:spoiler: GL stuff below
Okay, so the Sinestros Corps has yellow which is fear, the Zamarons use pink which is love, the Guardians spurned emotions and chose willpower which is (for some reason) green.
NOW, in the latest issue of GL we see that Zamarons have fashioned the Star Sappphire into a ring and battery then placed the lantern in a room with both a yellow and green lantern AND four spaces left over.
I guess that leaves Blue, Red, Orange and Violet (maybe brown) lanterns?
Red would probably be anger/hate and blue would be sadness/depression. What would purple and orange be? Happiness?
I think orange for happiness is good. Purple would be for desire? Perhaps on the attirbutes-not-emotions theme blue would be something like intellect?
Anybody else getting a bad Power Ranger vibe from all these different colored lanterns?
*sings offkey* Go, go, gree, no, re, no.... Yell, gah! Not that one ether... Oh the hell with it. Lanterns! *starts humming*
Oh great... what's next? Captain mood ring?
The DC Comics GL messageboards usually have a discussion like this..
In Eartern cultures, the color red can represent happiness. In some cultures it stands for death. In Western cultures it signifies rage. So which one do we go with? And would aliens from all corners of the galaxy even see it that way?
Wouldn't Kryptonians, for instance, see red as the color of life since its the color of their sun? And Martians wouldn't think of red as a bad color, either.
Wouldn't green symbolize envy more than willpower?
It's a confusing world, color. :D
Quote from: lugaru on June 07, 2007, 03:56:10 PM
Oh great... what's next? Captain mood ring?
No, his name is Doctor Spectrum. ;)
Funny thing is, my friend and I had a Blue and a Red Lantern in DC Heroes RPG more than 10 years ago. Of course,
that Red Lantern was constructed by the Russians...
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on June 07, 2007, 11:21:45 AM
:spoiler: GL stuff below
Okay, so the Sinestros Corps has yellow which is fear, the Zamarons use pink which is love, the Guardians spurned emotions and chose willpower which is (for some reason) green.
NOW, in the latest issue of GL we see that Zamarons have fashioned the Star Sappphire into a ring and battery then placed the lantern in a room with both a yellow and green lantern AND four spaces left over.
I guess that leaves Blue, Red, Orange and Violet (maybe brown) lanterns?
Red would probably be anger/hate and blue would be sadness/depression. What would purple and orange be? Happiness?
One thing that interested me about the scene was the fact that the Zamarons had the green lantern in the center. I'm guessing that has some meaning. If you think about it, willpower could be used to overcome all the other emotions.
Anyway, I was thinking about this one day when I was supposed to be working. :P The first thing that occurred to me was that it's really easy to think of more than 6 emotions (I'm not counting willpower as an emotion). So they could only represent the big 6. Others would just be different versions of one of those. For example, envy/jealousy could just be another version of hate. So if it were up to me I'd go with:
The first three are given of course
Green = Willpower
Yellow = Fear
Violet = Love
Red = Hate
Orange = Joy
Blue = Sorrow
Indigo = Courage
Like Revenant said this sort of thing would be really subjective but still it killed time until 5:00.
Yellow is fear, tempered by Green for Willpower, so my thought is blue is Inspiration. The opposite of being afraid of something is being inspired by it.
Maybe.
I don't know that courage is an emotion exactly. It's a character quality and a virtue, certainly. I guess it's a possibility though.
Anger, sadness and happiness are pretty obvious though.
Looking at the sites below, there are a lot of possibilities and I noticed that courage is among them but I didn't see any that were especially convincing.
There is one list at the end of the first page that has the other emotions and has surprise listed. - I suppose but, again, I'm not convinced ... yet.
http://changingminds.org/explanations/emotions/basic%20emotions.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emotions
Willpower isn't an emotion either, so it isn't limited necessarily to just emotions.
right. It's not emotions that the lanterns represent, but a driving force behind their actions.
Really, though, isn't courage just when some other driving force overcomes fear? Otherwise fear's opposite would be courage. But think about it. A couragous person can be so because his will overcomes his fear, or his anger, or love for someone else in danger, or even his own sense of morality.
I'm betting that courage isn't one of them.
Wasn't the whole yellow = fear thing revealed in the Green Lantern: Rebirth story? If that is true, isn't that a bad retcon? I mean Sinestro never looked afraid to me, heck he constantly challenged the entirity of the green lantern corp. If that is true than it seems like a cheap excuse to make Hal's actions as Parallax "okay". Probably make more sense if yellow = wraith, since both sinestro and Hal as parallax seemed to be on a personal vendetta.
