Shiny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Hb_d5Qnts)!
Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman...
And she said she'd never do that role. :D
Just wish they had given us a few voice samples of the main cast at work. I'm curious how the new casting sounds. The animation looks dead on, and the creative team is top notch.
I can't wait.
Wow!
Really, there's not much more I can say at this point.
Timm producing, of course, is great, and having the original comic writer involved is even more promising.
Looks like this may turn out to be a must-buy.
That looks very promising. I'm glad to see LL as WW and I'll have to say I laughed seeing Angel as the voice for Hal. :D
Of course, it's still a year away... :wacko:
This looks absolutely fantastic, and most of the voice cast looks cool, although I don't really see why they didn't just use some of the JLU cast. I understand they want some bigger names and all, but come on! Kevin Conroy IS Batman.
can't wait can't wait can't wait can't wait :P
Yeah It's really good to see Darwyn Cooke's work come to life, He's quickly become one of my favourite creators, even if he is pretty much washing his hands of DC for the time being after he finishes the first 12 Spirit issues and this movie.
It'll be really interesting to see how fans react to his character proportions and designs versus the Timm-style.
From what little I can see of them, I really like them. I was never really a fan of the stylized Timm-verse stuff. It worked well in Batman, but became way too exaggerated in JLU. The stories and writing were just so fantastic that it became a non issue for me. If I can get the same level of awesomeness with a more realistic style of art (perhaps not MUCH more, but at least Supes isn't as wide as a truck through the shoulders) I'm all for it!
So that's what the voices behind the characters look like.....Ignorance was bliss.
It still looks Timm-sy in a way .... lantern jaws, broad shoulders, etc.
heh, yeah people have said that Cooke's style is Timm without the steroids, coupled with an inker on them.
I like, I buy.
I miss the Timmverse :(
With all these straight to video things, the new batman series basically becomeing a Justice League series, all the timmverse stuff and the changing voice lineups from project to project etc....I sometimes start to feel like keeping the video continuity straight is getting a lot like keeping the comics continuity straight.
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on August 10, 2007, 10:46:32 PM
With all these straight to video things, the new batman series basically becomeing a Justice League series, all the timmverse stuff and the changing voice lineups from project to project etc....I sometimes start to feel like keeping the video continuity straight is getting a lot like keeping the comics continuity straight.
What video continuity? These aren't all supposed to be taking place in some sort of shared universe or anything. The 'THE Batman' has no connection to the direct-to-DVD stuff, which have no connection to the Timmverse shows (which do have continuity amongst themselves) which have no connection to the Legion of Super-heroes show, or Teen Titans, etc.
Right on Talavar.
Which the Timmniverse (Batman TAS and its follow up, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, Zeta Project, Justice League, JLU, and Static Shock) all have a shared contnuity, nothing else does. They are all separate.
QuoteThese aren't all supposed to be taking place in some sort of shared universe or anything.
Yeah I get that. I was just explaining poorly.
I realize they are all unique and seperate from one another.
You've got Batman version A by this network, Batman version B by this network, Batman version C in the Justice League by Network A, but with a different actor doing the voice.
Now I know you can look at it like each of these shows are like different comic titles with the same characters, but for me anyway, I have a hard time going from one to the other. I think it because on a comic, I can fill in sounds and voices and cadences of characters in my head, so while they are different, in my mind I can link them to into some kind of cohesion.
With the videos, because everything if supplied, sounds, music, voices etc.. I get latched into a certain "This is the character" mode. So when you have Batman not done by Kevin Conroy, It takes me a little while to adjust. That last superman DVD, aside from the fact it was utter crap, I spent half the movie bothered by the fact that Luthor wasn't voiced by Clancy Brown, and as a result, I couldn't get into it (also cause it was crap). The whole thing just felt off to me. It was like in my childhood when they changed actors playing Ronald McDonald....messed with me for months....
Maybe Im just getting old and the synapses aren't firing like they should.
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Looks great. Bummer about the 70 min running time. I wonder what they're chopping out?
http://media.dvd.ign.com/media/142/14221172/vids_1.html
This is off topic but your sig scared the crap out of me. :( :thumbup:
Cant wait to see it though. And JL new frontier.
Quote from: gengoro on December 20, 2007, 07:16:51 PM
This is off topic but your sig scared the crap out of me. :( :thumbup:
Cant wait to see it though. And JL new frontier.
LOL! Thanks, it creeps me out too. :(
Hmm... watching the new trailer, I don't recall Batman involve in the fight with that creature island. It seems WB put a lot of heroes that weren't in the graphic novel.
Wow. It looks great, I'll love it.
That said, I got to see The Flash be potrayed by Doogie Howser, MD and for the his clip, I got to see him GET CAUGHT BY A TINY NET!!
Please, just don't write him into the cartoons if you hate him so much, people. I'm sick of seeing him always be the first to get knocked out and I'm sick of him running at "super speed" which is really "blurry normal speed" SLOWER than Superman's normal flight speed. I'm not too crazy about him becoming just the guy who makes the lecherous comments and eats food and makes the corny jokes. Bruce Timm openly admitted to not liking Flash, but I really do like him. I know Timm eventually did find him some stuff for him to do but it felt like too little too late.
