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Opening up a discussion on creating a new Time-Travel Themed SG and/or VG to run new I-11 content.  This would be open to all characters with backgrounds involving time travel or temporal displacement.  We can have cavemen and knights fighting alongside samurai and advanced androids.  We're going to want to add as many members as possible to take advantage of the Prestige Grant on Dec 10.

Items on the Agenda:

* Which server?
* SG Name?
* Start from Scratch with New Toons, or Open Enrollment?

Post your comments and opinions here!

So far, the motion is to base the SG on Infinity, with Virtue as a possible alternate.

No name has been settled on, but I like names based on the concept of characters pulled from their own times and 'shards' and stranded in the present.  Proposed names have included Time Drifters, Heroes In/Of Time, and I'd like to propose Crosstime Castaways as another possibility.

Also, we can start the whole thing from scratch with new toons, or bring in established characters (depending on server).  If we bring in established characters, I'd vote for Virtue as the home server.  For all-new characters, I'd vote Infinity.

Please discuss and comment.  I may start polls to nail things down more, if there's interest and diversity of opinion.

Just for reference's sake, all members of the SG would be encouraged to do Ouroboros and flashback missions when they get to the appropriate levels.  Here's the relevant info on how to get them:

[spoiler]

QuoteHOW DO YOU GET TO OUROBOROS?

To get to Ouroboros on your own you must be level 25 and "Entrusted with the Secret." "Entrusted with the Secret" is a badge that you get whenever you find out that time travel is possible, usually by fighting some villain who is trying to change the timeline. To get this badge naturally, you need to have at least one of the following, as confirmed by Positron:

    * Hero Badges: Time Machinist, Temporal Agent, Arachnophobic, Wrangler, Poltergeist, Sandblasted, Shark Hunter, Justiciar, Globetrotter, Raganarok, Temporal Fighter, Last Stand, Saved The World, Peerless, Diplomat, Time Traveller
    * Villain Badges: Time Machinist, Temporal Agent, Usurper, Archvillain, Oppressor, Destroyer, Dead-eye, Interrogator, Breakneck, Uppercut, Blackguard, Globetrotter, Raganarok, Temporal Fighter, Last Stand, Saved The World, Time Traveller
    * Hero Souvenirs: Letter From Requiem, Blue Clockwork piece, A shattered Shadow Seed, The PsychoChronoMetron, The Real Faultline -by Dr. D. Stein
    * Villain Souvenirs: An old drawing of you, Lord Recluse's Helmet
    * Gladiator: 5th Column Gladiator

The "Entrusted with the Secret" badge comes with a permanent "temporary power" called Ouroboros Portal. It summons an immobile pet called an Ouroboros Portal (or, as most players call it, the "O-portal"). Clicking on the circle on the ground takes you to Ouroboros base. This power may be used every five minutes. The portal disappears when you leave the zone (including logging out or using the portal yourself) or after at most five minutes. Yes, you may use the Ouroboros portal anywhere, including in PvP zones, arena matches, cooperative zones, and Pocket D. Yes, villains may use heroes' O-portals and vice versa; however, this takes them to their own Ouroboros base, not the other side's.

If you did not uncover "the secret" on your own by earning one of these badges or souvenirs or that gladiator, the only way for you to be "Entrusted with the Secret" is to find someone else who has been "Entrusted with the Secret" and ask them to open an Ouroboros Portal for you. Step through it, and find the hidden Exploration badge ("Chrononaut") at the very top of the Ouroboros Base structure. This will also grant you the "Entrusted with the Secret" badge and your own Ouroboros Portal power.

