If you aren't going into this film expecting a big ol' hunk of gouda, there's something wrong with you. It's not cheesy for the same reasons as the animated film - budgetary constraints - obviously, and that may be the crux. This new film is topped with multiple kinds of cheese.
For those unfamiliar with the franchise (dragged out by the kids, or just looking for 'splody goodness), the whole idea of giant robots with such distinct personalities is gonna get to them.
For those unfamiliar with Generation One, a whole heaping load of nudge-nudge-wink-wink moments are just going to seem like bad writing.
For the 'true believers', well, you've already seen most of the bad in all the advertising. Warning! There is a lot of focus on the 'human element' in the film - if this is an issue, maybe have some second thoughts.
For general viewers, mass product placement, slow-mo action*, a particularly cheesy bit of 'acting' by Jazz as he is introduced, and a horribly 'funny' scene with the bots at the Witwicky home.
*I would have preferred quite a bit more of this actually - the action scenes are very busy and can sometimes be hard to follow, especially when they take up the whole screen.
As to other general issues:
It might have been nice if they could have made some of the bots more visually distinct from one another, especially the Decepticons.
There is quite a bit of sexual innuendo, but I'm pretty sure 'innuendo' is the wrong word - What's the opposite of Innuendo? And some toilet humor as well.
The main adversarial human character was played for humor, but really needed to be a serious player.
Don't you think the whole thing about extra scenes during and after the credits has run it's course? I only stayed as far as the[spoiler]Starscream one.[/spoiler]
If you are a G1 fan who hasn't already had their childhood raped by this, you may well like it for all the references. Everyone else, just think of it as giant robots beating the crap out of each other, with an underlying alien invasion story.
Buffy fans - watch out for Tom Lenk (Andrew) in a bit part.
Quote from: Lycus on June 28, 2007, 11:17:18 PMBuffy fans - watch out for Tom Lenk (Andrew) in a bit part.
I had already noticed Tom's cameo in the TV trailers.
-MJB
Just a note, all the reviews I've come across have been extremely positive, so I probably went overboard in my attempts to be 'fair and balanced'. I did really, really, really, (really) like this movie. It was good.
I don't like big loud Hollywood movies and I'm only familiar with Transformers because, like most kids, I watched the cartoon. To my suprise, I really enjoyed this film. Sure it was big, dumb and crude, but it had a lot of energy, moved along at a good pace and the action was really well choreographed.
When the film ended, I was genuinely amazed that I had been entertained by a film about giant toys for 2 hours plus!
On the downside:
The movie has a really appalling amount of product placement ... Ebay, General Motors, The Strokes even Furby of all things! Very unsubtle.
:spoiler: :spoiler: :spoiler:
Also, Jazz (my childhood favourite) has a really poor showing in this film.
It was one of the best blockbusters i've ever seen!
it did its job very well as an incredibly complex, engaging and spectacular advertisement for a WIDE range of products, Rise of the silver surfer served product placement up with cheese (delicious by the way), while transformers does it with panache.
i really enjoyed the comedy bits, and the human element was pretty good. since i'm really only a G1 fan, thats when i grew up, i loved the characters they used, and i thought that the way how the robots moved really allowed for the redesigns to actually look like the original counterparts.
My one friend told me that the movie made him proud to be an american, you can see why, but this movie isn't without its political leanings.
Loud Explosive and full of action, i don't know how this blockbuster can be topped. but i still have to see die hard.
u guys already saw it?
i haven't yet
it says july 3rd
I'll be going to see this.......and I REALLY want to like it because I love the characters so much, but I am quite afraid.
i live in asia, all big movies will probably be released here first to cut down on piracy. 5 out of thje 8 screens were playing transformers when i went on the weekend.
I'm in Australia ... I'm not sure who the film's release schedule works.
Also, Benton ... keep your expectations for the film low. I had zero expectations and enjoyed it quite a bit. I mean, it has giant robots having slow-mo John Woo-style two-gun shoot-outs in crowded city streets ... absolutely ridiculous, but entertaining.
Movies only open on Thursdays here, that combined with school holidays starting on the 2nd, means biggest profit is from opening June 28.
