is anyone here lookin forward to this?
it looks kinda like star wars clone wars
and optimus is like misshaped
[spoiler](http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t208/rubberdude13/Transformers-Animated.jpg)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t208/rubberdude13/Transformers-Animated-2.jpg)
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I've learned not to think ill of Cartoon Network programs until I give them a shot.
Too many times I have based an opinion on preliminary art and not give the story a chance. Lots of people "pooh poohed" the Teen Titans show just from the designs alone. My kids loved that series. Optimus looks quite odd in that promo pic but I'll wait to watch the show with my kids before passing judgement.
-MJB
Unlike jeebs, I'm just gonna say WHAT...THE...EXPLETIVE?!? and be done with it.
yeah
rumors has it that
:spoiler:
[spoiler]bumblebee, bulkhead, prowl, rachet and ultra magnus is gonna be in it[/spoiler]
of course megatron is in it
Wizard has some more details about the new Transfomers Animated series.
CLICK ME DAMMIT! (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/005048743.cfm)
-MJB
Quote from: MJB on July 04, 2007, 12:43:45 AM
Wizard has some more details about the new Transfomers Animated series.
Okay, I'm slightly more interested in seeing where this is going.... but when I heard that the Teen Titans artist team did the character designs I had some reservations but that whole promotional poster had my brain melting out of my ears (plus someone better get it straight that Prime is from Generation 1 or later on because that doesn't look like Semi on the bottom). It's like a mesh of Loonatics Unleashed and Go-Bots cartoons with some of the new movie mixed in with a dash of the original Transformers for that old school feeling. :blink: The voice cast looks interesting however and the line-up on the Decepticons side also brings some strange team chemistry.
- CrimsonQuill
I don't know if I like the superhero elements being brought it, with superpowered humans being enemies as often as the Decepticons. I don't know, but Transformers are not the same as regular superheroes.
As for the style, it reminds me a lot of the Timniverse style--which just doesn't work for Transformers. I'm sorry, it doesn't.
I think this is one of those cases where I'm going to have to see it in context before I decide.
Samuari Jack, Batman:TAS, and Clone Wars... when I saw the static character designs, I didn't really like them, but then I saw the actual cartoon and fell in love with 'em. I hope that's the case here.
On the plus side Tom Kenny is voicing Starscream. According to the Wizard article he is imitating Chris Latta. If anyone can do Latta justice it may be Kenny.
On the negative side I've never heard of the two guys who are supposedly playing Optimus and Megatron. IMDB lists the actors as David Kaye (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/) and Corey Burton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123553/). IMDB isn't the most reliable site so things can change once more information is given by Cartoon Network.
-MJB
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on July 04, 2007, 01:06:32 PM
I don't know if I like the superhero elements being brought it, with superpowered humans being enemies as often as the Decepticons. I don't know, but Transformers are not the same as regular superheroes.
As for the style, it reminds me a lot of the Timniverse style--which just doesn't work for Transformers. I'm sorry, it doesn't.
Exactly...........I'm adopting a frightened wait-and-see policy with this one.
Quote from: MJB on July 05, 2007, 09:46:30 AM
On the negative side I've never heard of the two guys who are supposedly playing Optimus and Megatron. IMDB lists the actors as David Kaye (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/) and Corey Burton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123553/). IMDB isn't the most reliable site so things can change once more information is given by Cartoon Network.
David Kaye has played Megatron more than any other actor, starting with his excellent rendition in Beast Wars.
yesss
Quote from: MJB on July 05, 2007, 09:46:30 AM
On the negative side I've never heard of the two guys who are supposedly playing Optimus and Megatron. IMDB lists the actors as David Kaye (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/) and Corey Burton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123553/).
-MJB
You never heard
of Corey Burton, but you've definetly heard him. He played Spike in the Transformer toons from the 80s.
I'm pretty good with matching voices but I'm terrible with names.
So Kaye did Megs on the Beast Wars toon? Not my favorite rendition of him but it worked. I liked Beast Wars and have steered clear of all the new "anime" inspired versions of the show.
-MJB
I'm interested to see how this works out. At the very least, I'm glad that there's an alternative to the current Transformers cartoons they're showing on TV... I only occasionally watch those things for the unintentional comedy they can sometimes provide.
Quote from: MJB on July 05, 2007, 09:46:30 AM
On the plus side Tom Kenny is voicing Starscream. According to the Wizard article he is imitating Chris Latta. If anyone can do Latta justice it may be Kenny.