Sinestro CAUSES fear, hence the yellow ring. All of the Sinestro corps, rather than FEELING fear CAUSE it.
In other words, those who can use the corresponding color attribute for their own purposes are the ones who can use that ring. The GLs use their willpower, Sinestro's bunch already wield fear as a weapon, even before the rings, the Star Sapphires fuel their evil deeds with the memory of love scorned and so forth.
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on June 08, 2007, 09:35:35 AM
Maybe.
I don't know that courage is an emotion exactly. It's a character quality and a virtue, certainly. I guess it's a possibility though.
Anger, sadness and happiness are pretty obvious though.
To be honest, even I'm not convinced on courage. I just got stuck when I got to indigo. :oops:
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on June 08, 2007, 11:01:02 AM
Willpower isn't an emotion either, so it isn't limited necessarily to just emotions.
Actually I think the remaining colors are limited to emotions. According to the Zamarons, the Guardians rejected all emotion so it makes since they would focus on willpower as a trait that can be used to overcome them but isn't actually an emotion itself.
Actually, there are only two emotions: fear and love. In this case, love is more like universal acceptance than romance and passion (which would be the Star Sapphires).
I would think this color would be white, as it does contain all the colors. The opposite would be a Black Lantern, which would be fear, but not the same fear as the Sinestro peeps use, that of causing fear, closer to despair and unwillingness to face reality.
All of the other emotions stem from these. If one were using color codes from more spiritual pursuits, they would break down like this: Red wouldn't be anger or hate, per se, but passion in general (hatred is passionate dislike, yes?). Passion would also include romantic passion too. Blue is the energy of pacification, self protection, sweetness and tenderness, and of loyalty. Green is healing, Yellow is wisdom, Orange is the willpower color.
But, we know they aren't necessarily going by this, as green and yellow are clearly wrong.
Proto, you put a lot of thought into this, and your theroy makes sense. But, since the colors used thus far don't quite work with, I doubt there'll be any White Lanterns. But I do agree with you.
The next color, I bet, will be Blue... for Intellegence. And what previously- established character will be retconed into the "Blue Lantern," you ask? None other than Blue Beetle. Think about it- all three possessors of the Beetle Scarab had great intellegence (Dan Garrett a paleintoligist, Ted Kord a genious comuter whiz, and the new kid is smart, as far as I could tell.) The scarab in the Newb's back does what the kid thinks about. The scarab doesn't like Green Lanterns, which is pretty common, I guess. And, I think, recently, an entire town in New Mexico was "infected" by Beetle Scarabs, meaning there's more than one of them.
Beyond that... Red for Fiery, Burning Rage? Maybe they'll bring back Effigy and his Corps for this?
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Quote from: Protomorph on June 08, 2007, 03:38:30 PM
Actually, there are only two emotions: fear and love.
Ah, I take it you've seen Donnie Darko (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/) as well?
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I hope some emo kid gets a blue power ring.
Quote from: NeoDarke on June 11, 2007, 11:52:08 PM
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Quote from: Protomorph on June 08, 2007, 03:38:30 PM
Actually, there are only two emotions: fear and love.
Ah, I take it you've seen Donnie Darko (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/) as well?
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No. This is a much older knowledge.
Quote from: Zapow on June 12, 2007, 04:30:42 AM
I hope some emo kid gets a blue power ring.
bwahaha :D
It's funny: when I was like ten years old I had this idea for a rainbow selection of Lanters after I read one of Sinestro's appearences in GL. Each one would be vulnerable to the color of one of the others.
Okay, we have tasted the rainbow! The new ish of GL spilled the beans
[spoiler]Red = Rage - yet to be founded
Orange = Greed - yet to be founded
Yellow = Fear - active; founded by Sinestro
Green = Willpower - active; founded by the Guardians
Blue = Hope - founded by Ganthet and Sayd
Indigo = Compassion - yet to be founded; carry staves
Violet = Love - active; founded by Zamarons
Black = Death - founded by person or persons unknown apparently using the body of the Anti-monitor.[/spoiler]
the rings the black lanterns used has black hand's symbol
I'm assuming the blues will be on the greens side, maybe the indigos too, if they come into the picture, but it still looks like it's going to be tough going for the lanterns for a while. I've got to read that last issue.