HERO CONTACTS IN OUROBOROS (No Spoilers):

    * The Pilgrim gives a normal level 25-50 story arc, called "Ouroboros Initiation," consisting of four missions. Warning: You will be auto-exemplared to below your current level for at least one of these missions, and there is no NPC in Ouroboros base to adjust your difficulty.
    * Twilight's Son sends you back to the recent past to prevent the Circle of Thorns from destroying the world, in "Smoke and Mirrors." This is a level 25-34 task force with a minimum team size of one.
    * Mender Lazarus sends you a little further back in time to make sure that the 5th Column is defeated by The Council, in "Rise of The Council." This is a level 30-39 task force with a minimum team size of one. Warning: This task force was not designed to be soloed. You can try, but you will almost certainly fail in the 2nd mission.
    * Mender Silos sends you back to fight alongside Freedom Phalanx and the Vindicators against Lord Recluse and his minions in Siren's Call, in "Trading Places." This is a level 46-50 task force with a minimum team size of one.

VILLAIN CONTACTS IN OUROBOROS (No Spoilers):

    * The Pilgrim gives a normal level 25-50 story arc, called "Ouroboros Initiation," consisting of four missions. Warning: You will be auto-malefactored to below your current level for at least one of these missions, and there is no NPC in Ouroboros base to adjust your difficulty.
    * Mender Tesseract sends you back to 1964 to assassinate President Marchand of the Etoile Islands for Lord Recluse, in "A Spider Spins His Web." This is a level 25-34 strike force with a minimum team size of one.
    * Mender Lazarus sends you a few years back in time to make sure that the 5th Column is defeated by The Council, in "Rise of The Council." This is a level 30-39 strike force with a minimum team size of one. Warning: This task force was not designed to be soloed. You can try, but you will almost certainly fail in the 2nd mission.
    * Mender Silos sends you back a couple of years to fight alongside Lord Recluse's minions against Freedom Phalanx and the Vindicators in Siren's Call, in "Trading Places." This is a level 46-50 strike force with a minimum team size of one.

source info here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9502881&an=0&page=0#Post9502881).

I'm guessing the most straightforward way to get "Entrusted with the Secret" is to run through the Faultline missions (?)[/spoiler]

I vote for new characters.  I plan on a dual blades character..I created him on the Test Server and really like the way he played out.  Infinity's cool with me, so is Champion.  I have a 25 toon on Champion from the future. 

For a name, how about:
Tempus Fugitives

*edit* Umm.. I voted for Champion..and it's not there? oh well...must've hit the wrong button

Quote from: Thunder on November 27, 2007, 11:35:33 AM
I vote for new characters.  I plan on a dual blades character..I created him on the Test Server and really like the way he played out.  Infinity's cool with me, so is Champion.  I have a 25 toon on Champion from the future. 

For a name, how about:
Tempus Fugitives

I like that name!  I think it would work better for a VG, though.  We could have a 'flipside' version of the SG for basically the same purposes.

And sorry the server poll doesn't have all of the servers on it... it's limiting me to 6 options.

The server poll has been reset.  Go ahead and recast your vote, Thunder!

i like Tempus Fugitives too.

id prefer new chars, makes teaming ez :)

voted: inf

Quote from: catastrophe on November 27, 2007, 01:27:14 PM
id prefer new chars, makes teaming ez :)

Can't argue with that... and it will let all the new DB/ and /WP folks get right into the thick of things.  New characters it is.

So far Infinity is in the lead as far as servers go.  I plan to start levelling up Thurs night, though possibly Wed night, on whichever server is in the lead.  As soon as I get to 10, I'll start it up and reserve the name.  Which still hasn't been settled.  Keep the suggestions coming!  If we get a few good ones, I'll start another poll.

'The Rifted'?, 'Crosstimers'?, 'Chronic <something>'?, 'Paradox Patrol'?

I'd like to keep the name Tempus Fugitives reserved for a possible VG on the same server, anyone want to do that?

We can plan on running the sewers in Atlas Park if we can pull together a team to level up together.  Who else plans to be on Wed/Thurs night and wants to participate?

I like Paradox Patrol.   I'll be on tonight as: The Star-Stalker, Fugitive Hunter from the future.

Quote from: Thunder on November 28, 2007, 12:19:51 PM
I like Paradox Patrol.   I'll be on tonight as: The Star-Stalker, Fugitive Hunter from the future.

