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Title: spiral graph
Post by: bearded on May 26, 2007, 04:34:34 AM
i did it.  i used ink's parts, and made simple keyframe sequences.  some of them are ok, but hopefully ips will make better ones.
i hid a single sword in there, but the clipping is bad with it.
also needs a skin.http://beardlair.com/spiral.zip (http://beardlair.com/spiral.zip)
(http://www.beardlair.com/spiral.bmp)
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Symon on May 26, 2007, 10:08:08 AM
You have no idea how long I have been waiting for someone to take up the challenge of everyone's favorite six-armed woman.

Excellent!!
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: tommyboy on May 26, 2007, 10:10:51 AM
Looking good Bil.
Nice work.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Podmark on May 26, 2007, 01:58:39 PM
Yay Spiral!
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: djfredski on May 26, 2007, 04:40:07 PM
 :thumbup: great work on spiral
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Peerless1 on May 27, 2007, 10:27:33 AM
*speechless*
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: electro on May 27, 2007, 11:51:24 AM
The helmet looks Great :blink:
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: TaskMasterX on May 27, 2007, 02:30:39 PM
Sweet! Finally! After all these years of waiting! Thanks, Dude! Should only be a matter of time before someone skins that puppy.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Peerless1 on May 27, 2007, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: TaskMasterX on May 27, 2007, 02:30:39 PM
Sweet! Finally! After all these years of waiting! Thanks, Dude! Should only be a matter of time before someone skins that puppy.

Yeah, and upon closer *squints at screen* inspection, I see that Ink's Magik_Demon still holds it's own.  It's been used for Voodoo from wildcats, etc, and is one of MY personal favorites.  Sorry, didn't mean to yell, just too tired to activate italics feature.  :blink: *snore*  :banghead:  Or is yours from Cybernary?   :unsure: Oh, well, they were a great deal alike, and both beautiful meshes.  Kudos, BiL.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: bearded on May 27, 2007, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: Peerless1 on May 27, 2007, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: TaskMasterX on May 27, 2007, 02:30:39 PM
Sweet! Finally! After all these years of waiting! Thanks, Dude! Should only be a matter of time before someone skins that puppy.

Yeah, and upon closer *squints at screen* inspection, I see that Ink's Magik_Demon still holds it's own.  It's been used for Voodoo from wildcats, etc, and is one of MY personal favorites.  Sorry, didn't mean to yell, just too tired to activate italics feature.  :blink: *snore*  :banghead:  Or is yours from Cybernary?   :unsure: Oh, well, they were a great deal alike, and both beautiful meshes.  Kudos, BiL.  :thumbup:
i'm not really sure what you are talking about.
i got a max file from ips that had all the parts.  i physiqued the arms and did some basic animation.  then i uvw'ed the arms and helmet onto the law skin.
physiquing was harder to do than i let on.  i had to clone the bones and tediously animate the arms.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Peerless1 on May 27, 2007, 03:40:18 PM
Quote
i'm not really sure what you are talking about.
i got a max file from ips that had all the parts.  i physiqued the arms and did some basic animation.  then i uvw'ed the arms and helmet onto the law skin.
physiquing was harder to do than i let on.  i had to clone the bones and tediously animate the arms.

Well if my links weren't crashed, I'd show the image of my Annex Skope.  She is basically Ink's Magik_Demon Mesh with some modifications and a few parts skoped from Lilandra_Armor.  It's the hair and the boot fur that made me think of it....
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Peerless1 on May 28, 2007, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: ips on May 28, 2007, 05:57:12 AM
most meshers reused their own parts when making meshes. it saves time if you need to use parts which you already created for some other character. ink did this regularly aswell. bearded essentially fixed ink's spiral mesh from 3 years ago. it was not in a releasable state until BIL got to it.

either way, it looks great!
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Protomorph on June 05, 2007, 07:02:56 AM
This mesh looks great, BIL. A Long time in coming!