-MJB
I agree with that. Latta's high pitched Starscream is very hard to do justice and few have tried in the biz. Kenny may just pull it off.
QuoteYou never heard of Corey Burton, but you've definetly heard him. He played Spike in the Transformer toons from the 80s.
He also played Brainiac in Superman TAS and JLU, and got a chance or two to voice Toyman in Justice League when the original didn't do it, and was Palpatine in Clone Wars.
QuoteDavid Kaye has played Megatron more than any other actor, starting with his excellent rendition in Beast Wars.
Indeed the energy and wit he brought to Beast Wars Megatron was delightfull (and he did try in Beast Machines, but the material wasn't on his side, or any of the VAs for that matter except Richard Newman (Rhinox) and Brian Drummond (Jetstorm). But he and Gary Chalk (Optimus Primal) couldn't have phoned it in MORE in Armada, Energon and Cybertron. The voices were familiar but it just wasn't the same. I don't think the weaker characters and digital voice effect was entirely responsible, I just don't think they could get into the roles.
On the topic of the new series; I'm wary. I'd give it a try no doubt, but I don't know if this is gonna be good or not. The animation style is a little too exxaggerated for me, I usually don't like the stylistic angular stuff, but I actually think the designs are pretty neat. Black Arachnia, eh? Nice. She was definately one of the stronger written characters in Beast Wars and certainly Venus Terzo's strongest voice role I've heard. Sounds like this version's pretty similar too. I'm glad there's a female character in the batch, the TF series really don't use the female characters that well. Even when they have one or two good ones, they're mostly overshadowed by the dozens of male characters. I guess they find female transformers hard to design because they feel its nesisary to make them look unmistakably female, and not bulky or blocky like most of the males.
There is no reason not to include Arcee at some point if they are putting Arachnia in.
Plus am I the only one who would enjoy a new version of Waspinator from Beast Wars? I loved that character.
-MJB
Who didn't? Waspinator was a wonderfull character, pitable, and usually good for a laugh or three, back when Scott Mcneil wasn't a name and voice I dreaded hearing in my cartoons. However, I hate to think how badly a poorly written TF show could get Waspinator wrong. I actually think he was one of the *BETTER* written characters in Beast Machines, maybe one of the two or three that actually retained thier original personality.
"Oh sure, don't mind Waspinator....Waspinator just lay here and SUFFER, dragging HIMSELF to C.R. tank!"
As for Arcee, I agree. I think there should be a female character on both sides to even things out. Female characters shouldn't be that much harder to write than the male characters without making them out to be airheads, ditzs, or damels in distress. The good thing about them being Transformers is even if they arn't bulky and strong like the males usually are, they can still be bristling with firepower.
TRANSFORMERS ANIMATED VOICE CAST ANNOUNCED
The guys at Toonzone (www.news.toonzone.net (http://www.news.toonzone.net)) managed to get to this year’s Transformers Botcon last weekend and picked up this important bit of news.
Attending a panel by former Autobot v.o. actor David Kaye, the following voice cast for the upcoming animated series was released. Here’s the list:
Bumblebee - Bumper Robinson
Bulkhead - Bill Fagerbakke
Prowl - Jeff Bennett
Ultra Magnus - also Jeff Bennett
Arcee - Susan Blu (also the voice director)
Blackarachnia - Cree Summer
Jazz - Phil Lamarr
Shockwave - Corey Burton
A Constructicon - Tom Kenny
A garbage truck (Junkion?) - "Weird Al" Yankovic
Kaye himself is voicing Optimus. Corey Burton will do Megatron while Tom Kenny will do Starscream.
The new animated series is expected to come to Cartoon Network over the next year.
- CrimsonQuill
Nice to see at least 1 TF:The Movie vet on the list. Susan has always done a good job as Arcee.
Johnny Bravo himself as Ultra Magnus? Phil Lemarr as Jazz? Sweet!
The voice cast is shaping up nicely.
-MJB
good voice cast set up
Very. Lots of names I recognize from other voice work. If nothing else, the sound will be VERY solid. I feel very confident with LaMar doing Jazz (a personal favorite character from G1) and Jeff Bennett is just pure voice talent.
I'm hoping Bill Fagerbakke gets to do a character akin to the one he voiced in "Roughnecks" rather than his regular stint on "Spongebob".
Weird Al doing a character... I remember "Dare to be Stupid" in the movie. I guess this is also a nod to that.