What AT/Powersets?  (Just FMyI)

I'm undecided as to what I'm going to build, so far.  Might do a tank, might not.  I'm probably going to try to be creative and come up with some anachronistic heroes.  But that's just me... guys create whatever characters float your boat.

I glombed onto the DB/WP powerset.  Had to try it.   BTW he's on Infinity  Global: @Thunder Prime

Not that I'm looking for a place to park alts, but I have placed a personal moratorium on new characters so I'm putting my marker down for Freedom.  I have the server nearly full of mid-teens and only one fifty.  I'm reluctant to move on to another server and wind up repeating the process . . .

That's actually an argument against putting it on Freedom.  Most of us are in the same boat, having filled up our slots on Freedom for one thing or another.

Now I'm not paying for a server move, and don't want to delete any of my existing alts to make way for new ones.  At least not yet.  I figure everyone else will feel more or less the same.  So... no room on Freedom means they gotta live elsewhere.  Unless a good chunk of the potential participants agree Freedom is the place to be.  Which isn't happening so far.  At the moment, Infinity appears to be the place.

Not intending to shut you out, UY.  Just trying to make the idea work.  By all means, if you can convince me and everyone else that Freedom is the best choice, I'd go with the majority.  I just won't have a lot of character slots to play around with.

On a totally unrelated note, the utter lack of any sort of tri-corner or feathered hat is really limiting some of my character designs.  Cuts out a large chunk of history, in my opinion.  There's nothing suitable for an archer, or Victorian-era gentleman, or musketeer.  Darn it, they've got a musketeer mustache, why not a hat to go with it?!?

I'll discuss my experiences with Dual Blades elsewhere...

Quote from: BlueBard on November 29, 2007, 06:48:02 AM
On a totally unrelated note, the utter lack of any sort of tri-corner or feathered hat is really limiting some of my character designs.  ... There's nothing suitable for an archer, or Victorian-era gentleman...

I respectfully beg to differ, sir.
[spoiler](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/ow_tiobe_sb/TPB_CoV.jpg)
This top hat suits the Phantom Bunburyist admirably (though the suit jacket and chest options leave something to be desired, i.e., no coattails or cravat available, AFAIK :().[/spoiler]

I'd be game for this SG, if the invitation is open to occasional and not just career players.  Additionally, I believe I have room on Infinity, so it received my vote.

I must say, I am rather keen on this issue.  I've already generated one DB scrapper and one shillelagh-wielding war mace tanker named Peep O' Day Boy. :twisted:

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat

My mistake... of course the top hat works for Victorian era. :) 

And I fully agree with you on the dreadful lack of coattails and a cravat.  The best I can do with my swashbuckler-type character is a decidedly piratical look.  Why, there aren't even any decent friar's robes!  (Although with a baggy top and a mono-colored battle kilt you can get reasonably close)

The invitation is wide open to any character you want to fit into the time-travel theme.  As far as I know right now Infinity is going to be its' home.  I'd really like to see the Tempus Fugitive VG make its' home on the same server.  I haven't bothered to generate a suitable villain yet, so I leave that for someone else.

The more I think of it, the more I am really liking the Paradox Patrol name.  I hope it will still be available.

Here are a few possible SG names I conjured up (admittedly, not my best thoughts ever recorded): "The AnachroGnostics," "The ERAtics," "Intercontinuum Inc.," "Chronexus Corps." *shrug*

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat

Since I love the concept of Tempus Fugitives being a corresponding villain group, I'll work on getting a villain to the requisite levels.  That'll also give me an excuse to make a Dual-Blades character without horribly overlapping stuff hero-side.

What to call him, though...

Ronin the Barbarian?

If I make a hero-side character, it will probably be an archery-themed character, possibly a Defender, named Reign of Arrows.

Quote from: ow_tiobe_sb on November 29, 2007, 08:27:25 AM
Here are a few possible SG names I conjured up (admittedly, not my best thoughts ever recorded): "The AnachroGnostics," "The ERAtics," "Intercontinuum Inc.," "Chronexus Corps." *shrug*

Anachronauts could work as a possibility.  So could ChronoCorps.  (Just to tweak your suggestions a bit...)