Heard it doesn't open till end of July in England though. Bad luck if that's true.
I should be a movie reviewer.
2 July 2007 imdb.com
Movie Reviews: 'Transformers'
Michael Bay's Transformers enters an already crowded movie marketplace in many cities today (Monday) in advance of an "official" opening on Tuesday. By and large, it's attracting positive reviews. Roger Ebert in the Chicago Sun-Times describes the movie as "goofy fun with a lot of stuff that blows up real good, and it has the grace not only to realize how preposterous it is, but to make that into an asset." Manohla Dargis in the New York Times remarks that the movie seems to be "designed as the ultimate in shock-and-awe entertainment." It is, she adds, "part car commercial, part military recruitment ad, a bumper-to-bumper pileup of big cars, big guns and, as befits its recently weaned target demographic, big breasts." Some critics seem amazed by their own enjoyment of the film. For example, Desson Thomson writes in the Washington Post: "Before you dismiss this movie as toy porn for overgrown boys (not that there's anything wrong with that), consider this: Never was this goofy rapture explored with more fun. For the non-Transformer heads among us, who couldn't tell an Autobot from a Decepticon, it's a wonderfully playful experience." And Roger Moore in the Orlando Sentinel puts it this way: "We knew it would be dumb. But we had no idea it would be so much dumb fun." Lou Lumenick interrupts his review of the movie in the New York Post to remark: "A box-office analyst whom I respect predicts Transformers will be the year's top-grossing flick. If the enthusiastic response I saw at a screening the other night is any indication, predominately male audiences will flock to see some of Hollywood's most lavish special effects ever, climaxing in a battle that destroys much of downtown Los Angeles."
OK Im gonna voice the minority here...
It was Dumb dumb dumb.
I realize people are latching onto the cheese factor as part of the fun (John Turturro nailed it better than anyone else did), but the tone of film the was all over the map. It was like 4 different movies all being mashed together into one, but none of them worked. Its an action blockbuster, Its a slapstick comedy, its a romance, Its a government thriller...its all of them, and yet somehow none of them.
When I come out of a movie about Transforming giant robots attacking earth, and the only part i really cared about was the storyline about a unpopular kid getting his first car and trying to land the hot girl...well houston we have a problem.
Regardless of my issues with the movie, the CGI was really impressive from a purely CGI standpoint, it was just overly complicated and often hard to follow the action.
Saw it tonight. I couldn't stop smiling with childlike glee for an hour after the movie ended. It was just so awesome. Felt like I was 5 all over again and had just seen the first movie. Here's hoping it makes more money than the crap that was Spidey 3.
I will never understand the hatred for Spidey 3..............
Quote from: BentonGrey on July 03, 2007, 12:13:56 AM
I will never understand the hatred for Spidey 3..............
fanboy stampeed, it makes them feel secure.
Quote from: lugaru on July 03, 2007, 03:31:00 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on July 03, 2007, 12:13:56 AM
I will never understand the hatred for Spidey 3..............
fanboy stampeed, it makes them feel secure.
Fanboy? Hardly. Never purchased a spidey comic in my life. Hell, spud calls me a Venom fanboy, yet I can count on one hand the number of Venom comics I bought in my lifetime. It was one.
Spidey 3 was hyped as the "biggest thing evar!!11!1" and instead, it was a crammed together piece of crap that reached nothing near what was expected of it. I expected the best story of the series, instead I got a medicore movie that would have been barely worth grabbing a torrent of until it had long been released on DVD. Oh sure, it made a fortune, but that was just proof of how great of a hype machine Sony can throw out there. People expected something better than Spidey 2. Instead they got something more on par with the Fantastic Four movies.
I went into Transformers fearing the worse. Sure the previews made it look pretty, and I've been a Transformers fan since I was a toddler, but Michael Bay usually nullifies any sort of hope when it comes to a movie. I still wanna kick him in the jimmies for the Doolittle raid at the end of Pearl Harbor. But lo and behold, the movie not only surpassed my meagre expectations, it damn well blew them out of the water. I've watched the original series recently. What was great when I was 6 isn't so great when you're in your 20's. I still love the original movie just for cheese and nostalgia alone. This movie delivered on the action, the cheese, the nostalgia, the special effects and lack of suck.