And a note for Peerless, this is not a NIFskoped mesh.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Peerless1 on June 05, 2007, 07:14:31 AM
Quote from: Protomorph on June 05, 2007, 07:02:56 AM
This mesh looks great, BIL. A Long time in coming!
And a note for Peerless, this is not a NIFskoped mesh.

It is great, and especially because they did it the hard way.  :thumbup: I was only pointing out the similarities in the pieces to the other meshes.  I wish I had the talent to build from scratch...but alas...Hacks like me who can't use Max files need to use Nif Skope (no insult intended to any1 else).  I have found that skoping has severe limitations though. A lot of pieces just can't be solidly attached with it, and they float around during animations.  At least building from the ground up, 1 can incorporate what they need and ensure that it all works.  Perhaps 1 day  :unsure: ...
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Tomato on June 05, 2007, 02:58:38 PM
Quote from: Peerless1 on June 05, 2007, 07:14:31 AM
Quote from: Protomorph on June 05, 2007, 07:02:56 AM
This mesh looks great, BIL. A Long time in coming!
And a note for Peerless, this is not a NIFskoped mesh.

It is great, and especially because they did it the hard way.  :thumbup: I was only pointing out the similarities in the pieces to the other meshes.  I wish I had the talent to build from scratch...but alas...Hacks like me who can't use Max files need to use Nif Skope (no insult intended to any1 else).  I have found that skoping has severe limitations though. A lot of pieces just can't be solidly attached with it, and they float around during animations.  At least building from the ground up, 1 can incorporate what they need and ensure that it all works.  Perhaps 1 day  :unsure: ...


Oh, trust me, having Max does not automatically make you not a hack.  I can't do anything beyond bevels and minor mesh pieces and I've been using Max for a few months
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: yell0w_lantern on June 05, 2007, 03:56:03 PM
If you can bevel and push vertices around on a primitive then you can make anything.
Animating, though, is a different beast all together.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: bearded on June 05, 2007, 07:18:11 PM
i am most definetly a hack.  but i do like animating best, not that i'm very good at it.  it's the modelling things i have trouble with.  my creativity doesn't mesh well with it.  i don't even know what bevelling is.
the funny thing about animating, for me, is if you do it right so it looks very real, it's hard to tell.  if it looks natural, then it's easy to overlook it. 
a word on the swords.  the only way i can think to stop the clipping, so she isn't cutting her legs and other parts off, is if i extend the swords directly from her forearms, instead of at an angle.  would that look ok?
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Protomorph on June 10, 2007, 03:16:23 PM
I was lookng at a couple of Irrational meshes the other day (70's Eve and a few others), and noticed they have an AWFUL lot of mesh clipping with weaponry. If it's not TOO bad, it's probably forgiveable to have a little bit of it.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Intensity on June 11, 2007, 10:02:40 PM
she looks amazing!

I was really surprised... I actually thought you made a 'spiral graph' mesh item... for characters to throw at eachother or something random like that.

great work :D!
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: ink on June 12, 2007, 01:12:18 AM
cool to see her released....she was easily modeled but phsyquie at the time was way over my head.  good work you two
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: AfghanAnt on September 29, 2007, 07:15:56 PM
Any way we can get a wireframe for Spiral?
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Podmark on September 30, 2007, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 29, 2007, 07:15:56 PM
Any way we can get a wireframe for Spiral?

I'm pretty sure you can make wire frames using nifskope.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: ow_tiobe_sb on October 01, 2007, 08:47:28 AM
At the risk of making this post in the wrong place, I would like to ask if someone who downloaded this mesh before beardlair.com expired would mind sending me a copy.  Please PM for e-mail address.  Alternatively, if it is hosted elsewhere, please direct me to it.  Thanks! :)

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: DEATH on October 02, 2007, 04:42:19 PM
Same question as ow_tiobe_sb...where can I get this mesh?

