We need a new thread anyway, with the new season a week away.
Anyhow, I just discovered that Dean Cain will appear as an evil scientist, and Hellen Slater will be playing Clark's mother. (and thus the new supergirl's aunt)
Just saw the new episode and I have a question
[spoiler]This new girl suppose to be supergirl? The way she was dress and acted I thought she was Wonder Woman[/spoiler]
Yes, she most definitely is.
I thought her look was great. Can't wait to see more of her next week.
I think Supergirl was/is really cool, and I'm not really a Supergirl fan either. Her clothes, quite obviously, like Clark are simply a red/blue motif, like thier costumes.
I'm really hoping for a Lex/Cara coupling. Lex/Lana is clearly on the outs and I thought that was an infintely better coupling than Clark/Lana (gag!)
For Canadian viewers watching the show on Thursdays on "A-Channel" it's been moved to Wednesdays starting this week.
Wow! Supergirl rocked. Great special effects.
And Lois and the Daily Planet? So great to see the origins of Lois Lane's life there. Poor Chloe. The way they handled it, you really had to feel for her.
I can't believe how much I just enjoyed this episode. If only the Superman movie franchise could be so well written.
It was definitely not a disappointment. It's amazing how much the show has evolved beyond the need for the "freak of the week" format it used to be.
I too was happy with the way Kara was done. They also seem to be borrowing a lot of plot from the current Superman and Supergirl comics where Kara is concerned, which works pretty well, I think.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on September 19, 2007, 06:38:19 PM
We need a new thread anyway, with the new season a week away.
Anyhow, I just discovered that Dean Cain will appear as an evil scientist, and Hellen Slater will be playing Clark's mother. (and thus the new supergirl's aunt)
Does this mean Clark's current mother is off the show?
By Clark's mother, I meant Jor-El's wife Lara, Clark's biological mother.
But yes, the character of Mrs. Kent is gone from the show. She may make guest appearances, but I can't even confirm that.
oh if anyone cares, James Marsters is returning as Brainiac this season
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 05, 2007, 07:27:02 AM
But yes, the character of Mrs. Kent is gone from the show. She may make guest appearances, but I can't even confirm that.
I stopped watching the show a while back, why is Mrs. Kent off the show?
-MJB
Quoteoh if anyone cares, James Marsters is returning as Brainiac this season
Good. I sort of suspected he might have something to do with the whole crystal stealing thing.
QuoteI stopped watching the show a while back, why is Mrs. Kent off the show?
As far as real reasons, I don't know. As far as in show reasons, she became a U.S. Senator thanks to Lionel's influence after the current state senator was killed as a result of some of the highly unscrupulous stuff he was messing with.
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on October 05, 2007, 09:45:22 AM
oh if anyone cares, James Marsters is returning as Brainiac this season
I most certainly DO care. I'm a big fan of both Marsters and Brainiac.
An addendum to my previous comment: according to the tv listings I go by, Smallville (in Canada) is back to Thursday at 8:00, but that might be because of Ontario elections which are being covered during the timeslot Smallville had last week (which was actually Wednesday, not Tuesday, I goofed) so time will tell which will be its regular slot.
I just saw the first episode. I missed most of season six (about 20 episodes of it) so I'm a little lost. It was a good return. I'm wondering how powerful is heat vision? I didn't really care for the introduction of Supergirl. I hope she develops better later on. It seems like a repeat of the chick that he found in the phantom zone, that was killed at the beginning of last season.
I am glad that they included a real shot of Shanghai instead of that horrid thing they had a few seasons back. It was cool seeing Lana walk down Nanjing Road...I'm sure it was all special effects though.
QuoteI hope she develops better later on.
Episode 2 is all about her.
Quote from: thalaw2 on October 07, 2007, 09:06:28 PM
I am glad that they included a real shot of Shanghai instead of that horrid thing they had a few seasons back. It was cool seeing Lana walk down Nanjing Road...I'm sure it was all special effects though.