I got goosebumps during some scenes, laughed alot, and basically felt like I was a kid again. All Spidey 3 did was make me groan at the utter mess of it all.
QuoteI got goosebumps during some scenes, laughed alot, and basically felt like I was a kid again. All Spidey 3 did was make me groan at the utter mess of it all.
Reverse Spidey 3 and Transformers.... and I almost agree ;)
This was hands down the best Action movie I ever seen!
I enjoyed the movie no doubt about it.
Wound up liking Megan Fox in that role more than I thought I would. Granted it was more the character than her but nevermind that.
:thumbup: two thumbs up
Just came back from seeing it with some friends. To be honest I'm not really sure if I liked it or not. There's alot of cheesiness but it's better than Spidey 3 in that regard. The graphics were pretty good, but the story was kinda weak. I probably would have enjoyed it more if there was less focus on the humans. Not that it was necessarily bad, I just prefer Transformers without humans involved.
It's definitly a Micheal Bay action movie.
The best part though? TOM LENK WAS IN IT!! YAY!!
Saw Transformers. Loved Transformers. Go see it.
Also, understanding the utter dislike of Spider-Man 3 is simple. It was poorly done, overhyped, crammed together trash that started out well and just fell apart. I don't even care about what they changed or whatnot. The movie itself was just BAD.
I've been debating if I should wait for the DVD or spend $30+ to take the family to see this.
-MJB
Quote from: ips on July 04, 2007, 07:36:05 AM
if you did NOT religiously watch the 80s cartoon as a kid though you probably won't get all the subtle things thrown in for fans of the original and your enjoyment will not be as emphatic imo.
Soo true! i was in a theatre of Koreans, and when kid starts saying "more than meets the eye" i was laughing so hard, and nobody understood why. they really laughed at the Japanese jokes though
MJB - i'd say it depends how old your kids are. this is a really violent and LOUD movie, but theres no blood and guts, only lots of explosions.
I really enjoyed much of it, was totally disgusted with part. The Transformers of the 80s was always kid-friendly (you know, a cartoon based on toys kids play with). This movie isn't. For one, they went 'way too far with some of the gratuitous sexual innuendo (and more).
This was a movie with a tremendous amount of potential, but for some reason they chose to throw in junk that did nothing to advance the plot or characters. It's the "let's add raunch in to get the 13 rating and act like it's more 'mature' than a movie about toy robots" syndrome.
The Transformers cartoon is something I can sit down and watch with my daughter. I was hoping the movie would be family-friendly as well.
Maybe I'll get it off TV if they edit it. Otherwise, this was a one-shot movie for me.
could someone tell me something, i'm not a major transformers fan but is that annoying little rhyming git from the 80's movie in it
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on July 04, 2007, 09:35:58 AM
could someone tell me something, i'm not a major transformers fan but is that annoying little rhyming git from the 80's movie in it
His name is Wheelie... He made his debute in the animated movie when he encounter Grimlock and then decided to tag along. I guess if they could get used to Grim's odd caveman language then Wheelie might be slightly less annoying... :blink:... maybe. :banghead:
- CrimsonQuill
Edit: Oops, misread what you typed UE... sorry. Yeah, Wheelie doesn't make an appearance in the movie and probably never will make it into the this new franchise if they are smart about it... but one of the '80s movie characters does appear in the game (Arcee as a motorcycle).
yeah i know his name i heard a rumor he has a small part in the live action film
Wheelie doesn't not make an appearance in the movie
thank god, i know i have no right to moan when my fav show brought us orko lol
[spoiler] i heard he makes a cameo during a scene in the credits, as starscream has an extra scene[/spoiler]
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on July 04, 2007, 12:15:06 PM
Wheelie doesn't not make an appearance in the movie
ah...so there
is a god. :lol:
Quote from: ips on July 04, 2007, 09:21:11 AM
personally, when i become a parent i'll be a lot more willing to expose my kids to issues of sexuality then violence.
i don't understand the concern of sexual innuendo jokes, but lack of concern of people getting killed in various messy ways or robots destroying eachother.
for the record... there is sexual innuendo but no more than you would expect from a story centered around a 17yo teenage boy trying to fit in in highschool. that's what this movie is really about... spike's life - it just happens to get sidetracked when a series of unusual events occur.