Quote from: BlueBard on November 29, 2007, 09:39:41 AM
Anachronauts could work as a possibility.  So could ChronoCorps.  (Just to tweak your suggestions a bit...)

Nice tweaking.  :thumbup:  I very much prefer your suggestions and slap myself thoroughly for not thinking of them myself.  :doh:

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat

Quote from: Viking on November 29, 2007, 09:25:30 AM
If I make a hero-side character, it will probably be an archery-themed character, possibly a Defender, named Reign of Arrows.

I like it! :D

And thanks for volunteering to head up Tempus Fugitives.

Okay, names...  We have:

Time Drifters
Rifters
The Castaways
The Crosstimers (or Crosstime Corps)
Heroes Of Time (H.O.T.)
Heroes In Time (H.I.T.)
Paradox Patrol
Anachronauts
AnachroGnostics
Intercontinuum Inc.
ChronoCorps
Chronic Adventurers (just threw that one in, but it's kind of lame too)

Or variations of the same.  My personal vote at this point would go to Paradox Patrol.  It sort of embodies the idea of a group of crosstime adventurers banded together for a common purpose, in my mind.  And the name has an anachronistic flavor to it, like something out of pulp or Golden Age comics.  Anachronauts might be my alternate choice, followed by Crosstime Corps or ChronoCorps.

Do we need to take a poll?

I really like Paradox Patrol.   

Now I've gotta get a villain ready for Tempus Fugitives.

Something to think about...

It might be kind of fun if some of the characters had alternate versions in the opposing group.  Sort of like, "this is how so-and-so would have turned out if <some past event> had been different."

Hah - if you wanted true lameness for a Heroic SG name, you could always call it "Gilligan's Timestream."  A bunch of chronic castaways that each went out for a "three hour" tour, which went seriously awry.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the person who envisioned the themed group in the first place gets the naming rights.  Of course, I also happen to like Paradox Patrol, so it doesn't make much difference in that regard...

Quote from: Viking on November 29, 2007, 10:07:06 AM
Hah - if you wanted true lameness for a Heroic SG name, you could always call it "Gilligan's Timestream."  A bunch of chronic castaways that each went out for a "three hour" tour, which went seriously awry.

:lol:

Not gonna do it, but amusing nevertheless...

Quote from: BlueBard on November 29, 2007, 10:03:41 AM
Something to think about...

It might be kind of fun if some of the characters had alternate versions in the opposing group.  Sort of like, "this is how so-and-so would have turned out if <some past event> had been different."

Grand idea!  I'd gladly go along with this theme. :)

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that one of our CoX worthies, Verfall, seems to have joined the ranks of the standard smileys next to :doh:?  I was not aware that this was one of the important updates made to the forums recently. :blink:

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat

I started a toon last night on Infinity, named Chrono Commando who like everyone else yesterday, weilds dual blades.  I was on about 3 PUGs with nothing but dual blades.  Needless to say, we were levelling fast.  Now I just gotta fast track "The Secret" on him.  I'll be scouring the COH forums for the quickest route.

Fun as dual blades are, I'm thinking I might want to start a more conventional character for this group.  Be nice to have something besides Scrappers and Tanks.  You know, like for support?

I might do an alternate version of my Maxwell Miracle character.  The mystery in his background might be that he's actually a time-traveller.  Still thinking about it.  I've tried several variations on Grav/Kin in Hero Builder and not satisfied with that.

I generally play scrappers anyways, which also makes soloing easier.  If the need arises, then I could make a troller for team play.

I forgot I have a Lvl 24 time-travelling blaster: Golden-Star.  I could reserve the name of the team.  I'm no good running a SG, I'd turn the reins over to someone else after we make the group.

Quote from: Thunder on November 29, 2007, 04:09:20 PM
I forgot I have a Lvl 24 time-travelling blaster: Golden-Star.  I could reserve the name of the team.  I'm no good running a SG, I'd turn the reins over to someone else after we make the group.