I found that whole sequence kinda funny because between Kruek herself being half-chinese (even if Lana isn't) and her having dark hair (just like the majority of the asian population, including pretty everyone in that scene) wearing a wig wouldn't be nessisary to keep from being noticed, in fact, I thought it would make her stand out MORE. If you're walking the streets of Shanghai, and everyone on the block has dark hair and you see someone in the crowd with blond hair, who do you think's most likely to immediately grab your attention? It's almost like if Boba Fett was sitting in the middle of the Death Star run breifing, to give a way-off-topic example.
On the topic of the previous visit to Shanghai, well I have nothing good to say about that storyline, that whole season-long plot about the Countess and whatever was Lana-level gobbledegook of the worst kind.
A great performance, but I was waiting for them to say that one of his previous names was Vandal Savage. Never got that.
Cat, is that who he's supposed to be? I don't know much about Savage. Can you tell me more?
Af first, I thought they were playing Cain as just a deadly doctor. But when he pulled his SPOILER stuff, I thought it was great!
The best line of the night went to Clark talking to Cain. Something like, "We're not so different, you and I."
But I didn'r really understand what happened between Chloe and Jimmy. Why couldn't she tell him what was going on?
Oh ... and I really enjoyed watching Dean Cain do the pitch for the Christopher Reeve Foundation. He's the perfect spokesman for them now that Chris and Dana are gone. It was great seeing him wearing the Superman logo pendant. They should make Cain the official spokesman.
Ancient Spirit
[spoiler]After he's shot by Lex, the doctor got up talking about taking spears from Mayans and other historical bits of inflicted pain he's experienced. I can see how you get Vnadal Savage from that (Note: I've only seen the first 40 minutes or so - got the rest on tape)[/spoiler]
I think the whole Chloe/Jimmy things is that he seems highly prejudiced against meteorfreaks. I don't think it was handled too well.
You're right, Dean Cain does make a good spokesman.
QuoteCat, is that who he's supposed to be? I don't know much about Savage. Can you tell me more?
I don't know if he's supposed to be him or not, but he easily could be.
Most of what I know about Savage is from his DCAU appearances, but he's basically an ancient, immortal human who lived throughout all of human history. His sheer knowledge and resources gathered from all that time make him a formidable foe. All of that fits what we know about Cain's character.
While it was sort of a "freak of the week" episode, Cain did such a good job with it, and the crew weaved it into the general storyline, that it still was quite good.
i resently got hooked on smallville.i watched the episode were lex got possessed by zod and liked it so well i went out and bought all 6 season box sets.if my wife knew she'd kill me!!!also seeing several posts talking about guest appearances by greenarrow,cyborg, impulse, and aquaman also pushed me in the right direction.
Glitch, Cat -- thanks for the background on Savage. But I'm still missing one important beat. Was he a hero or a villian. (In this episode, clearly, he's a villian ... so that probably answers my question, but I thought I ask to be clear.)
After a kickass episode with Kara... then a lukewarm one with the beauty queens (just an excuse I think to put Kara in a bikini) ... this week's hit on Kara was back to awesome, IMHO. Also, just loved the way the writers worked in the Martian Manhunter's name. He's a great character.
About the only thing that didn't work for me with this episode was Lana asking if MM was from Krypton and being told, with a straight face, that he was from Mars. Lots of cool Mars stories came out of the 40s and 50s ... but knowing what we know now, the claim that MM comes from Mars seems kind of stupid to me.
Oh well ...
QuoteWas he a hero or a villian.
QuoteHis sheer knowledge and resources gathered from all that time make him a formidable foe.
Just in case it wasn't clear, AS, Vandal Savage has traditionally been a villain. He's shown up as a character in three separate Justice League stories (from the animated series, that is), where he also is a brilliant scientist.