Additional info from Con appearance:
Sources from the David Kaye panel have confirmed that he said that all voice recording sessions were done in the traditional "Radio Play" method with everyone reading live in the same room. Which is a comfort since the best of Warner Brothers' and 20th Century Fox's cartoons have been done this way as well. At the time of the panel there have already been 2 seasons worth of scripts already recorded and hints were given that makes about 29 episodes total to be animated not including the pilot movie.
David also confirmed that another actor from the '80s Transformers Movie will be back.. John "American Express" Moschitta will also make an appearance as Blurr in a few episodes.
A fan also made a comment that he heard a rumor that David Kaye once did a version of Sesame Street's "Rubber Ducky" song as Megatron during a sound check for Beast Wars. Since Kaye was in a good mood he decided to give the attending audience a sample of what he did: http://rubberduckmegatron.ytmnd.com/ (http://rubberduckmegatron.ytmnd.com/) (the link is to a makeshift site someone threw together to host it).
Just before he left.. Kaye also dropped a hint that he might have also done a few additional characters which included a certain T-Rex and a new character called Lugnut.
- CrimsonQuill
YES! I was hoping Susan Blu would play Arcee again. Very cool.
Hard to go wrong with Phil Lemarr. Good choice for Jazz I think.
Jeff Bennet did great work on Gargoyles and he was great as "D.A.V.E." in The Batman (actually that was my favourite episode), so I'm happy there.
Cree Summer as Blackarachnia....it could work. It's not a horrible choice.
Just listened to that Megatron Rubber Duckie bit-cute, but sound qualitie's fairly poor. I always liked that Megatron had a rubber duckie. I once read a somewhat funny fanfic about Waspinator trying to steal it.
i'm looking forward to this
this animated transformers might be alright :)
Here is a cam clip of "Transformers: Animated" from when it was unveiled at San Diego Comic Con.
http://enewsi.com/c/gvid.php?i=11455
Seeing it in movement has not changed my mind. The style is still dren. Now this confirms it looks like dren when in motion. Guess I'll just patiently await for the next series to come out.
thanks for the video, now my mind is set. i really want to see it!
it looks quite a bit like Teen Titans, and i hope it will keep the comedy.
in my mind, it looks a little better than the preview for the new spidey series.
You can really see the Teen Titans influence in this preview. After watching TT with my kids (the audience it was intended for) I grew to appreciate the show.
My initial reaction to the style/animation is not a positive one but I am old enough to realize that I am not the target audience.
I am sure that when I show this trailer to my 8 year old, he will think it is "awesome".
-MJB
It's okay. That style worked well for TT because they are human. The style make the robots a little too human. I'm just noticing the way they move and stuff. Of course, you have to have at least 1 human contact :rolleyes: I'm going to watch it, but nothing beat the TF from the 80's :thumbup:
The Ninja motorcycle is irritating, as is Prime's mouth. And what the hell is up with the axe? I find that to push the "Fire Truck" thing too far...no gun for Prime? Coooooommmme onnnnnn....
If the story is any good like Teen Titans was, I'll watch it. if not, then that combined with all the things I already dislike about it will keep me FAR away from this series.
Boy that clip was... toyetic.
It's going to need some amazing writing. Seeing them in context doesn't really grab me. Still, good scripts coupled with a great cast... if they have that I may become a fan.
Here is another cam clip from the con.
http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=11290
This one is a longer clip from the actual show. This further demonstrates how this style does not work for the Transformers. It also shows that the previous clip I linked to looks much better as if it contained a lot of opening sequence animation...Ya know, the stuff they make really nice but then don't actually do in the show. :(
Heh, just as I was posting this, my wife was looking over my shoulder and commented how it looks "old & choppy", as in not as fluid as she might expect from today's animators.
Ehh...Well, I'm now even less enthused about this.
wow i gotta say i am excited for this!
well the framerates definitely off in this clip. i assume its because of one of two things.
first, this is a sample clip thats put on repeat at the table, but not enough of the show has been animated, so they slow down the framerate a bit to make the clip seem longer.
OR not enough animation has been produced yet, ie. the producers havent shipped the goods off to the north koreans yet to do the tweens.
i highly doubt the final product will be this low quality.
edit:
or my other thought is that the person who captured this clip was using a digital camera, they usually have 15 or 30 fps settings. neither of which are industry standards for animated video (29.97 fps), hence the framerate jitters
another Transformers fan's view on the new series designs...
http://www.lilformers.com/comic0055.php
lol good one glitch!
