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Title: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 03, 2007, 06:15:36 PM
Howdy guys, I just thought that I'd repost this here, so anyone who might be interested can find my voices.  I'm still planning on doing more this weekend if I get a chance.  I just got back home to Illinois, but I will probably be able to get back to it before too long.  You can find my voices at:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/bentongrey/

So far I've got:
Aquaman
Bane
Clock King
Clayface
Gordon
Bullock
Batgirl
Catwoman
Grundy
Harley
Hatter
Hex
Ivy
Crock
Metamorpho
Mr Freeze
Ocean Master
Penguin
R'as Al Ghul
Riddler
Robin
Scarecrow
Two Face
Ventriloquist
Zatanna

Just like before, any comments, criticism, whatever, are welcome.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: detourne_me on February 04, 2007, 08:39:03 AM
sweet rips from the cartoon man!
how are the voice id's,  are there any conflicts with the VPMax pack?
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 04, 2007, 10:25:11 AM
Thanks DM, have you tried them all out?  Which ones do I need to increase the volume in?  I'll post my ID's, assuming VPMAX was on the master voice ID list, then no.  Otherwise....I have no clue!  I suppose I didn't think of that.

M4-MrFreeze
M6-Mad Hatter
S6-Scarecrow
C2-Catwoman
P2-Penguin
C4-Clayface
C5-Clock King
C8-Killer Crock
A3-Aquaman
B3-Bullock
B4-Bane
B5-Batgirl
G1-Comissioner Gordon
H2-Harley Quinn
I2-Poison Ivy
R2-Riddler
R3-Robin
H2-Hex
Z3-Zatanna
T2-Talia Al Ghul
V2-Ventriloquist
T3-Two Face
O3-Ocean Master
R4-R'as Al Ghul
M7-Metamorpho
G2-Solomon Grundy
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on February 04, 2007, 02:56:28 PM
I think this is a great work. I'm more of a Marvel person than a DC guy, but this is definitely a fantastic addition.

Taking that into account, here are a couple of things that can help you to improve it. Take it as an advice, that by no means is questioning the quality of your work:

1) You may want to adapt the sound files to the FF original structure (Mono, and 64kbps MP3s). Doesn't seem to be too important, and the voices can definitely be heard with your current configuration. But it reduces the files size by 50%, which is quite a lot when you have dozens of packs installed.

2) Normalizing the files to a 100% with Cool Edit, Soundforge, or any of those programs, may prove useful during gameplay. I do that so the voices aren't lower than the FF original files. I know it's a tougher work, but it considerably improves the VPs, and makes the game more enjoyable.

3) Crimson will surely include this in future VPMAX patches. As VPMAX is a FFv3R collection, to consider the particular actions voiced in that game and not in FF would add versatility. It's not a big deal, as there aren't too many new actions, but I've heard them once in a while during gameplay. If you need help with this, don't hesitate to ask.

I hope you can continue with this. Fantastic job, indeed.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: electro on February 04, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
I,ll take all i can get DC, Marvel etc... Excellent Work - I looked at the VP Pack ID's in my editor & it seems there won't be any problems seeing how benton choose to use numbers after the first letter for the ID :blink:
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 04, 2007, 03:24:48 PM
Hey Sledge, I have been asking for feedback, so don't worry about offending me!  Ha, I really appreciate a little honest criticism, as I feel that my work is dreadfully showing my lack of experience.  That being said, let me address your observations:

1.) I have been using a free program called Audacity, and it seems to work pretty well.  I'm not sure I know how to change the file structure, but I'll play around with it and see if I can figure it out.  If you could elaborate a bit on how you do this, I would appreciate.  What I'm thinking at the moment is that, when I save it as an MP3 it gives me a few options, maybe I can change it there.