On that spoiler: Woot! Blue Lanterns!
Yeah...that's a lot of lanterns. I thought it was pretty cool how one of the blue-ish colored lanterns had a staff instead of a ring.
*adds more skins on to-do list*
So wait... everyone's forming their own Corps and trying to recruit all the other members of the DC universe?
...this is starting to get a little silly...
...anyone got pics? ^_^
The first comic i ever remember buying was a crisis on infinite earths tie-in Green Lantern where Harbinger gets John Stewart, and Guys a little ticked about it. and on the back cover had an add for reese's pieces. not quite skittles, but nevertheless the colours are reminding me of what's been happening to the GL story.... nah, i'm joking. blue lanterns sound cool. i wonder if they'll intereact with the wildstorm universe at all. i think it was in the "terra obscura" trade, that the Planetary team was investigating a parallel earth JLA that had been manipulated, a blue lantern was dissected and his power source was being used for something.
I'm really interested in the black corps, since all of them are coming from the grave
I'm guessing black hand will lead, but who else?
maybe hal's dad (lot of emphasis lately in the book)
or maybe abin sur will rise from the grave
or maybe dc will use this ressurect all of dead heroes
Speaking of the black corps. Is anyone else a little disappointed that we didn't get to see any of the green lantern corpse in this whole arc?
Quote from: Zippo on December 15, 2007, 01:04:51 PM
Speaking of the black corps. Is anyone else a little disappointed that we didn't get to see any of the green lantern corpse in this whole arc?
Not a little, a lot. It's been my 2nd favorite choice in expanding the GL mythos so far. The Sinestro Corps being the 1st.
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...anyone got pics? ^_^
Unless I miss my guess, since college is on break right now we're about to see some new skins from one of my favorite skinners ...
Quote from: murs47
Yeah...that's a lot of lanterns. I thought it was pretty cool how one of the blue-ish colored lanterns had a staff instead of a ring.
*adds more skins on to-do list*
These pics are a bit big so I'll just post links to them.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4701/gl1rh0.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4701/gl1rh0.jpg)
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/878/gl3oj3.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/878/gl3oj3.jpg)
http://38.114.207.21/852ee9765d959c88ddf108109f77897f6g.jpg (http://38.114.207.21/852ee9765d959c88ddf108109f77897f6g.jpg)
HERE'S PROMO ART FOR THE GREEN LANTERN 2009 SUMMER EVENT
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8562/gl4pt1.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8562/gl4pt1.jpg)
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9314/gl5sp0.jpg (http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9314/gl5sp0.jpg)
Aw, thanks Murs, I really appreciate you takin' the time to do that! ^_^
That 2 page spread is RIDICULOUS. I envy not the artist who was chosen to do that. (By which I mean the penciller the inker and the colorist. All three of them did one heckuva job. o_O)
-CM
No problem. Yeah, that spread is epic to say the least. GL# 25 had a lot of great 1 and 2 page spreads, I'd go run out and get it just for the art.
I am kicking myself for not getting to my comic shop this week!
*Speculation Time!*
Hmmm... So it'll be Green, Blue, and Violet vs. Yellow, Orange, Indigo, and Red? Cool.
Why does the Blue symbol look like a fancy beetle scrarab to me?
Is Starfire one of the Violet Lanterns in the 3rd page? (Left- most woman in the circle...)
I bet Hal's dad, Kyle's Alex DeWitt, Guy's Ice (of Fire and Ice), and... someone whom was close to John will be part of Black Hand's Corp?
Is it silly that I'm happy to see Kyle's crab mask back? ^_^
Ice is alive. But I think you're dead on about the others.
i can't believe they brought Ice back. i guess she is a pretty good character.
and for john stewart... ummn how about Katma Tui? dead wife.
QuoteSo it'll be Green, Blue, and Violet vs. Yellow, Orange, Indigo, and Red? Cool.
I rather got the impression that Indigo would be with Green and Blue. Violet's always been against Green as the Star Saphire, but we will see.
I bet the whole thing will end up being all seven against black in the end.
I just need to mention that Geoff has pulled this whole "multiple lantern corps" concept off extremely well. However, it seems like an idea just begging for a lesser writer to mangle down the road.
This is totally off- topic, but when did they bring Ice back? I can't believe I missed that one.
I don't know if you guys read GLC# 19 but...