Don't get me wrong. Over-the-top, graphic, gratuitous violence doesn't appear in my house either. But at least a certain level of violence can be used to illustrate the battle between good and evil and can show the nobleness of those who fight to protect others. Raunchiness illustrates, well, raunchiness. No redeeming value at all.
Buy I don't want to get into political, politically correct, or other related debates. Just stating an opinion. Stated and done. :)
Just got back from seeing it. It was just awesome. The audience I was with thought the same. It seemed everyone laughed & cheered at all the right spots. I will try and see it again on the big screen. That's something I've never done for any movie. Here's waiting for TF2 in another couple of years!
Quote from: Pyroclasm on July 04, 2007, 07:43:41 PM
Just got back from seeing it. It was just awesome. The audience I was with thought the same. It seemed everyone laughed & cheered at all the right spots. I will try and see it again on the big screen. That's something I've never done for any movie. Here's waiting for TF2 in another couple of years!
Agreed, it was plain awesome. I can't wait to see it again. :D
its a shame that jazz died even tho i hardly knew him
can't wait for the sequeL!
jazz was portrayed poorly, and did NOTHING anyways, so...meh. :P
Saw it. Loved it. Go see it.
-MJB
I saw it today along with Die Hard 4 as a double feature.... 4th Of July needs lots to action and fireworks so these films sure fit the bill.
Transformers was fantastic in my book and very much the reboot required for stepping away from the '80s animated series but modernizing it at the same time. I was quite happy with Optimus Prime even with the flame paint job once I noticed that a mouth-guard appeared during the combat scenes.. because even with them (ILM) needing his mouth for dialogue matching and emotional expressions they did find ways to keep his classic face in the battle scenes. Sure the plot was very thin and they had to focus on Sam more then the robots.. still not sure why though.. must be hard for the "typical" movie goer to relate with cars that emote (Pixar's Cars anyone?) The addition of the soldiers as main characters was quite nice because I was hoping that they would end up taking over Sector 7 and form the Autobot Earth Defence Force in further sequels. I still have no idea what the whole hacker side story was for when they could have just stuck with a few characters discovering the code and have a cameo appearance by Chip Chase as a uber hacker (could have been fun quip on the modern Hacker community). Once the action really started everything else was just put aside from that point and became an eye candy scene after eye candy scene. Once I finally got to take a breath at the end it was just disappointing that after a few hours you just wanted the film to keep going. I'm definitly going to be first in line for the sequels yet to come just to see what characters they bring on screen next.
I also picked up the PC version of the Transformers Movie game which really expands on the film even further (including a few classic characters added just for the game - including Arcee as a motorcycle) but also having Frank Welker doing the voice of Megatron in the game just makes me realize how much I missed it in the movie itself.
- CrimsonQuill
Note: VPMax fans rejoice the PC game allows me to access the voices in the game to use for future packs if anyone is interested in using them.
Quote from: crimsonquill on July 04, 2007, 09:32:09 PM
I also picked up the PC version of the Transformers Movie game which really expands on the film even further (including a few classic characters added just for the game - including Arcee as a motorcycle) but also having Frank Welker doing the voice of Megatron in the game just makes me realize how much I missed it in the movie itself.
I got two questions on the movie that CQ made me think about.
~ How well does Hugo Weaving do voicing Megatron?
~ Does Bumblebee get his voice back in the movie?
Quote from: Night Dragon on July 04, 2007, 10:58:29 PM
Quote from: crimsonquill on July 04, 2007, 09:32:09 PM
I also picked up the PC version of the Transformers Movie game which really expands on the film even further (including a few classic characters added just for the game - including Arcee as a motorcycle) but also having Frank Welker doing the voice of Megatron in the game just makes me realize how much I missed it in the movie itself.
I got two questions on the movie that CQ made me think about.
~ How well does Hugo Weaving do voicing Megatron?
~ Does Bumblebee get his voice back in the movie?