Further background on Justice League Vandal Savage put in spoiler tags, just in case someone wants to avoid reading it:
[spoiler]The first time Vandal Savage appeared on Justice League, he had created a time portal, and sent a laptop computer with modern military schematics to himself in the past, so as to take command of the Nazis and win World War II.
The second time, he married into the royal family of an Eastern European nation that was funding a space program. He took control of that operation to channel its resources such that it was building not a space observatory, but a massive rail gun in space.
The final time was the second half of a "death of Superman" storyline - Supes had actually been sent forward in time to a post-apocalyptic version of Earth. He meets Vandal Savage, the sole survivor of the human race. It turns out that with Superman gone, Vandal Savage was able to successfully defeat the Justice League, but his plans also threw Earth's orbit out of whack and resulted in the extinction of the human race. Savage had since had several centuries of solitude for reflection, and helped Superman travel back to his own time with the information he'd need to stop Savage's prior plan, thereby preventing the cataclysm.[/spoiler]
I'm not the only one who noticed the simularities.
From the wikipedia article of Vandal Savage:
QuoteIn the seventh season of Smallville, Dean Cain, who portrayed Superman in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, guest stars as Dr. Curtis Knox, an immortal character very similar to (if not actually in secret) Vandal Savage. Like his comic-book counterpart he has used many different names over his centuries of life, one of which was Jack the Ripper. When Lex Luthor uses a photo recognition program to track Dr. Knox's previous identities, he is shown in a photo with Adolf Hitler during World War II, again a nod to the comic book version. Finally, the photos of Knox's past identities show him with a beard identical to that of Savage.
I'm sorry, I tried- but I find the new Supergirl just too painfully wooden and akward to watch. She creeps me out with that thousand yard stare of hers, to be frank.
I found last night's episode mediocre at best, but the coming attractions for next week seemed great ... and again focused on Supergirl. For me this is developing into a pattern where they altnerate between episodes that really grab me and episodes that leave me luke warm.
One cool item last night, though, was the whole bit with the cape.
But I don't have a CLUE as to why they've taken Lana Lang in this new direction. It felt ... unnecessary.
It is my suspicion of my household that Lana isn't really Lana, but the clone. They could have easily just said Lana put some blood or hair or something on the seat, or even left out the DNA evidence bit entirely. Instead they jumped to a bit about cloning that currently has no place in the story.
Some of the ads about the show where she returns outright stated "the Lana that returned isn't the one who left."
Just saw the episode "Action" and the coolest part is Lex comic collection.
This show is having a great (if uneven) season so far. Helen Slater, the old Supergirl from the movies, was outstanding as Kal-el's Mom, Lara. And for us old folks, I could believe how fantastic she looked. She must be in her mid- to late-forties (maybe even 50), and still has a great figure. Kara's story was compelling. And the show was able to put a real fresh coat of paint on the whole storytelling concept of the Flashback. Man, was Jor-el's brother a sleeze.
From the coming attractions, I fear for another "one great episode, followed by a lamer episode" pattern that seems to be developing this season ... as Lana gets superpowers next week. But then the week after, I understand it's back to Helen Slater and Lara, and I'm really looking forward to that.
I agree, it was a good episode, and fans may finally be able to forgive Hellen Slater for that Supergirl movie.
Brainiac is back! Or at least on his way back.
And the episode at least is important as far as the general storyline goes, even if the basic premise isn't even remotely original.
Another good episode, wit the missing Luthor storyline picked back up, the Zor-El one finished, and Clark about to be punished by Jor-El, whatever that means.
I liked it, too ... except for the "punishment" ending. Haven't we been here before?
And given the last time Clark "defied" Jor-el, didn't Johnathan die? If my daddy killed my beloved foster father, I'm not sure I'd be coming home so often for more.
And I sill don't understand blue kryptonite. In the Silver age, it was green kryptonite to Bizarros but had no effect on kryptonians. (Gold K robbed the powers, but that was permanent.) However, I have no problem buying that in the Smalleville universe it temporarily removes kryptonian superpowers. What troubled me throw was why Clark couldn't get the ring off.