DEATH
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: USAgent on October 02, 2007, 07:41:54 PM
I have this mesh, but I think I already converted for FFV3R if that will cause a problem.   If anybody needs it let me know.  ( it doesnt have a skin and I think it was a work in progress)
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: megansunfire on October 04, 2007, 10:11:59 AM
I have this mesh. I found it in one of Beardedinlair's yahoo groups. Although, it didn't come with any keyframes. Are there any for it? I've tried several different ones and they don't work.

I also wonder, does reflect and glow work with this mesh, because I'm working on a spiral skin, but reflect and glow don't seem to work. (FYI: Yes I created .tga for reflect and glow)

Anyhoo, here's a little preview of the skin.

(http://my.photodump.com/megansunfire/MS_Spiral.jpg)
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: USAgent on October 04, 2007, 02:19:31 PM
I have the keyframes for this mesh which I can send you.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: laughing paradox on October 04, 2007, 03:09:14 PM
What great work.

I can't wait to get my hands on a completed Spiral.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: megansunfire on October 05, 2007, 10:11:25 AM
USAgent - I just pm'd my email address if you could send it to me.

I'll release the skin as soon as I touch up some things. (If there isn't any reflect or glow for the mesh, I'll definitely have to do some detail to the helmet.)
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Podmark on October 05, 2007, 10:45:32 AM
Quote from: megansunfire on October 05, 2007, 10:11:25 AM
USAgent - I just pm'd my email address if you could send it to me.

I'll release the skin as soon as I touch up some things. (If there isn't any reflect or glow for the mesh, I'll definitely have to do some detail to the helmet.)

Reflect and glow can be added in nifskope, there's a tutorial for it or I'm sure someone could help you out.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: ow_tiobe_sb on October 05, 2007, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: Podmark on October 05, 2007, 10:45:32 AM
Reflect and glow can be added in nifskope, there's a tutorial for it or I'm sure someone could help you out.
Aye, I did a tutorial on this procedure here (http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/NIFgmax_simple_tutorial/index4.html).

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: megansunfire on October 05, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Well I didn't have any luck with adding reflect and glow. Tried 2 different tutorials several times but it still didn't seem to work.  :wacko:

I just did some touch ups on my spiral skin. Nothing too different, mostly just more detail and darker color to the helmet so it matches the metal on her arms.
(http://my.photodump.com/megansunfire/MS_SpiralV2.jpg)
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: detourne_me on October 05, 2007, 10:10:10 PM
Wow!  this looks great Bearded and Megansunfire!  can wait to get her into the rumble room!
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: AfghanAnt on October 06, 2007, 12:37:50 AM
Looking good Mega, if you are interested I am actually working on a skope to make Spiral more accurate.

(http://i24.tinypic.com/zlbyv5.jpg)
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Jakew on October 06, 2007, 05:09:23 AM
Thats pretty funky.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: megansunfire on October 06, 2007, 08:24:41 AM
 :o :o Wow AA, I like that alot. Do you know when you'll be done with it?
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Podmark on October 06, 2007, 06:51:23 PM
Thats looking pretty good AA.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: XPTO on October 11, 2007, 07:44:46 PM
Yeah man with the parts you skoped in she´s looking much better, can´t wait to get her in game :cool:.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: Symon on October 13, 2007, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: megansunfire on October 05, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Well I didn't have any luck with adding reflect and glow. Tried 2 different tutorials several times but it still didn't seem to work.

I'm guessing one of those is mine.

I'll do you a deal. Arrange for me to get the mesh and keyframes and I'll add the refl and glow for you.
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: rmt on October 20, 2007, 09:50:19 PM
Can someone who has this mesh (whatever the latest and greatest is) please send it my way?  PM me for the address.  Thanks!!!
Title: Re: spiral graph
Post by: AfghanAnt on October 21, 2007, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: rmt on October 20, 2007, 09:50:19 PM
Can someone who has this mesh (whatever the latest and greatest is) please send it my way?  PM me for the address.  Thanks!!!

My version isn't complete and I'm not releasing until I finish skinning it.