2.) Okay, I have a 'normalize' command, but it doesn't give me a any control, it just adjusts the file in a manner that is inscrutable to me.  I know that a lot of my first series of packs are way to low for FF (I hadn't started testing them until I finished most of them).  So, I've started amplifying the new packs to be a good deal louder.  I'm not quite sure if that's what you mean.  Ha, once again, please elaborate if you have the time.  I'm afraid I have NO experience with any of this, and I've just sort of been trying to teach myself as I go along.

3.)  Ahh, I had only had the lists of lines from FF1.  Could you please give me the updated list?  I'll use it from now on, and try and go back and change the others as I'm adjusting their volume. 
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on February 04, 2007, 03:51:20 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 04, 2007, 03:24:48 PM
Hey Sledge, I have been asking for feedback, so don't worry about offending me!  Ha, I really appreciate a little honest criticism, as I feel that my work is dreadfully showing my lack of experience.  That being said, let me address your observations:

1.) I have been using a free program called Audacity, and it seems to work pretty well.  I'm not sure I know how to change the file structure, but I'll play around with it and see if I can figure it out.  If you could elaborate a bit on how you do this, I would appreciate.  What I'm thinking at the moment is that, when I save it as an MP3 it gives me a few options, maybe I can change it there.

2.) Okay, I have a 'normalize' command, but it doesn't give me a any control, it just adjusts the file in a manner that is inscrutable to me.  I know that a lot of my first series of packs are way to low for FF (I hadn't started testing them until I finished most of them).  So, I've started amplifying the new packs to be a good deal louder.  I'm not quite sure if that's what you mean.  Ha, once again, please elaborate if you have the time.  I'm afraid I have NO experience with any of this, and I've just sort of been trying to teach myself as I go along.

3.)  Ahh, I had only had the lists of lines from FF1.  Could you please give me the updated list?  I'll use it from now on, and try and go back and change the others as I'm adjusting their volume. 

Not a problem. I'll elaborate a little bit more. :)

1) You need a MP3 converter. Usually, this programs can convert anything (WAV-MP3 is the typical combination, but there are others). dBpoweramp is an option, for example, and it's freeware, as far as I know (there are plenty of them around the Web). When you convert a file or a group of files (can be MP3 to MP3), any of those programs give you options, like Stereo-Mono, or the kbps of the MP3 file. As 128 kbps is your typical MP3 file, 64 kbps reduces the file size by 50%.

2) Normalizing is a term I'm familiar with through Cool Edit. It simply allows your amplify the file without causing distortions. When you normalize everything up to 100%, the volume will be higher, and the VPs will have a standard volume level. I don't know if there's a similar command in Audacity, but I'll check and let you know.

3) FFv3R adds the following lines:

MENTAL BLANK (MB) is now BLANK (BL).

HEAL (HE) - Character uses beneficial power on ally. Hardly ever used, I wouldn't pay attention to it.

HEROIC (HR) - Character uses heroic deed. One line of this (like "Excellent!", "Alright!", or "I feel refreshed!") will do.

IRRITATION (IR) - Character isn't under player control and takes damage from enemies or notes that ally is taking damage (occurs before reaction AI starts responding). That means, the character sees someone being attacked, and says something about it.

OVERPOWER (OP) - Character uses over-powered attack. Alchemiss says "With a little something extra". Something like that.

PAIN (PA). Different from MAJOR PAIN (MP). Pain is for little damage. Major Pain is for major hits. I usually cover Pain with small grunts, and Major Pain with screaming phrases.

RECOVER (RV) - Character recovers from bad primary state (like stasis, stun, etc). "Feeling better", "I'm recovered", those lines.

RESPOND (RP) - Character decides to respond to damage or damage to allies (occurs before reaction AI starts acting). Here the character is not being controlled by the player, and reacts when attacked. I frequently use lines like "Come here, you!" or "Gotcha!", as usually involves melee fighting.


HEAL is unnecessary unless you character can actually heal others. BLANK is very rarely used. HEROIC, IRRITATION, RECOVER, RESPOND and OVERPOWER are more common, and one line for each of them would be great (this, of course, in an ideal context - not always you can cover everything). PAIN needs 2 or 3 grunts, and that's it.