He tried sawing if off. Duh! How do you saw through metal from krypton? By why didn't Clark try using SOAP? Or Vasaline? Even if Clark doesn't know how we mere mortals deal with tight rings, Chloe was there to advise him.
The bit with Lex and the editor of the Daily Planet was cool. But it did leave me wondering about past story lines that revolved around Lex and his family. So is this a problem with continuity? An outright mistake? Or is my ancient memory playing tricks on me?
And how dumb could Clark be thinking Kara would turn on her father, when at the exact same time he's thinking that he'll do anything for his Mom?
(Despite all this, I enjoyed the episode. No, really.)
One last, last thought: Now that Clark has seen Kara and Zor-el fly, he must realize that sooner or later he'll be able to fly. So why isn't he experimenting with it? (Especially since he was floating in his sleep during an earlier season.) Should we be seeing at least one episode where he tries? Or asks Kara about her first time (and by first time, I mean flying)? You think by this time he'd be curious at the least.
So, how long has Lana known about Clark's secret?
Lana and Clark made the earth move....hahahahahahaha!!!!! No wonder Chloe is jealous. When does anyone in the show actually....go to class?
QuoteThe bit with Lex and the editor of the Daily Planet was cool. But it did leave me wondering about past story lines that revolved around Lex and his family. So is this a problem with continuity? An outright mistake? Or is my ancient memory playing tricks on me?
In the past, they have mentioned that Lionel had an illegitimate son which he quietly and forcefully got the mother to send off to adoption, then buried it so no one would know. This was discovered in Season 2 when the mother thought Clark was her missing son and tried to kidnap him and force him to be her son and force Lionel to publicly recognize Clark as such. The real identity of the missing son was never revealed, although Lex seemed to want to find out. I don't know if this was brought up as much since, although I think the missing Luthor has been mentioned from time to time.
QuoteSo, how long has Lana known about Clark's secret?
Since the last episode of last season. Although she knew about his powers the episode she married Lex, just not their origin.
QuoteLana and Clark made the earth move....hahahahahahaha!!!!! No wonder Chloe is jealous. When does anyone in the show actually....go to class?
Dude, that was last week's episode! This week's was better anyway.
"Never with a human. They are too fragile."
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on November 16, 2007, 04:51:42 AM
QuoteLana and Clark made the earth move....hahahahahahaha!!!!! No wonder Chloe is jealous. When does anyone in the show actually....go to class?
Dude, that was last week's episode! This week's was better anyway.
Hey, cut me some slack, Cat. I have to wait for the subtitles to be added before show is aired in China. It's even worse with Heroes since Chinese aren't too fond of Japanese.
Well, you could have mentioned it was last week instead of breaking into a discussion about a completely different episode.
That and the content of said post irritated me, for reasons that it would not be polite to state publicly.
I didn't know I was a week behind until now (I thought I was just a few days out of sync). The post before mine was about Lana knowing Clark's secret...anyway...back to the topic.
Why can't Clark fly when conscious? Is it mental?
Nope. It's because, when they created the show seven years ago, they created one rule, "No Flights. No tights."
That made a lot of sense to me until everyone else started flying around. Kara in particular looks really cool taking off. The explanation they've given for her flight ability and his lack thereof, seems to be that "girls mature faster than boys." But their body types don't seem to bear that out. (of course, that's only by human standards and not kryptonian ... but still, its starting to feel very forced.)
I like how everybody that shows up on earth can use their powers better than Clark can.
Heh, yeah, especially since most Kryptonians can use Heat and X-Ray Vision even though it took Clark...18? 16? years to learn it...and even once or twice he learnt some powers by accident :D
And seeing how every mother and his son is flying now...give Clark some jumper boots! Sheesh. How's he gonna fight these guys? :P
I loved last episode, the fact that the story of Kara and his father has some resemblance the Supergirl in the comics nowadays feels kinda cool.
