15fps. That's the default size/framerate YouTube changes it to, anyways. Then crank up the quality as much as possible while still staying under the filesize limit. This allows you to maximize your quality.

;)
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: BentonGrey on February 18, 2008, 07:44:10 AM
Thanks for the advice guys!  CM, how do I crank up the quality?
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: Mr. Hamrick on February 18, 2008, 11:05:12 AM
the quality relates to the export resolution
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: BentonGrey on February 18, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
Right, that's what I thought, but I'm a little confused.  If I HAVE to export it at a certain resolution, how can I "crank up the quality"?
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: stumpy on February 18, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
I am not an expert and I am not familiar with your software, but quality and picture size aren't the same thing. Quality should relate to how much compression there is. It's a little like JPEG quality: You can have whatever picture size, but quality determines how much color detail is preserved, etc. It's sort of how blocky or pixelated the output looks. What you want to do, I assume, is set the output size to youtube's standard and then adjust the quality until you are at or right below their max file size.
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: Sevenforce on February 18, 2008, 06:08:32 PM
Something I thought you may be interested in:

High Quality and Stereo Sound in Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhSrvdB5EMA&feature=related)
Title: Re: Testing the YouTube Wates
Post by: BentonGrey on February 19, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: stumpy on February 18, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
I am not an expert and I am not familiar with your software, but quality and picture size aren't the same thing. Quality should relate to how much compression there is. It's a little like JPEG quality: You can have whatever picture size, but quality determines how much color detail is preserved, etc. It's sort of how blocky or pixelated the output looks. What you want to do, I assume, is set the output size to youtube's standard and then adjust the quality until you are at or right below their max file size.

Right, that's what I want to do, but I can't seem to manage it.

Thanks Sevenforce, but I'm afraid that video is about high quality audio, rather than video.  There were some video tutorials linked from there, but they were about products I don't own.