Go for it!  The sooner we reserve the name, the better.  Paradox Patrol.

The name is reserved.   I'll be on at 9pm Eastern tonight 11/30/07

I will be on Saturday evening after 8pm EST.  Send tell to Global: @Thunder Prime or Golden-Starr on the Infinity server.  That way we can begin the invites to Paradox Patrol.

New guys then?
What are the guidlines for creating? Just make a guy from a certain time period (including future?) who time-travels?

Quote from: BWPS on December 01, 2007, 04:44:27 PM
New guys then?
What are the guidlines for creating? Just make a guy from a certain time period (including future?) who time-travels?

Yes to the first, no to the second.  They don't have to be a time-traveller, although they could be.  The idea is that through some sort of temporal rift or other method, each of these characters has been sucked into the main CoH timeline from whatever their native timeline and period is.

For example, I've got one guy who's background says he basically got washed off a sailing ship during an unearthly storm and wound up off the shore of Paragon City.  Another lay dying but was healed and transported by a mysterious entity.  So, basically, take your pick.  Could be a sailor who strayed into the Bermuda Triangle, a WWII commando that accidentally triggered a Nazi time machine, a Knight sent on a quest by Merlin, a Saurian from the Stone Ages who was frozen in a block of ice, whatever you can imagine.  I wanted to leave plenty of latitude, but it's an excellent home for any and all historical-type characters.

We hope to have a similar SG for villains up and running, and some inter-group action in the PvP zones for those folks who like that sort of thing.

BTW... I now have Leader rights and can also do invites.  In fact, all members can invite at the present time.  I plan to be fairly generous with permissions and promotions as we get started.

And kudos to Thunder for starting things up and for making a really great team motto.  "Time waits for no one... except us."

I have also transferred a sum of influence to 'Voice of Wind' for use by Patrolmen to help them get going faster.  Donations welcome! ;)

I have both Chrono Commando and Chronomatrix in the SG.  So if you see me (@Krimsonik) I can invite you.  Also, are going to make the VG on Infinity as well?

Quote from: BlueBard on November 29, 2007, 10:03:41 AM
Something to think about...

It might be kind of fun if some of the characters had alternate versions in the opposing group.  Sort of like, "this is how so-and-so would have turned out if <some past event> had been different."

This is a great idea; especially considering the name of the group.

I'd be willing to make such a toon.  Anyone willing to have an Earth-X version of your toon?  

Ideally, I'd like to know what AT/Origin the toon is, enough of a bio that I can make slight yet profound changes to it, a pic of at least the face (being the same person the facial structure at least should be the same), and permission to use the toon's name.  

I'm up for any AT if the group has a certain need or desire but, as I have no 50, Kheldians are out and Tanking isn't my strong suit.

DK

Quote from: Kommando on December 03, 2007, 10:03:03 AM
I have both Chrono Commando and Chronomatrix in the SG.  So if you see me (@Krimsonik) I can invite you.  Also, are going to make the VG on Infinity as well?

That's the plan.  I believe Viking was going to level up a villain to start Tempus Fugitives with.  I have yet to do that, but I plan to at some point.

FYI...

I have a vague backstory in mind for the Paradox Patrol.  It's not entirely fleshed out yet, but I think it will add some flavor.

The members of the Paradox Patrol and Tempus Fugitives start out believing their situation of being time-stranded is accidental, or at least that there is no connection with each other.  In reality, there IS a connection involving a conspiracy to alter history on the part of entities unknown, entities willing to use them as unwitting pawns.  The higher-ranking members may be aware of this to some degree or another.  If I knew more of the Ouroboros story, I might tie it in to that.  It could be that Ouroboros is responsible for the time displacements for their own purposes.

At any rate, members will be encouraged to do the Ouroboros and Flashback content, as well as Portal missions at higher levels.

I have created!

The Great Gob, a master stage illusionist from the late 19th century. He uses his genius inventions to fight opponents. He's an electrical/device blaster. Like a guy in a $5000 suit is going to fight hand-to-hand. COME ON!