Hope it's less confusing now.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 04, 2007, 03:58:11 PM
Thanks Sledge, that is a big help.  I'll start incorporating the new lines, and I'll try and go back through and add in similair lines in my old packs.  Some of them will have to wait, as I have been deleting my samples once I finish a pack, so I'll have to scour some episodes over again.  Please do check out Audacity, and let me know how to do what you're suggesting, and I will be happy to normalize all of my packs.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 04, 2007, 06:10:57 PM
Okay, I've finished one more, though it should be noted that I haven't instituted all of Sledge's suggestions yet, since I had already started this pack.

Black Manta is now available, and I think I'm going to need to open a new yahoo group!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: electro on February 05, 2007, 09:24:02 PM
Audacity is a good program - I have been ussing it for the past year to make my City of Heroes Mods - You should use the Effect (Fade out) at the end of your voices so they don't sound suddenly chopped off & you can raise the volume of the mp3's in your packs very easy with Audacity - I went threw and tweaked the volume on a couple of your packs - other than that these are very, very usefull - Thanks again :blink:
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on February 05, 2007, 09:38:49 PM
I also put a list of lines for both FF and FFvTTR and basically what they're used for on the wiki, along with a recommendation of how many to use, based on the default sound packs and personal experience. (but mostly the former.)
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 06, 2007, 07:16:18 AM
Ok, thanks Cat.  I had only glanced at the wiki before, looks like I need to give it a closer look.  I'm really glad that you're enjoying them Electro!  I have used he Fade Out effect on some of the samples that were especially choppy at the end.  Do you think I should use it on all of them?  It seems like that would make it a bit too soft at the end of most of the samples.  You say that you tweaked the volume on some of the packs?  Well, as I'm going to have to go back through and do that for most of the rest of them, would you mind sending me the ones you've tweaked?  It would save me some time in going back through my old packs ^_^
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: electro on February 06, 2007, 04:15:40 PM
How about this - i,ll tweak the Vol on half of them & you do the other half - here are the ones i will tweak

M4-MrFreeze
M6-Mad Hatter
S6-Scarecrow
C2-Catwoman
P2-Penguin
C4-Clayface
C5-Clock King
C8-Killer Crock
A3-Aquaman
B3-Bullock
B4-Bane
B5-Batgirl

I,ll probably send them this weekend :blink:
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 06, 2007, 04:20:28 PM
Hey man, thanks!  That'd be a huge help.  That will allow me to tweak the rest, and I can re-release them this weekend.  That way, CQ should have a better product for his VPMAX.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on February 07, 2007, 06:31:40 PM
Benton,

I've checked Audacity. The option is called "Amplify" there. It's automatic. You can even amplify only some parts of the file (when it's very low in one sector and very loud in the other).

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 07, 2007, 07:33:20 PM
Thanks Sledge, I suspected as much.  I will (with the help of Electro) update all of my files that have already been released, and I am making sure to 'normalize' any new packs that I am compiling.  Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 07, 2007, 11:03:29 PM
Okay, I'm getting ready to get some shut-eye, but tomorrow I should have some goodies from the Superman:TAS ready for release:

Lobo
Lex Luthor
Killer Frost
Livewire
Parasite (maybe, probably need more)
Gorilla Grodd
Deadman
Metallo
Toyman
Weather Wizard
Brainiac
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: detourne_me on February 08, 2007, 06:53:57 AM
yes! more voicepacky goodness.  im a huge TAS fan, so i love these,  and to hear that they might be in VPMAX too!  even more good news!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 08, 2007, 02:14:35 PM
Glad you're enjoing them, DM!  Here's another batch.  I didn't finish all I wanted to do today, I've spent most of the day working on various job applications.  Here is what we have though:

Brainiac
Killer Frost
Gorilla Grodd
Lex Luthor
Live Wire
Lobo
Metallo
Shade
Toyman
Deadman

As before, many of these will be updated when I get to the other episodes with these characters.  They are all available at my second yahoo group, here:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/bentongrey2/
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 09, 2007, 09:53:14 AM
Okay, I finished up the last couple that I had samples for.  I might be able to do one or two more packs over the weekend, but I'll most likely be spending most of my time re-adjusting and editing the older packs.  Either way, here are:

Parasite
Weather Wizard
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Mystik on February 09, 2007, 05:01:39 PM
hey benton i was wondering why no batman or superman, i thought these would be on the top of your list,
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Carravaggio on February 09, 2007, 05:27:08 PM
a heavy helping of DC voices? how the hell did i miss this? great work B, im off to get them ASAP!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 09, 2007, 07:12:35 PM
Quote from: Thor Reborn on February 09, 2007, 05:01:39 PM
hey benton i was wondering why no batman or superman, i thought these would be on the top of your list,

Howdy man, before all of the old posts got DX'ed, I had addressed that, but I suppose I need to do it again. ^_^  I actually started all of this in an attempt to get a Batman voicepack, however, in his own show, he really doesn't have too many lines that aren't directly related to the plot of a particular episode, and thus, not terribly appropriate for a voicepack.  So, I realized that it would take me ages to go through each episode trying to find enough quotes for a pack the type of which Bats deserves.  While I was looking, I started picking up samples for Robin and his villains, and then here we are.  In the end, there is a great voicepack out there for Batman (by Viking, I think) and an equally excellent one for Supes, so I decided that I could do the most for the community by focusing on characters that don't have any packs at all yet.  I DO intend to do both Bats and Supes eventually, but the same problem exists for the big blue, so it's a slow process. 

The top of my list at the moment are the other Leaguers, and (if I can manage to make it work with the few lines he has) Hawkman.  I'm still trying to get as many different villains as I can, because I think that adds SO Much to the game, to have your villains actually sound like themselves.  Anyroad, stay tuned, and we should get to the big two eventually.

Carravaggio, hey!  I'm glad you found 'em.  Please, download them and tell me what you think!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 10, 2007, 04:38:08 PM
Okay, I have finished tweaking the volume on my half of the old voicepacks, I'm going to go through and make sure everything is working properly, and add in some of the lines I didn't have before.  I'll probably do that tomorrow.  Electro, when you're finished, just email them to me, I'll PM my email addy to you now. 

IMPORTANT:  If you've downloaded any of the following voices already, and don't intend to get the new VPMAX when it comes out, please re-download them.  These will be of appropriate volumes, otherwise you might not even be able to hear them in-game.  If you want to wait for the next issue of VPMAX, they should be included with it.

M4-MrFreeze
M6-Mad Hatter
S6-Scarecrow
C2-Catwoman
P2-Penguin
C4-Clayface
C5-Clock King
C8-Killer Crock
A3-Aquaman
B3-Bullock
B4-Bane
B5-Batgirl
G1-Comissioner Gordon
H3-Harley Quinn
I2-Poison Ivy
R2-Riddler
R3-Robin
H2-Hex
Z3-Zatanna
T2-Talia Al Ghul
V2-Ventriloquist
T3-Two Face
O3-Ocean Master
R4-R'as Al Ghul
M7-Metamorpho
G2-Solomon Grundy
M8-Black Manta

The other voices should be fine.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on February 10, 2007, 08:10:43 PM
Great work! I'll test them as soon as they're available...
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 13, 2007, 10:23:22 AM
Okay guys and gals, I've got roughly half of the original voices redone, and many of them have added lines, etc.  I also have a couple of new voices, although I think only one of them is ready.  The following are uploaded to my first yahoo group, and ready for use:

Aquaman
Grundy
Harley
Hex
Manta
Ivy
Metamorpho
Ocean Master
Ras Al Ghul
Riddler
Robin
Two Face
Ventriloquist
Zatanna (She is VASTLY improved, with many more lines and a much better setup)

Also, Sinestro is now available on my second group, and Circe should be soon.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on February 14, 2007, 02:51:07 PM
I've tried a couple of them so far, and they are vastly improved. Great work there, Benton! Always nice to see more VPs in the community, an aspect of the game that has been quite neglected in the past.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 14, 2007, 03:40:27 PM
Thanks Sledge, I'm happy to hear that you like them.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they're improved. :D  I'm about halfway through with the re-doing the rest, so they should be available presently.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: electro on February 14, 2007, 03:48:46 PM
Agreed those sound very tight now - (Grundy whoOO hoOO) My characters seem to have more life now with these new voices - keep'em comming i,ll take all you can dish out :blink:
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 14, 2007, 04:05:17 PM
Haha, I'll do what I can Electro.  I'm a little burnt out right now, 'cause of having to go back and edit them all, but I'll feel better when I'm back to sampling and editing again!  So, hopefully we'll see more packs in the next few weeks.  I still want to do the leaguers and Hawkman, if I can.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 16, 2007, 03:01:13 PM
All of my original packs are now finished!  These are being uploaded to my first yahoo group as we speak.  FINALLY!  Anyroad, if you got these before, please go ahead and get them again, they should be much better!

M4-MrFreeze
M6-Mad Hatter
S6-Scarecrow
C2-Catwoman
P2-Penguin
C4-Clayface
C5-Clock King
C8-Killer Crock
B3-Bullock
B4-Bane
B5-Batgirl

Also, if you downloaded either Livewire or Metallo, they both had the wrong ID's, and I'm uploading fixed versions to my second yahoo group.  Well, all of the hard stuff is out of the way, no I can get back to sampling.  Look forward to some more packs MAYBE by the end of the weekend...but probably not until next week.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 22, 2007, 12:42:06 PM
Oooooooooh kay....well, I thought that I'd be able to have something out by now, but it turns out that I took a lot more samples than I thought I had!  Ha, well, I've finished editing all of them, and I'm just about done with the first season fo Justice League.  Now, I've got to package things up and set up the voice files.  I MIGHT get all of the following released today, might not:

Hawkgirl
Felix Faust
Mongul
Wonder Woman
Manhunter Robot
Circe

I have some samples for Hades, the Flash, Batman, and Superman; and I'm almost done with: John Stewart, Martian Manhunter, and Giganta
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 22, 2007, 01:56:55 PM
Well, to be honest, this is just me being plain lazy!  Ha, I have finished three of the voicepacks, and they are uploaded to my second group.  Now available:

Felix Faust
Mongul
Manhunter Robot
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Carravaggio on February 23, 2007, 04:10:11 AM
Faust? now that is a must have! thanks BentonGrey for all the DC love!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on February 23, 2007, 05:13:01 PM
Thanks man, glad you're enjoying them!  I've got even more DC goodness coming out...erm, eventually.  For the moment, these two will have to tide all of you over.

Circe
Wonder Woman

Both of these lovely ladies are available on my second Yahoo group.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on May 04, 2007, 08:08:30 AM
Well guys, I have some rather bad news.  I went back to work on my voicepacks yesterday while there was a lull in characters to add, and I discovered that the youtube files I was using to sample from have all been taken down.  You see, I bought my DVD's as soon as the season went off the air, when it wasn't officially available yet, and they won't play on my computer.  (Now, I know we're not supposed to talk about this kind of thing here, and if a mod feel that this is inappropriate, I'll be happy to edit this post, but I just figured I should let you all know that it's going to be a good while before I can make more packs.)  I always intended to buy the real DVD's, and this has simply moved up my timetable for it.  This series deserves to be supported more than just about anything else, so it was always my intention to get the DVD's, but I was planning to wait until, maybe next Christmas.  Anyroad, I have been watching the official DVD's like a hawk, trying to find them at decent prices, but our funds are extremely limited, so it's going to be a while before I've got all of them.  All this to say, my voicepacks are going on a longer hiatus than planned.  I do still have a ton of samples that I haven't meshed together yet, so you might see one or two more after I release the mod, but no promises.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Panther_Gunn on May 04, 2007, 11:44:28 AM
Do those DVD's (quite possibly VCD's) play fine on your regular DVD player?  Does that player have a set of stereo out jacks (at the very least, it has the lines to the tv/stereo)?  You should be able to buy a simple Y-cable from Radio Shack, going from the standard red & white stereo plugs to a microphone/headphone sized plug.  Plug that into the line in/microphone jack on your sound card, and you're set.  Of course, I did this with my laptop, so it was a little easier to transport & set up on top of the stereo.  ^_^
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Peerless1 on August 01, 2007, 06:43:38 AM
I recently downloaded your VP collection, and I must say...

Your selections are great!  They are so dead-on.  I had a couple of laughs just listening to Orin/Arthur/Aquaman.  "Keep me waiting again at your peril."  -- That is so  :lol: funny!

Awesome work!  Thanks.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 01, 2007, 07:19:46 AM
Benton, if you can tell me the episode and time where a given clip is, I can obtain anything from JLA season 2 for you.

Unfortunately, that's all I have now, except for the entire Batman Beyond Series.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Mystik on August 01, 2007, 11:16:22 AM
if you cant find them on youtube try stage6
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on August 01, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
Thanks Peerless, I'm really glad you liked them.  Haha, yeah, every time I play with Arthur in the game I have to do random stuff just to enjoy his lines. :D 

I'm glad you like my selections too, but it's mostly thanks to the awesome people behind JLU!

Wow, thanks Cat!  I've got tomorrow off, I may very well take you up on that offer.

TR, hmm...I'll check that out!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Mystik on August 01, 2007, 05:31:17 PM
I just cant wait till you finally get to batman and superman
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on August 01, 2007, 05:53:10 PM
Haha....I've got some samples for each...but you'd be surprised at just how hard it is to find the right ones.  I'm afraid I may have too many irons in the fire to get back to them any time soon, but I do want to finish all of the voice packs eventually.  I'm secretly hoping that someone else will pick up where I left off! ^_^
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on August 15, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
Amazing!  Unbelievable!  It's another voice pack from Benton Grey!  Haha, I'm working on the sounds portion of my mod like I promised I would.....though it's taken me a good long time to get to it, and I found that I had a nearly completed Martian Manhunter pack just layin' around.  So I finished it up and uploaded it to my first yahoo group.  Maybe I'll find some more while I'm cleaning house, but don't get your hopes up!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on August 16, 2007, 08:26:48 PM
Ho-ho!  Two in one week, what's going on?  Yep, I realized that I had enough on the Flash to release a serviceable pack.  It's not great, and I'll probably update it before too terribly long.  (I've got the samples from two episodes just sitting untouched on my hard-drive.  I've just got to find the time to go through them.)  Still, you can ride the lightning along with Wally (or Barry, if you're like me) on my first Yahoo group.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Mystik on August 18, 2007, 11:23:35 AM
just installed these, thanx benton
hope you continue

p.s I can send you any batman/superman/jlu episode in mp3 format if you like
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on August 19, 2007, 08:02:40 PM
Very nice, Benton! It's nice to know you continue to create these things. I'm more of a Marvel fan, but I can surely appreciate a great Voicepack. And I think they capture the essence of the characters quite well.

Besides, I've been covering Marvel for a while. It's nice that people here have the opportunity to pick voices from the other "Big One".

Keep it up.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on August 21, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
Thanks guys!  I really appreciate the support.  I was beginning to think that no-one had noticed these two releases! ^_^  Sledgehammer, I'm hoping my mod will make a convert out of you!  Haha, plus, I'm much more of a Marvel fan than my current workload would let on, so I definitely appreciate all the work you do!

Thanks Thor, I will DEFINITELY take you up on those!  Perhaps when I finish a release-able version of my mod, I'll pick up where I left off.  I'll have to see what my schedule is like when I start classes tomorrow.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Revenant on August 21, 2007, 07:44:58 PM
Awesome.. I'm gonna try to get these to work (I have notoriously bad luck installing voicepacks.)
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on August 21, 2007, 07:51:05 PM
Haha, well Rev, if you need any help don't be shy with the PM's.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Panther_Gunn on August 21, 2007, 08:34:57 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on August 21, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
Thanks guys!  I really appreciate the support.  I was beginning to think that no-one had noticed these two releases! ^_^ 

I notice *every* post in this forum.  I just don't always comment on them.  Kinda like Uatu.  :P

One of these days, I gotta start gathering up some of these newer VP's.  Oh, where does the time go?
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Sledgehammer on August 22, 2007, 11:14:16 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on August 21, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
Sledgehammer, I'm hoping my mod will make a convert out of you!  Haha, plus, I'm much more of a Marvel fan than my current workload would let on, so I definitely appreciate all the work you do!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a pro-Marvel, against-DC kinda guy. It's a bit childish to think that way. I think Batman is a very complex character, dark and interesting. And his cast of villains (the biggest one alongside Spidey's, I presume) are mainly focused on the intellectual aspect, which is quite appealing.

Besides that, I have always enjoyed teamwork, and that's why the Justice League is an obvious choice. I played JLH and it was a lot of fun, and I particularly enjoyed playing with Zatanna. Zee's sense of humor is perfect when mixed with Batman's dark tone, Supes' leadership, WW's ready-for-anything attitude, or Manhunter's calm demeanor. And I personally consider a nice thing that some characters are aware that they are sexy and decide to show it. Zatanna is one example, She-Hulk is other one. I'm not talking about just being sexy, or writers using that aspect as an excuse to show underwear/nudity. I'm talking about adding that element to their personalities. For example, Rogue's flirtatiousness is something that I truly think suits her, and, if well-written, it makes the whole I-can't-touch-you issue more dramatic.

Well, I'm talking about anything BUT your VPs, so I'll just say I'll download whatever new creations you add in the future.

Keep it up!
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Panther_Gunn on September 08, 2007, 07:55:31 PM
Well, I've finally had some time to d/l a couple of these packs & listen to them.  Unfortunately, for my taste, there's too much background noise (sound effects, music, etc).  I *wish* there was an easy way to strip all that stuff out.  *sigh*

Other than that, I do have a couple of observations.  I've noticed that some of the clips seem to have quite a degree of digitization sound to them, as if they're meant to sound like they're coming through a comm system, or some alternate means of communicating (I noticed it on the Flash & Martian Manhunter packs).  It's not all the clips for the pack, but more than just one or two, and it's enough of a change to be noticable. 

Also, for some reason, over the course of a couple different clips in a pack, it almost sounds like some clips are done by a different voice actor.  The Sinestro pack, it seems like they all came from the same episode (judging from some of the lines & background music), but it still sounds to me like enough of a vocal change that it's not the same person.  Could be just me, though.  ;)
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on September 08, 2007, 08:02:55 PM
QuoteI *wish* there was an easy way to strip all that stuff out.  *sigh*

I found a program that's supposed to do that.  Don't remember what it is, but I think I put it on a thread somewhere around here. . .

QuoteOther than that, I do have a couple of observations.  I've noticed that some of the clips seem to have quite a degree of digitization sound to them, as if they're meant to sound like they're coming through a comm system, or some alternate means of communicating (I noticed it on the Flash & Martian Manhunter packs).  It's not all the clips for the pack, but more than just one or two, and it's enough of a change to be noticable.

Also, for some reason, over the course of a couple different clips in a pack, it almost sounds like some clips are done by a different voice actor.  The Sinestro pack, it seems like they all came from the same episode (judging from some of the lines & background music), but it still sounds to me like enough of a vocal change that it's not the same person.  Could be just me, though.  wink

I think Benton said that he got most of the clips from Youtube.  That might explain it.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on September 08, 2007, 09:14:52 PM
Thanks for the feedback PG.  Cat's observation is correct, all of the JLU packs come from Youtube, so that affects the sound quality, but also many of the 'digitized' sounds are the results of me doing noise removal from particular clips.  I had a choice of A) Not using a clip at all, and therefore oftentimes not having enough clips for a pack.  B) Using a clip with heavy background noise/music and just ignoring that (which I did with some of my earlier ones before I figured out the noise removal system), or C) Trying to remove as much of the noise as possible without ruining the line.  I'm afraid in trying to walk that line I've probably stepped over it as often as I've tread it, but alas, it's a delicate process.

Some packs do apparently include work with different voice actors.  In my Aquaman pack there are actually lines (not used) by a fellow who's work I like A LOT better than the one who is included, but they are too few to make a new pack and too different to include.  With a few of them I thought the difference in sound negligible enough to include, but perhaps I made the wrong call.  The Sinestro pack actually came from around eight different episodes, one in Superman: TAS, one in Static Shock, and several in JLU.

I'm afraid that pulling voice samples from a TV show like this is just an imperfect process.  Ideally, I'd be a zillionaire and just be able to employ all of these voice actors to give us nice, pristine packs that would suit our purposes to the nth degree.......however, I'm afraid I'm far from super rich. :P  Given time and energy, I'll finish my sampling from the remaining four seasons and change of JLU and, not only produce many new packs, but also really improve those I'm not happy with (Flash and MM being prime examples).  However, I'm rather hoping that Sledge's work with JLH will save me some effort, most notably a Hal pack and...well...all of them really.  I just wish Hawkamn was included in the game for oh so many reasons. 

Well, I suppose that's about all I can say about it, but trust me in that the shortcomings of these packs are of greater concern to me than to anyone else. :wacko:
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: Panther_Gunn on September 08, 2007, 11:03:58 PM
I wasn't sure if the digitizing was the way the clip originally sounded, or was from step in the process.  I was *afraid* it might have come from attempting to pull out background noise, as I might be trying that with some other things (I remember cat's post about a program too), but just hadn't gotten around to it yet.  I know that working with sound files for long periods can get tiresome, and it's easy to miss something that you would normally catch.  That's one of the reasons my yet-to-be-finished animal voice packs are still yet-to-be-finished.  :P 

I knew these were coming from the TV shows, but had forgotten about the YouTube source for many of them.  I suppose one of the reasons I didn't d/l any right at the beginning was my reticence about background noise, and perhaps I was unconsciously hoping that you had found a good way to clean it up.  I agree that there are choices that have to be made, and certain threshholds that need to be considered.  Even if I don't find them to my liking, it looks like many, many people are perfectly happy with them, so it's obvious that you chose wisely in releasing them.  Even if you were dithering on whether to release or not, and no one else had heard them yet, I'd still tell you to do so, as long as *you* were happy with it.  It's better to have something for people to decide if they want to use or not, than not have anything at all.

Quote from: BentonGrey on September 08, 2007, 09:14:52 PM...also really improve those I'm not happy with (Flash and MM being prime examples).

I *would* randomly pick two to check out that you weren't happy with.  :doh:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on September 09, 2007, 07:54:51 AM
PG, I'd suggest you try the Aquaman, Freeze, and Robin packs.  They're probably my best, and some of my favorite characters so I spent more time on them.  They still have issues, but perhaps less than some of the others.  Martian Manhunter and Flash were both unfinished packs that I released because I knew it would be a long time before I could get around to working on these again, so they are likely some of my worst.

Ohh, and I suppose I may as well say: If anyone feels that they'd care to improve on my work, that would be fine with me.  Just give me credit in the final product.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: steamteck on September 09, 2007, 10:59:36 AM
Your voicepacks are wonderful! They add so much to my experience! Thanks again. Another huge JLU fan here of course.
Title: Re: It Finally Happened.....Again
Post by: BentonGrey on September 09, 2007, 11:07:14 AM
Thanks Steamteck, I'm thrilled that you enjoy them! ^_^