Well, they finally aired it, and I've seen most of it (missed the first 20 minutes of the 1.5 hour premier)
First impression... it ain't good
More...
[spoiler]Tha animation is very shoddy. Most of the time it looks like it's running at 15 fps or lower. It's made even more evident by the angular and overly stylyzed characters.
The setting is a near future Detroit where robots are the largest export and one company is the leader due to massively new technolgies. It's shown at the end that these technologies are actually from a dismantled and broken Megatron, but we all know THAT state won't last long.
They have their token "cute kid" in this one - this time an indian girl with inexplicably red pigtails and a "magic key". That's the best description I can come up for it - it's a keycard that gets infused technology and it can fix transformers by just plugging it in, i.e: it's maaaaaaaagic. Oh yeah, and her dad's got Megatron's head wired into his robots factory.
The characters themselves aren't that interesting. You've got Ratchet who is apparenlty the old curmudgeon bot with magnetic hands (wha???), Prowl the motorcycle who can project holograms, the one nod to his origin, a young and unsure leader in Optimus Prime, Bumblebee the kid, and the armoreed vehicle who's name escapes me at the moment who seems to be the big slightly dumb one. The supporting human cast is a little worse. You've got the loudmouth police chief, the scientist dad, both of whom come off as flat and mostly forgettable.
Oddly enough, Starscream is rather faithful to his origin - except for the chin that you could land a helicarrier on, he acts, looks, and even sounds very much like the original down to his underhanded backstabbing of his illustrious leader. Still, as with all the characters, he comes off flat due to some really poor writing. Plot holes and leaps of logic the size of the grand canyon pepper the script with dialogue wooden enough to whittle on.
Overall, it's going to take a miracle for this thing to improve. I can only hope it gets dumped very soon or gets a drastic overhaul a la Marvel Action Universe.
One can hope.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Glitch Girl on January 04, 2008, 07:18:00 AMTha animation is very shoddy. Most of the time it looks like it's running at 15 fps or lower. It's made even more evident by the angular and overly stylyzed characters.
It actually makes me wonder if they should have gone the full Flash animation route with this one (although they might have, and just did a crap job of it, I've no idea what went into the production of the show). The blocky and stylized designs lend themselves well to that method, it would have probably animated better and been a lot cheaper to make. As it was, the animation in the premiere episode didn't look very appealing, although I wonder if it wasn't so much the animation that was off as it was the poor direction.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on January 04, 2008, 07:18:00 AMYou've got the loudmouth police chief, the scientist dad, both of whom come off as flat and mostly forgettable.
The police chief looked like a buffed up version of Inspector Gadget's boss (you know, the dude with the pipe who kept getting blown up by the discarded self-destructing messages). I was half-expecting Penny and that damn dog to show up in the background somewhere.
The one thing I did appreciate in the show is that we finally get a prominent Indian character in a kids' show who doesn't speak in stereotypical "Apu"-ese in the lead kid. Although having her be a nosy, hyperactive tween stereotype isn't any less annoying, either.
Well.....I can't say I'm surprised. I actually sort of wanted to see this (despite my misgivings about the previews) until I started seeing the commercials......they sort of pointed at a lot of these issues, and I lost any drive to see it.
I saw it this week. I pretty much agree with everything GG said. The only thing I liked about it really is the voice acting, which I thought was solid depending on the character. I especially liked Starscream's true-to-the original voice.
Quote from: zuludelta on January 04, 2008, 09:06:23 AM
The one thing I did appreciate in the show is that we finally get a prominent Indian character in a kids' show who doesn't speak in stereotypical "Apu"-ese in the lead kid. Although having her be a nosy, hyperactive tween stereotype isn't any less annoying, either.
I agree, it is nice to divert from the mostly white string of "kid characters" in Transformers without being particularly stereotypical, but the kid was indeed annoying for the reason you listed. I've never really liked the tendancy to have human kid "P.O.V" characters in Transformers, but something tells me if I continue watching this she's going to become my least favourite ever.
Quote from: Silver Shocker on January 04, 2008, 10:44:50 AMI agree, it is nice to divert from the mostly white string of "kid characters" in Transformers without being particularly stereotypical, but the kid was indeed annoying for the reason you listed. I've never really liked the tendancy to have human kid "P.O.V" characters in Transformers, but something tells me if I continue watching this she's going to become my least favourite ever.