I think Wally's Flash was not played especially imaginitively in the JLU series. But, I also don't think it was really disrespectful to the character, whatever Timm's personal appreciation for the character might have been. Sure he was shown under a net, but that doesn't mean he didn't get away and, later he was shown fighting Grodd. And, obviously, Neal Patrick Harris is never going to completely diverce his image from Googie Howser, but that doesn't mean he can't be a great voice talent and may have a completely non-Doogie vocal presence, much like Mark Hamil's Joker and Solomon Grundy were completely non-Luke Skywalker.
Meanwhile, a similar complaint that comes up with Superman is true of Flash: if he used his super-speed consistently, he would be almost impossible to beat. (With Flash, I'm not saying that he would always beat any opponent, but very few opponents could ever beat him.) So, it becomes hard to write him effectively into the storylines and he is portrayed as the wise-cracking comedic character so that he still has a presence.
The JLU episode where Lex Luthor is does a mind switch with Wally is very telling because he thwarts many of the League's heavy hitters to escape from the satellite base. And, though the element of surprise was a factor, there can be no doubt that the Flash's powers put him in the big leagues when they are used creatively.
Paul Atreides as Superman, Xena as Wonder Woman, Angel as Green Lantern, Doogie as Flash and some guy I have never heard of at all. Very interesting.
I thought they showed Kyle MacLachlan doing Superman's voice... I have no idea who Jeremy Sisto is, though. But, I think that's fine with this sort of project. What matters is that they can do a voice that we can buy as the character and that they have the skill for voice acting (timing, energy, etc.) to pull it off.
Yeah, when Flash took on Lex/Brainiac that showed what he could do pretty well. He was the one that beat him while everyone else was beaten. When everyone had Eclipso too, it was Flash all by his lonesome. He just can't do that in every fight or it would get old.
Flash also gets caught in a net in the original source material, DC - the New Frontier, so you can't really blame this on the animated adaptation.
He gets netted while stunned, if I remember the New Frontier comic. He then vibrates through the net to avoid capture by the government.
Also, New Frontier is pretty much an Elseworld ... so there's no use going nuts over continuity.
Quote from: stumpy on December 26, 2007, 06:32:46 AM
I thought they showed Kyle MacLachlan doing Superman's voice...
David Lynch's 1984 version of Dune
D'oh! It sounded so much like a real name that I didn't realize what you were doing there. :blush:
I think the JL: NF movie looks pretty cool. This is the same trailer that is on the Superman: Doomsday movie, which left me pretty psyched.
Yeah, saw that by chance at DC's site yesterday. Sweetness.
I really enjoyed reading Darwyn Cooper's series as TPBs (I LOVE my local library!). It captures well the innonence and idealism and yet the challenges of the Silver Age (set right before the Kennedy Administration, US). And this DVD looks like it does a good job carrying the same art style and feel of the comic book series.
Agreed, Lawless will be great as WW, Kyle Maclachlan as Supes will be just fine I'm sure, and though I'm not familar with the fellow who is slated to do the voice of Bats I'm certain he'll be great as well.
I'll probably pick up a copy of the DVD when it comes out.
Quote from: BWPS on December 25, 2007, 05:27:40 PM
I'm not too crazy about him becoming just the guy who makes the lecherous comments and eats food and makes the corny jokes.
The New Frontier Flash is Barry, not Wally, so there shouldn't be any womanizing or adolescent humor. He has some great moments in the comic (including a neato battle with Captain Cold) -- hopefully some of that will make it into the DVD.
Just finished watching JL: The New Frontier. Umm.. not going to say where I got it. :ph34r:
Anyways the animation was pretty impressive, it blows Marvel's direct to DVDs animation out of the water. It was way better than Superman: Doomsday. Story was well written, even though they cut a few things out from the graphic novel, the pacing was great. Kinda focused on GL alot, which I didn't mind.
The VAs were really good, Lucy was born to play Wonderwoman. Whoever voiced Superman puts Mr. Baldwin to shame. I didn't mind the VA for Batman, but everyone knows that Kevin Conroy has the best Batman voice ever! :P
Here's my rating:
Story: 4/5
Animation: 5/5
VAs: 4.5/5
Going to pick up this baby when it hit stores. Can't wait for Teen Titans and Gotham Knights. DC owns Marvel in the DTV department. :lol:
Animation and voice acting were great, my only grief is that most of the first issue is merely shown in the opening credits (Hourman's death, the disbanding of the Justice Society and so on), John Henry's bits were only mentioned towards the end and even that was interrupted by the Flash's good-bye speech and the fight with Wildcat with some of the members of the Justice Society watching wasn't included either, only a few seconds of showing Wildcat in his boxing shorts and gloves. Also, Taskforce X disappeared and the bits about that guy not wanting Hal up in the space-ship because it could get Hal killed were removed.
But, despite all that, it was still a great story and a decent movie.