[spoiler]Mongul's back, and he's got a yellow power ring now :o
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6659/monag7.jpg)[/spoiler]
2009? They sure are starting early on the promos. LOL
-MJB
As I understood it, R-O-Y-G-B-I-V, with Green being the middle showed no influence over its user with every movement either way increasing the effect the color has on its user. So red and violet dominate their hosts. Orange and indigo would be less-so and yellow and blue being the least next to green. Also green is the balance point with rage,avarice and fear on one side with hope, compassion and love on the other.
Ice came back quite recently, in the pages of Birds of Prey. I think this may be her first appearance since being alive again, outside of that story arc.
Quote from: MJB on December 17, 2007, 12:18:29 PM
2009? They sure are starting early on the promos. LOL
-MJB
...that was my thought.. we're not even done with 2007 yet. :roll:
-CM
well we were getting hints about sinestro corps right after rebirth and that was in 2005
All these corps popping up could be very good or it could go very bad :wacko:
I liked it when there was just one lantern left (although i do like hal,guy and stewart)
At this rate everyone in the dcu will get a power ring of somesort ;)
What trades do I have to pick-up to get up to date with the current state of GL? I've been interested ever since Geoff Johns started weaving Alan Moore's GL work into his current plots.
Quote from: Jakew on December 19, 2007, 04:50:45 PM
What trades do I have to pick-up to get up to date with the current state of GL? I've been interested ever since Geoff Johns started weaving Alan Moore's GL work into his current plots.
I'd start with Rebirth, then follow that up with GLC:Recharge if you want to know about the lesser known GL's. You could also pick up the Ion maxi-series if you want to see what happens with Kyle pre-Sinestro Corps War.
Green Lantern: Wanted and Revenge of the Green Lanterns are build up to the Sinestro Corps.
I personally found GLC to be far more entertaining then the regular GL title pre-Sinestro Corps.
The Sinestro Corps trades are out next month I believe.
Green Lantern: Rebirth is a must. I still go back and read it all the time. :)
Quote from: murs47 on December 19, 2007, 05:07:13 PM
Green Lantern: Rebirth is a must. I still go back and read it all the time. :)
Naturally, we see Guy get his ring back.
Hey is the source of the black ring power the Anti-Monitor? Near the end it looks like he was captured and used as a source for the rings.
It looks that way, certainly.
Quote from: murs47 on December 19, 2007, 05:07:13 PM
The Sinestro Corps trades are out next month I believe.
I think, actually, they're coming out the middle of this year. At least, that's what it says on this blog (http://collectededitions.blogspot.com/2007/10/still-more-dc-comics-2008-trade.html) which seems to deal with Trade Paper Backs quite seriously.
<blows off the dust>
Okay, so we've seen the 1st Red Lantern and given the events of the last few issues I kind of had an idea of who it would be.
Looks like orange will be up soon. We know who is making them - glad to finally see them make a reappearance - but there's no one really set up for the 1st orange lantern so far. It's supposed to be avarice so my 1st thought is Lex Luthor but I think they're trying to stick with more classic GL characters. What about that shark thing or the invisible destroyer?
One of the things I think may happen is a group of GLs could leave the Corps. Even if they don't quit I think the 4 Earth GLs are not going to be very happy with the new Laws - especially John.
And does anyone else get the feeling that the Guardian that was burned by the Anti-monitor is being unusually duplicitous with his fellow guardians - hiding something or perhaps even a traitor?
Could you spoil me a bit. I saw the one with the Alpha Lanterns, but I'm not even sure how old that one is.
[spoiler]Laira is ejected from the Corps and gets a Red Lantern apparently made from the body of one of the aliens that gave Abin Sur the prophecy. There were 2 aliens and one killed the other to make the lantern.
The Controllers are creating the orange lanterns.[/spoiler]
I'll bet that all the colors will ultimately havew to work as one, creating a White lantern, to repel the Black lanterns. As for the dearly Departed Loved ones, Didn't Kyle's ladyfriend/former hero, Jade die during the last Crisis? She'd be one to bring back, certainly.
If Yellow rings are given to those who instill fear, wouldn't Batman be a good candidate for that? I'm just sayin'.
Quote from: Protomorph on March 16, 2008, 08:47:10 PM
If Yellow rings are given to those who instill fear, wouldn't Batman be a good candidate for that? I'm just sayin'.
[spoiler](http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8246/sinestrobatjt0.jpg)[/spoiler]
heh. I didn't know that happened :)