That is one thing that I enjoy about modern entertainment, having kids of more diverse backgrounds is a non-issue.
Quote from: detourne_me on July 30, 2007, 08:59:54 PM
well the framerates definitely off in this clip. i assume its because of one of two things.
first, this is a sample clip thats put on repeat at the table, but not enough of the show has been animated, so they slow down the framerate a bit to make the clip seem longer.
OR not enough animation has been produced yet, ie. the producers havent shipped the goods off to the north koreans yet to do the tweens.
i highly doubt the final product will be this low quality.
edit:
or my other thought is that the person who captured this clip was using a digital camera, they usually have 15 or 30 fps settings. neither of which are industry standards for animated video (29.97 fps), hence the framerate jitters
Heh, after seeing about 10 minutes of this dren, I can conclude that it was none of those things. It was as we thought: Crappy animation.
I had no doubt it would be bad when I first saw the odd style that simply does not fit in with the angled precision that makes up giant transforming robots.
Although there tended to be some odd anime-isms in the last batch of Transformer cartoons, at least japanese studios tend to know how to render their mecha. Perhaps if they would have gotten Mainframe to do the new series, we would have had something special. Oh well. Guess I'll have to wait for the next series to happen.
I've seen only the podcast (I think it was)...I found it to be awful...Choppy, bad animation...Goofy, annoying characters...Not much in it made me want to watch the series.
I liked the original Transformer's series when I was a kid...I absolutely loved the Beast Wars series (I'm an animal lover...And I thought robots turning into bad-arse animals was the neatest)...But I disliked the sequel, Beast Machines.
Picky Transformers fan,
Dana
Well since they're specifically targeting a younger audience than the original, I'd say of all the TF cartoons that have come out since the original went off the air, this one is the best. No super power up ala DBZ crap, no generic anime kids over stating the obvious, and each character actually has something resembling a personality. It's a bastardization of the original for sure, but for the targeted 6ish age group, I'd say it's one of the better cartoons out there for that age group.
Good to see you're still around Cmdr! Yeah, the original series was beyond awesome.
Quote from: Verfall on January 05, 2008, 06:06:28 PM
Well since they're specifically targeting a younger audience than the original, I'd say of all the TF cartoons that have come out since the original went off the air, this one is the best. No super power up ala DBZ crap, no generic anime kids over stating the obvious, and each character actually has something resembling a personality. It's a bastardization of the original for sure, but for the targeted 6ish age group, I'd say it's one of the better cartoons out there for that age group.
Well, even if you grant that this is the best of them since the original (although many people love Beastwars), that's not really saying much.
Quote from: Verfall on January 05, 2008, 06:06:28 PM
Well since they're specifically targeting a younger audience than the original, I'd say of all the TF cartoons that have come out since the original went off the air, this one is the best. No super power up ala DBZ crap, no generic anime kids over stating the obvious, and each character actually has something resembling a personality. It's a bastardization of the original for sure, but for the targeted 6ish age group, I'd say it's one of the better cartoons out there for that age group.
All my qualms with the new show are pretty much based on the technical aspects of the animation, which makes it look cheap, shoddy, and poorly done. I agree with you that the story and the characterizations, at least so far, is inoffensive and isn't any worse than many of the other stuff out there that's targeted towards kids. I did notice that the show didn't really catch on with any of my 5-8 year old cousins who are huge fans of the recent Transformers shows (but that's probably because they don't have the toys based on the new cartoon, at least not yet... if the toys become a hit with the kids, I'm sure the cartoon will gain that much more of a following with the younger set).
Quote from: BentonGrey on January 05, 2008, 06:06:44 PM
Good to see you're still around Cmdr! Yeah, the original series was beyond awesome.
Quote from: Verfall on January 05, 2008, 06:06:28 PM
Well since they're specifically targeting a younger audience than the original, I'd say of all the TF cartoons that have come out since the original went off the air, this one is the best. No super power up ala DBZ crap, no generic anime kids over stating the obvious, and each character actually has something resembling a personality. It's a bastardization of the original for sure, but for the targeted 6ish age group, I'd say it's one of the better cartoons out there for that age group.
Well, even if you grant that this is the best of them since the original (although many people love Beastwars), that's not really saying much.
I like to think of Beast Wars as a fantastic show outside of the main shows. Of all the shows, Beast Wars was far and away the best written and animated of the lot, but it wasn't a true Transformers show. If they could pull off the Beast Wars style of writing and characterization with a vehicle based show it'd be the best damn cartoon on TV.