You can't even tell it's him. Alot of people think they took welker's and his voice and combined em together. Let's just say, it's perfect for the version of megs they have.
And yah, B get's his voice back at the end, but it's "hoarse" to some degree.
i think Bumble started to get his voice back after he fell on the powerlines but not sure at one point he did for good
the game is pretty good too, i just started playing it, and its seems to runs a bit better than spidey 3. my pc is getting old :(
I liked it. It's the stupidest movie I've seen in a long, long time, but as I've been saying for a while-- if there's one movie Michael Bay can do right, it's Transformers. :)
I saw the movie on July 4t and totally Loved It! My wife wasn't all that excited about going, but after the movie she said that she really enjoyed it. I thought that the CG was great, I thought the actors did fairly good jobs, and the cheese was humorous. I hated the whole "mouth-thing" on Prime, but I got over it quick. The movie will definately support a couple of sequels (those who left the theatre early, Starscream escapes into space). Characterization might have been rushed (or none), but it introduced movie-goers to a whole new franchise of Transformers. Megatron was fantastic in my opinion. I was impressed with the voice actor. He was as evil as the original, and was definately feared by the Autobots.
I too was hoping for something that didn't toe the line of sexually crude humor... but I guess they felt that the audience needed it. I was hoping for something that I could take some of my younger nephews to, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with taking them. And I was kinda caught off gaurd when people in the theatre laughed when Megs flicked the man.
Overall I loved the movie. It met and exceeded MOST of my expectations.
One question: :spoiler:
What happened to Barricade? My wife says that he was taken-out early in the interstate scene? I didn't notice this happen...
Quote from: XStream on July 05, 2007, 08:32:05 PM
One question: :spoiler:
What happened to Barricade? My wife says that he was taken-out early in the interstate scene? I didn't notice this happen...[/color][/b]
[spoiler]They didn't show what happened to him. Bonecrusher pushed himself in front of Barricade during the highway scene, and then encountered Prime. Barricade's role in the movie just ended. There has been speculation on the Transformers boards that he and Bonecrusher both fought Prime, but that Barricade's scene was simply cut. This is backed up by the novelization, Prime's lateness to the main battle, and Barricade's door which could be seen when they are dumping the dead chassis in the trench. Unless they add his scene back in the DVD (Hopefully along with correcting the "Devastator" typo.), it would leave him open for return. Then again, when I saw where they were choosing to get rid of the bodies, the thought of Megatron building his underwater base (as in G1) immediately sprang to mind. Oh, and about Starscream, according to his toy's repaint bio, he flies into the upper atmosphere to remain hidden for now. If you recall, TFs can only be picked up on radar if they wish to be.[/spoiler]
Just saw it today. Really good movie, though I will miss Jazz. Some of the side stories like the hacker one were a bit unncessary and cut into the robot v robot action imo. Like previously said, can't wait for TF2.
I'm sure Star Scream is going out to find reinforcements or something.
What I want to see for TF2.
Optimus singal gets picked up by a few Autobots, adding more to their squad. (Maybe two or three)
It is then revealed that there is something or another that can restore Cybertron but it would be at the cost of the earth.
StarScream comes back with his own team, since we all know he considers himself the true leader and only obeys Megatron due to strength diferrences.
They fight over it, both sides wishing to bring back Cybertron (though the Autobots either don't know the consequences or one of their members choose to misinform them).
Final fight scene occurs and they destroy the device, realizing it's costs are too high. (throw in some parrallels to humans destruction of rain forest/artic/etc and you have a movie)
Near the end they show the singal being recieved Unicron who begins to move toward Earth. Thus bringing about TF3 where he comes to consume Earth and brings back Megatron, uses the remaining Deceptacons, and his own forces.
and and
megatron might transform into galvatron eh?
Nah. I just want to see a planet eating entity done right since FF2 screwed it up.
BTW Megan Fox reported to MTV that they are writing the script for TF2 and Micheal Bay has stated he is open to directing a second one (take it as you wish).
Anyone know what that werd JJ Abrams trailer was about? I've heard it's the new Godzilla movie (since die hard fans swear it's the same roar from the original movie) and others have mentioned it being the Voltron movie (the thing destroying everything being a robeast).