Oh, and one final thing: "HAWK-AAA!" :D
Quote from: Midnite on January 18, 2008, 03:57:51 PM
Just finished watching JL: The New Frontier. Umm.. not going to say where I got it. :ph34r:
Me too, but I knew I'd buy it regardless of when it came out. We had something of a movoe marathon, watching Superman: Doomsday, JL: NF, andf marvel's Dr. Strange, in that order.
Wow, Midnite is right on the money, watching doc strange afterwards was downright painful. I would love for NF to be akin to a pilot episode of a silver age JLA series grounded in history.
It was very well done. The voices were excellent, but not distractingly familiar. Anyone could quibble about this or that bit of history or power use, but I thought the overall characterizations were excellent. I easily could have been reading a classic back issue from that era, except better, since this was written for a more mature audience than were comics of the time. I echo the desire for a silver-age series based on the merits of this feature.
I also thought this movie was pretty well done even though I have no real knowledge of the series it's based on. However, it did make me want to read it just to compare/contrast so if they were shooting for that, then they succeeded. It would be nice if a silver age toon was made, but I don't really think it'd catch on with the current generation of kids and they'd really have to tone down the violence/language for it to happen.
Hey, so where did you guys find copies of this DVD???? Every where I look it says that it hasn't been released yet (at least not in the US).
Quote from: Dr.Volt on January 27, 2008, 08:08:53 AM
Hey, so where did you guys find copies of this DVD???? Every where I look it says that it hasn't been released yet (at least not in the US).
There are preavailable copies floating around and I've even managed to snag it myself in the last few days.
I'm totally in agreement that DC/Warner should make a JLA series extending from this movie because the voices, designs, and dialogue were spot on. Plus I had that same feeling in my gut that I had watching Bruce Timm's Batman, Superman, and Justice League cartoons which kept me glued to my seat and wanting to see more. :thumbup:
- CrimsonQuill
Part of me liked this much more than the previous Timmverse, because of Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman the harder edge that you couldn't really get away with in a kid's show. In particular, I loved Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman the way Martian Manhunter was portrayed when he had the gumshoe disguise, and the fact more than half the movie was the characterization of the heroes. Also, the fanboy in me squeed at Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman Hal Jordan as the Green Lantern and Barry Allen as The Flash.
Bwahahaha. :lol:
I liked those things, too. I was even a little surprised by how easily I bought Lucy Lawless as Diana. I mean, given her acting credits, she's a natural for that type of role, but I was worried that the flinty quality to her voice might be distracting. But it never bothered me. And, I think the DVD outtakes of her in the recording booth show the enthusiasm that she brought to the part. Frankly, I enjoyed all of the voice acting, including Brooke Shields as Carol Ferris, Kyra Sedgwick as Lois Lane, and Vicki Lewis (the girl from News Radio) as Iris West.
I didn't like it that much. Maybe because I didn't the book before hand. I like the way Wonder woman was done (she's slightly taller than Supes). I didn't like the VA for Batman and the Martian Manhunter was nothing I expected.
What I did like was The flash & Green Lantern. They were done great.
Actually, I was wondering about that, too. How tall is Wonder Woman supposed to be now? At one point, she was listed at 5'11". Is she 6'3" or something these days? I recall reading at one point that Clark is 6'2" (though I also thought he was 6'3"), so that would make sense from this movie.
Does she ever use a secret ID? It would be pretty tough if she were that tall. I mean, 6'3" isn't that tall for a guy, but a woman that tall is going to be noticed. One girlfriend of mine was 6'2" and it was not easy for her to blend into a crowd.
easily one of the best JLA adaptions done, and this movie was great, i too would like to see a spin-off. but i think it would cost a bit too much.... Neil Patrick Harris, Brooke Shields, and David Borneaz might sound cheap, but they're probably a bit more expensivve than the regular voice actors... even Kevin Conroy (i hope thats his name)
but yeah, this was great, i can tell that the flick has inspired Revenant with his skins, I really wish DC would make a Spirit movie based on Darwyn Cookes work too.
Sounds promising. I just can't imagine NPH as the voice of a superhero.
when did Wonder Woman go from 5'11" to 6'2" or 6'3"?
I wish I knew. I read on a comics forum a long time ago that the artist working on the book at the time (this must have been '05 or so) considered her to be 6'2" - 6'3", according to an interview in Wizard magazine or some such. I never checked into it. I think the Who's Who site still has her at 5'11". But, if she is being portrayed as taller than Clark or Bruce, then she has to be well over 6'...
To be perfectly honest, 5'11" would be fine. That's already taller than 99.4% of women (in the U.S., ages 18-24). That's already statistically equivalent to a male who is 6'5". To my thinking, it's important that she's noticeably tall, but it isn't necessary that she be in the upper 0.001% of the population.
BUMP!
This will be airing on cartoon network (http://cartoon-network-news.newslib.com/story/9822-924/). Tomorrow. 9 pm E/T. So go catch it if you haven't seen it.
I noticed the station barely advertised this (but they advertised the heck out of star wars), so I wanted to get the word out there since I kinda forgot about them airing Gotham Knights 2 weeks ago. <_<