The no flying for clark it a total pain, especially when you see him flying in the opening of each episode.
So now we have blue K too?
How many variants have we seen already? Green, Red, Black, Silver & Blue? am i missing any of them?
*crosses fingers* Please no pink please no pink :banghead:
Yep, I just found out that the Feb 7 episode will feature Back Canary and the Green Arrow. Judging by the title of the episode, she will likely have her Canary Cry.
Just saw the ad for this episode, and yes, she is wearing the fishnets and does have the canary cry.
Argh! missed this week's! (power failure cut off the recording)
can someone spoil it for me?
Quote from: ips on February 04, 2008, 08:14:02 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/country:us/video/x49mwb_smallville-7x11-siren-trailer_shortfilms
Ugh. Could they possibly have made her look
less attractive? Black Canary should be a sultry siren, not a goth harpy.
Umm... kinda into the goth thing.
Now we have to remember that Black Canary is early in her career there... I'm sure that if she starts dating Green Arrow then her hair will probably get dyed yellowish blonde and take a more seductive look so that her alter ego can hang off Oliver Queen's arm in social events.
I just keep reminding myself that Smallville is trying to fix what Birds Of Prey had done but still come up with their own look.
- CrimsonQuill
Is it just me or is her look very... 80's somehow. The combination of the hair and the mask makeup and something about the cut of the costume reminds me of MTV circa Flock of Seagulls' "I Ran".
a) her hair was dark blonde, more of a sandy color not black.
b) other than the eye make-up, they stayed rather dead on with the costume from what I could see in the trailer. The eye make-up screamed Daryl Hannah in Blade Runner.
c) remember all we've seen is that one scene. we don't know what they'll do with her the rest of the episode.
d) some of us are into goth girls, thank you.
e) I should start trying to watch Smallville, I think. (haven't since season 2)
Smallville is a waste of time except when they have other DC characters on.
does anyone know when season 7 will come out on dvd?
I really like how they use actors from past Superman shows as characters in this. Jimmy Olsen got old.
Quote from: bredon7777 on February 05, 2008, 08:47:34 AM
Smallville is a waste of time except when they have other DC characters on.
You know, I really want to give a strong counter-argument, but honestly, I think you're probably right. Smallville has had some ridiculously clumsy writing throughout the entire series. I do indeed find myself enjoying the episodes with other DC characters in it a lot more. Such as they are.
The Black Canary episode is out online. I saw it and it wasn't bad. I like the way they did the effects for her sonics. Overall good episode.
When did Hawkman and Black Canary get their personalities transplanted?
Quote from: bredon7777 on February 10, 2008, 09:34:28 AM
When did Hawkman and Black Canary get their personalities transplanted?
The same time she went blonde, with Dinah wearing the wig?
who in the hell designed canary's look lol
I'm with ips on this one.
Ditto
i haven't seen the ep, never really watched small ville but i did have to laugh at the face paint,it was just a bad design choice
it looked like the face paint was a variation on Daryl Hannah's in Blade Runner
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 05, 2007, 12:22:14 PM
Quotestopped watching the show a while back, why is Mrs. Kent off the show?
As far as real reasons, I don't know. As far as in show reasons, she became a U.S. Senator thanks to Lionel's influence after the current state senator was killed as a result of some of the highly unscrupulous stuff he was messing with.
I thought she tool over the prosition that her husbend had won after he died because of Lionel's influence.
Quote from: ips on February 11, 2008, 08:46:43 AM
i loved the episode. i thought it was fun. you guys are purists i guess lol
If wanting the TV personality to stay true to the comics personality makes me a purist then I'm guilty.
Changes made for no good reason tick me off.
QuoteI thought she tool over the prosition that her husbend had won after he died because of Lionel's influence.
That's how she became a state senator, yes. Lionel used his influence to promote her to the U.S. Senate when the current Kansas senator died.