QuoteAnyone know what that werd JJ Abrams trailer was about?
The JJ Abrams movie (from what Ive read) is supposedly some kind of cthulu-like monster like film involving prophecies and the end of the world but done blair witch style through camcorder POV stuff from people trying to survive. The viral marketing campaign kicked into gear with the following sites:
http://www.1-18-08.com/ (http://www.1-18-08.com/)
http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/ (http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/)
http://ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com/ (http://ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com/)
There may be more but these are the ones Ive read about thus far.
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on July 06, 2007, 10:32:31 PM
QuoteAnyone know what that werd JJ Abrams trailer was about?
The JJ Abrams movie (from what Ive read) is supposedly some kind of cthulu-like monster like film involving prophecies and the end of the world but done blair witch style through camcorder POV stuff from people trying to survive. The viral marketing campaign kicked into gear with the following sites:
http://www.1-18-08.com/ (http://www.1-18-08.com/)
http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/ (http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/)
http://ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com/ (http://ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com/)
There may be more but these are the ones Ive read about thus far.
I only got past the first puzzle on the middle link there. I'll probably give the other one another go later. Interesting video if you figure it out.
I saw this and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'll be posting my more in-depth thoughts tomorrow. In short, there were a lot of things I wish they had done differently, and the transformers designs are still ugly, but the movie was still a lot of fun.
I have a question.
[spoiler]My family and I left right after the Starscream scene during the credits. Did we miss any additional scenes after that? If so would someone be kind enough to describe them to me/us?[/spoiler]
-MJB
I second MJB's request... left right after the Starscream-blasting-into-space-scene (it was 1:00 AM, and I had to catch the last train back to my place), anything else happen afterwards?
Loved the film (and I'm saying that as a lapsed Transformers fan... I was more of a GI Joe/Bionic 6 kid), and my only complaint (if you can call it that) is that they needed to dial back Megan Fox's hotness factor... I couldn't properly focus on the robot action when you had the Transformers and her on-screen at the same time :lol:. And I loved John Turturro's Agent Simmons, hilarious tongue-in-cheek stuff (and I really appreciated all those little wink-wink nods to fans of the old show).
there were a couple of snippits with Sam's parents playing off the whole "there was no alien invasion" thing with a joke about that "if there were the government would tell us" which kinda fell flat.
i saw those as I was heading out so I don't know if anything came after that.
besides those 2 things there was nothing. I stayed the whole credits and it was just sam's parents and starscream blasting off.
Okay, here's my thoughts...I know you were all waiting with baited breath! ;) Anyroad, like I said, I really enjoyed it. My Dad and I went to see it, and we had a good time. I've got to say, hearing Optimus' voice on the big screen just about gave me a case of the fanboy giggles. When he said 'the line' to Megatron, I literally stamped my feet in pure nerd rapture. Also, Hugo Weaving did an exceptionally good job as Megs, I was thoroughly and pleasantly surprised by just how well he captured him. I thought the kid who played Sam did a great job with the whole movie, and I think his part was written pretty well too.
Now, all that said, there are a LOT of things I wish they had done differently:
[spoiler] Like I said earlier, the TF designs are just plain ugly. Aside from the fact that I wasn't fond of them, I don't think they worked nearly as well on screen as they could have. They were WAY too visually complex, so in every scene where there is even partially rapid movement, you can barely tell what the heck is going on. Is Iron Hide standing on his head, or is that his foot? You know? That also led into the second problem I had with their look. You couldn't tell any of them apart. Optimus stuck out, but the rest all sort of blended together. Bumblebee was mostly yellow, so that helped, but I couldn't even tell who Megatron was unless he was shown next to something I could tell his size from. I was glad to see the 'mouth guard' on Prime, but I don't really get why they couldn't have just left him like that the entire movie, I mean, they did the voice syncing in the cartoon with just the movement of his guard, why not in the movie? Plus, and I imagine that they did this for budgetary reasons, they kept cutting away from the action every time it gets interesting. I mean, we didn't even SEE the final fight between Prime and Megs.