Quote from: Verfall on January 05, 2008, 06:56:22 PM
I like to think of Beast Wars as a fantastic show outside of the main shows. Of all the shows, Beast Wars was far and away the best written and animated of the lot, but it wasn't a true Transformers show. If they could pull off the Beast Wars style of writing and characterization with a vehicle based show it'd be the best damn cartoon on TV.
To be fair VF, I never really watched Beast Wars, so I can't really comment on it. I saw a little of it, and it didn't catch my interest because it wasn't really Transformers (to me). The animation was really cool though.
i just watched this and i agree with everything Verfall has said. other than the first season or two of beast wars, this is the best show since the original. I've tried to get into armada, energon and cybertron, but way too many anime-isms. this pilot reminded me of the early The Batman episodes, some bad design choices at first glance, but hopefully it will pick up its pace later on, (although it took The Batman 4 seasons to get really good) I liked this pilot a lot better than the LSH shows i've seen so far...
Give Legion another chance DM, it's gotten MUCH better, although it's still not Timm-verse quality.
scifiupdates.com had this to say.
QuoteAnd speaking of Transformers, did anyone else watch the cartoon premiere on Saturday? As for us here, we're still trying to erase the memory from our poor abused brains!! But if you really want to know what it was like, imagine the Teen Titans all dressed up like cars one year for Halloween...
LOL! Ohh, that's beautiful!
Sorry if this is considered "necroposting" but seeing as the show is still going on (at least here in Canada) I thought it justified and would rather bring up the old thread than make a new one.
This week's episode featured [spoiler]Waspinator, as a Bumberbee recast named Wasp, as well as Shockwave, as a Decepticon spy operating on Earth. I wasn't sure if Wasp was going to be that much like Waspinator, as the name and green-yellow color scheme were the only things similar. However, near the end of this flashback episode, we see the present day Wasp, whose delivers this dialogue:
"Bumblebot not hide from Wasp. Wasp swears he find Bumblebot, and make Bumblebot PAY for ruining Wasp's life! [expose him as a decepticon spy]" Wasp is voiced by Tom Kenny, and by this point in the episode does a voice clearly inspired by Waspinator's voice from Beast Wars. He seems to be a much more serious version of Waspinator though, not at all the comic relief Waspinator was, at least not yet. Shockwave has size-altering abilites ("to help him spy on the autobots") and uses an alias "Longarm". As Shockwave he looks very much like the G1 character (with the camera-head). [/spoiler]
Either of these two things would have had me excited (though the latter was foreshadowed in an earlier episode) but the two of have me very interested. This show still has a good deal of faults but the second season is a good deal better IMO.
Quote from: Silver Shocker on June 07, 2008, 11:22:03 AMThis show still has a good deal of faults but the second season is a good deal better IMO.
I've pretty much accepted the character designs as reasonable all things considered (and the new toys based on the designs are pretty neat... the level of articulation and pose-ability in the Voyager (http://tformers.com/gv.php?mode=view&album=264&pic=0003.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0) and Deluxe (http://tformers.com/gv.php?mode=view&album=262&pic=aniprowl_3.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0) class of figures is a significant step above what I was expecting... almost Marvel Legends-like), and the writing is surprisingly entertaining, but the quality of the actual animation is still very poor, perhaps the worst I've seen since the DiC GI Joe series from the 1990s.
True, the framerate is embarrassingly bad. It's kinda sad, with all the anime on tv these days, there arn't a lot of american action/non-comedy cartoons on tv and this is one of them, one of the most poorly animated cartoons I've seen in recent memories.
Quote from: Silver Shocker on June 12, 2008, 10:07:04 PM
True, the framerate is embarrassingly bad. It's kinda sad, with all the anime on tv these days, there arn't a lot of american action/non-comedy cartoons on tv and this is one of them, one of the most poorly animated cartoons I've seen in recent memories.
It sort of underscores how poorly appreciated the traditional/2D animation field has become in North America. A couple of 2D animators that I know recently moved to the Philippines because they found it easier to hook-up with a studio with a regular paying 2D animation gig there than in Canada. And in a weird twist of irony, they ended up working on Canadian/American cartoons (Fantastic Four, My Dad the Rock Star, Captain Flamingo) whose animation was outsourced to Asian studios because of the lack of competitively-priced North American animation studios.