Looking forward to meeting The Great Gob!

I may not be on tonight, but there are others with invite privileges in the SG so invites may be doable even without me.  Just give a shout on the FR and NRF channel.

For those already on, if you haven't filled in your origin/description please do that when you can.  If you know how your character got time-stranded, put that in there.

Invite privileges will probably be changed a bit.  Journeymen/Lieutenants and higher will have invite and promote privileges, I think.  I have no problem with anyone from FR being promoted to the Journeyman rank or higher as soon as they join.  Non-FR invitees (of which there eventually ought to be) should come in as Patrolmen/Members without invite privileges.  Then after we get to know them, they can be promoted too.

I might hit 10 with my villain tonight, so if Viking hasn't already, I could set up the VG.  If that's the case, I'll be on long enough for people to make whatever toons they want in the group, unless Viking beats me to the punch.

Plenty of spots still open in Paradox Patrol!

We haven't even hit the 15 members for the Prestige Bonuses yet.  I think we need 5 more or so.  I plan to work on it over the weekend.

So, let's at least get to the 15 members, folks!  As a reminder, all Patrolmen are currently able to recruit (though not promote) members.  I'm not changing that until after the Prestige Grant.  Journeyman/Lieutenants will always be able to recruit and all FR-affiliated PC's should be Journeymen or higher.  (I still need to tweak the permissions to allow Journeymen to promote up to Journeyman.)

We need more Futurian characters to balance things out, and we haven't even begun to tap every historical period for Historical characters.  For alternate timeline characters, there's literally no limit to what you can do!

On the flipside, Tempus Fugitives is up and running and open for conspiratorial hijinks villainside.  Join now!  Or else!

what time should i look for you guys?  Captain Chronos is itching for his invite...lol.  Too bad I can't invite myself..or Golden-Starr would have recruited him.

I don't expect to be on before 10 PM EST or much after 12 AM.  Which kinda stinks, but there you go.  Might be off-and-on Saturday.

If I'm not on, send out a shout on the FR and NRF channel.  There are a few people in the group now who can do invites.  Alaric and Kommando for two.  I forget the others who joined at the moment.

FYI...

Paradox Patrol made it to 15 members, meeting the initial goal!

Permissions have been adjusted so that any Journeyman or higher is able to promote.  The low-ranked Patrolmen can't, but everyone else can promote up to their own rank.  Patrolmen can invite at this time, so that's not really a big deal.  Also, anyone Journeyman or higher is able to adjust their colors and emblems.

The idea is that anyone from here would have their characters at the Journeyman level or above and would be able to issue invites and promote other trusted players.

Speaking of promotions... I'd like to know which players would like to step up and take on some of the leadership.  I can't be on 24x7 and my desire is to have an active group that helps each other whether I'm around or not.  I'd like to see enough captains and commanders to keep things running without having to switch back and forth all the time.

Even though we won't be able to benefit any further from the coming Prestige Grant, all members are encouraged to keep their eyes peeled for other anachronistic heroes and let them know about Paradox Patrol.  I saw a Benjamin Franklin the other night, but was unfortunately too busy to try to recruit him.

Above all, have fun with it!  If we can organize some semi-regular team nights that would be outstanding!

FYI...

I've ditched my initial concept for Reign of Arrows, and instead have made a futuristic robotic Radiation/Radiation defender.

Radiotherapy Docbot!

He's hoping that some loyal Citizen will be able to invite him to this group of time-shifted heroes so that he may help heal them with minimally intrusive levels of radiation!

We'll see... If I get on at all tonight, it won't be until after 10 pm EST most likely.

I'll be on tonight but I never know how long I'm going to be able to stay.  Sometimes I'm on for hours and othertimes I do one mish and I've got to log.  I can't play every day but when I'm on it's usually somewhere in the range of 6:00 to 10:00 PM EST on the evenings before a workday (like tonight).  Weekends are a crapshoot. 

DK