Now, the story:
By the end of the movie, we knew just about NOTHING about the TF's, although we knew PLENTY of Sam and what's her face. We get a little character development with Prime, but not really that much. When Jazz dies, it hardly even mattered because we didn't know ANYTHING about him. I understood that it wasn't going to focus on the TF's much, but for heaven sakes, it hardly focused on them at all! Most of them got, at best, one line of dialogue. [/spoiler]
I would have liked to see something (surprise, surprise) closer to G1, but with an ending like the first story arc of the Dreamweave TF comics. You could cut out 90% of the human characters, especially all the soldiers who did nothing but act tough for half the freakin' movie, use Sam as an introduction for the audience into the Autobots (like Jubilee in the Xmen toon) and take the story from their with the government scrambling to figure out what is going on.
anyone read the transformers prequel comic?
it tells u how bumblebee got his voicebox crushed by megatron and the allspark
and where bumblebee was on mars and stuff
anyone notice that when starscream blast off into space, he was a different jet?
he transform into another jet while shooting the other jets
then then blasts down on megatron with the other jets
did he really? I was wondering what happened to him in that exchange.
yeah he did
they didn't show him transform into one of those jets but if u look closley at the end of the movie, you could see that hes a different jet.
I loved this movie it was pure nerd bliss!
Starscream was an F-22 Raptor. He fights other F-22s. There are three squadrons of human piloted F-22s. He fights one squadron, then high tails it out of there with them in pursuit. One or both of the other squadrons attack Megatron. In the end, Starscream is STILL an F-22 Raptor.
Him firing on Megatron is something "conspiracy theorists" are trying to drum up in various TF forums as well. That is not in the style of a Hollywood blockbuster or even of Michael Bay. Everything has to be spelled out. Starscream firing on Megs is wishful thinking, but did not happen.
If you want to really hear the low-down about every nuance in the movie, you should check out a site like www.seibertron.com where the people discussing the movie have probably seen it more times than number of days it has been out.
ah i see
so i was wrong
but still that would've been cool if he fires down on megatron! ^_^
I saw it. Serious SQUEEEEE factor. Majorly happy. Was very confused where a soda machine and a mobile phone got live ammunition, but I went with it. Did all the new 'sparksters' (not my term) turn into decepticons or is that just a default setting or something? Overall, very enjoyable, even if I had to spend a few minutes explaining why Megatron died but not Optimus. ("Didn't the big swirly guy WANT the spark?" "Not inside HIS spark" "Theres two sparks?" "No...no, one All-Spark" etc. etc.)
Quote from: Sevenforce on July 22, 2007, 03:44:06 PM
Was very confused where a soda machine and a mobile phone got live ammunition, but I went with it. Did all the new 'sparksters' (not my term) turn into decepticons or is that just a default setting or something?
The soda machine was firing off cans of soda (which can hurt if they hit hard enough - see Stephen King's Maximum Overdrive for a more bloody example) from a multi-chamber gernade launcher on his arm (I was able to find a photo of the Mountain Dew Transformer from a friend of mine). I'm not sure where the live ammo from the cell phone came from but it was probably because of the high power level of the charge directly from the All-Spark to actually allow it to manifucture it's own ammo.
The video game inspired by the movie actually explains that these random transformations actually turn them into "mindless drones" which automatically attack humans for some reason until they are actually given a spark (i.e. soul) which would turn them good or evil.
- CrimsonQuill
yeah like the xbox 360 lol
Fans dreamed of it^^
Here's the real soundwave^^
(http://www.20minutes.fr/img/photos/20mn/2007-08/2007-08-07/diapo_transformer.jpg)
(http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/SOUNDWAVE/SOUNDWAVE-05.JPG)
(http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/SOUNDWAVE/SOUNDWAVE-07.JPG)
(http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/SOUNDWAVE/SOUNDWAVE-08.JPG)
(http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/SOUNDWAVE/SOUNDWAVE-19.JPG)
Ohh my gosh........I want one sooooooo bad!
Me too, that girl's pretty cute. Heh, just kidding. That is one sweet Soundwave figure. Lot better than the one I had as a kid (which was really just a tape player shaped like Soundwave with no moving limbs, and it also didn't work.
does she comes with soundwave?
lol
that soundwave is pretty sick :thumbup: