(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/852/wolvxbk0.jpg)
Is this a hoax? The new title seems unnecessarily obvious...perhaps even redundant. My impression is that, at least since the 1990s, this has always been the implication of every X-title in which Wolverine appears regularly (or irregularly): Wolverine (top billing) and X(YZ). :P
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Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat
Nope, not a hoax. That's been the name of the toon since it was first brought to the public a year or so ago. Yay for using the more modern design...Boo to emma...boo to cyclop's coat. :P
I wonder how they chose the cast. At the moment, it seems like the astonishing team with a little uncanny/xmen thrown in.
wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_and_the_X-Men)
Well.....I HATE the idea of Wolverine, guest starring the X-Men, but the cast is almost a good thing. Minus Emma, I'd be happy to watch a show with those characters.
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2007, 01:13:23 PMBoo to emma...boo to cyclop's coat. :P
ditto.....ditto....and you forgot Boo to Nightcrawler's entire look. Is that emo hair? <_<
I like the design aesthetic the artists went for... seems like a much sleeker version of X-Men: Evolution but utilizing the comic book costumes.
Yeah, the designs (for the most part) are fine by me, it's the concept that rubs me the wrong way.
Honestly except for the Wolverine top billing I'm fine with everything else and I've become a big fan of Emma Frost when she's written as an insensitive intellectual instead of as Paris Hilton.
Does this mean Wolvie will be the team leader? I've always thought he would make a good leader...in the past. It could have been such a great story angle.
I haven't read an X-title in a long long long long time. I don't know the Paris Hiltoninsh Emma Frost. So I can't boo her.
*blinks* Squidboy??? Seriously?
Yeeesh ... that looks terrible! Ultra-cheesy title, and Wolverine's physique is way off. I liked it better when Wolverine was a short, nuggety, beat-up looking guy. A lot of empty space in the middle of the poster, too.
Is that Emma Frost? I would swear to the gaoler and the hangman that was Anna Nicole Smith. Well, all I can say is that I have more respect for Logan knowing that he was not consorting with that lot. Still, I think 'tis a rotten dirty scheme to use those claws to skewer more pre-teen to thirty-something sales on anything from brass Canuckles to feral Underoos (which the young Bunburyist will not don in his lifetime, that you very much).
ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and The Prat in the Hat
Tall Wolverine makes baby professor X cry! Please oh please just have Colossus as a main character and an ACTUAL X-man this time!
Still I don't know if I can bring myself to watch it, that title... is so stupid... it is incredibly truthful but still...
I don't see Star Wars Episodes 1 - 3 being renamed, Anakin the Whiny Wuss of the Dark Side and his Star Wars Friends Episode 1 - 3! Let us rename Star Trek as Capt. Kirk & Friends! OH what about Picard & Pals!
Eh.... coulda looked a lot worse. At least I don't mind the look of most of the characters.
Regrettably, Wolverine looks like Bruce Wayne lamenting the unavailability of his Batman suit. And Nightcrawler just looks... wrong. He seriously needs to be told that he doesn't need eyeliner. I mean, Goth is so not his style.
meh, the 90's cartoon will always be the best one to me. Not really a fan of this new stuff that much. And that title is ridiculous, even if everyone knows it's true. I mean I like Wolverine and all, but really...
K, let's tell it how it is.
1. The studio isn't making this toon for comic fans.
2. Giving Wolverine top billing is going to bring in the kiddies. He is, by far, the most popular X-man.
3. The line up we see wasn't chosen from the comics it was inspired by the movie trilogy. Emma was probably thrown in for tweens to gawk over.
4. Tall Wolvie may make baby Professor X cry but Wolverine was one of the tallest X-men in the movie trilogy. That's how kids see him, as a 6 foot tall guy not the 5 foot shrimp comic fans love.
5. Cyclops' jacket may not look good to us but animators need to have something on the design that moves a little. His design is almost completely black and with no hair there is no movement. Adding that lame jacket gives them something to work with. I would say that it's more a animation design than anything.
I'm not a fan of Wolverine, never have been, never will be. My son on the other hand thinks he is the bee's knees. I'm sure he will tune in every chance he gets. By osmosis so will I. My son enjoys stuff then I take an interest. I may not like Wolvie and I may very well not enjoy watching the show but I bet I still tune in each time my son wants to watch it. :mjb:
-MJB
Quote from: MJB on September 28, 2007, 11:07:14 PM
3. The line up we see wasn't chosen from the comics it was inspired by the movie trilogy. Emma was probably thrown in for tweens to gawk over.
Only one problem with this statement...that is almost the exact lineup to astonishing minus Colossus isnt a main character. Also, I really don't think the toon is that influence by the movie since quite a few of those characters werent even mentioned in the movies (nor did they have huge roles). If anything, I'd assume it'd have it's own loose continuity that could easily take elements from several different sources. Quick question...is that shadowcat in the picture or X-23? I can't tell since the character seems to have claws like X-23...which would put it closer to X-men Evo which might be a good thing.
To add a little more news, there seem to be 26 episodes (which could easily be split into 2 seasons) and Greg Johnson, writer of x-men evo and all the marvel direct-to-video movies, is also working on the project.
Link to another pic: Clickster (http://news.toonzone.net/image.php?imageID=2242&___r=%2Farticle.php%3FID%3D16557)
Side note: MJB, you seem to be thinking that kids only know wolverine from the movie trilogy and I find that to be highly doubtful. Yes, he is uber popular...which means kids have a ton of sources to see wolvie in at his true size. Remember how many games he's in from the pass 4 years? Then add in all the fighting games and so on and so on...so yeah.
If that guys is responsible for the X-Men Evolution show, I can't say that is inspiring news.
In that picture.....is that Professor X....walking?
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on September 28, 2007, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2007, 01:13:23 PMBoo to emma...boo to cyclop's coat. :P
ditto.....ditto....and you forgot Boo to Nightcrawler's entire look. Is that emo hair? <_<
agreed, looks like he's been playing too much soul reaver :thumbdown:
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2007, 11:44:23 PM
Side note: MJB, you seem to be thinking that kids only know wolverine from the movie trilogy and I find that to be highly doubtful. Yes, he is uber popular...which means kids have a ton of sources to see wolvie in at his true size. Remember how many games he's in from the pass 4 years? Then add in all the fighting games and so on and so on...so yeah.
I don't think that kids only know about Wolvie from the movie trilogy. It is proven fact that he is the most well known and popular X-man.
Common, what has introduced these characters to the youth of America in the past so many years?
The movie trilogy you say? The same trilogy that grossed $1,163,063,674 in three films? And you wonder why he has top billing? In the 3 X-men films Logan gained more screen time in each sequential flick.
Last but not least how many games have actually featured Wolverine at his proper size? I would bet that not many have.
Comic geeks like myself know that Logan is 5 foot 5 but the general populace, that FAR outnumber us, think he is over 6 feet tall.
-MJB
Quote from: MJB on September 29, 2007, 03:47:04 AM
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2007, 11:44:23 PM
Side note: MJB, you seem to be thinking that kids only know wolverine from the movie trilogy and I find that to be highly doubtful. Yes, he is uber popular...which means kids have a ton of sources to see wolvie in at his true size. Remember how many games he's in from the pass 4 years? Then add in all the fighting games and so on and so on...so yeah.
I don't think that kids only know about Wolvie from the movie trilogy. It is proven fact that he is the most well known and popular X-man.
Common, what has introduced these characters to the youth of America in the past so many years?
The movie trilogy you say? The same trilogy that grossed $1,163,063,674 in three films? And you wonder why he has top billing? In the 3 X-men films Logan gained more screen time in each sequential flick.
Last but not least how many games have actually featured Wolverine at his proper size? I would bet that not many have.
Comic geeks like myself know that Logan is 5 foot 5 but the general populace, that FAR outnumber us, think he is over 6 feet tall.
-MJB
Pretty sure his Ultimate incarnation is a 6-footer too. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if they had let Thunderbird live and had offed Wolvie instead.
If I do watch this, I'm just going to try my best not to compare it to other X-men works. I'll porbally enjoy it more that way. However, I might not if Wolverine gets more then 3/4ths of screen time and the rest of the X-Men get minor roles, and are just there to attract a few more people.
I am going to have to say this show is pretty much going to like butcher all the things we know and love about the X-Men.
The visuals might be nice, plot maybe be somewhat interesting but nothing more.
I have a question though......
WHAT is with all the Emma Frost HATE???
She isn't all that bad. It isn't like she is as evil as Lumi the Snow Queen (from Fables)
Quote from: Nymph on September 29, 2007, 05:53:22 AM
WHAT is with all the Emma Frost HATE???
She isn't all that bad. It isn't like she is as evil as Lumi the Snow Queen (from Fables)
She goes against the grain. Female superheroes are supposed to be these fantasy fulfillment characters instead of the cheerleader that picked on comic book nerds. Personally I think she's great, but then again I never liked Jean Gray.
hear hear Lugaru. Emma is pretty awesome. im stoked about having her in the cast. in fact i love this cast set up... and knowing that petey's in there too. i could live without rogue, and we need the professor (PS he's been walking about 1/3 of the time hes been in comics, so 1 out of 3 cartoons is just about right)
Quote from: BentonGrey on September 28, 2007, 11:49:16 PMIn that picture.....is that Professor X....walking?
Looks like he's got some sort of leg braces on, possibly cybernetic. Worst of both worlds? ;)
Prof is walking in the comics currently, but without the braces and I'm pretty much fine with it. Though, I really doubt he's been walking in 1/3rd of the comics he's been in. :P. Also, let's not forget that he also walked in the 90s tas for a couple of episodes so let's give him a chance. It could actually make him slightly more useful than he's usually portrayed.
Emma will be ok depending on how they portray her in the series. I...just don't like her and I never have. Not just because she's basically replaced jean and is tied into the phoenix story because of the Phoenix trilogy, but more of because I usually don't click with her personality. Hey, at least she's open about most of the things she does and at least they chose one of her tamer costumes...hrm...wonder if the "hellfire club" will show up at all? :P
MJB, er...everyone knows Wolverine is popular. He was popular before the movie and he was after the movie. He has to be popular if he's the only xman to be in every xmen related franchise. Hello, the guy has been in over 30 games since 1989, so no one is disputing that and we didn't need a movie to see that. The only games that have probably not shown wolvie in his proper size in comparison to his team mates will probably be the movie related ones...that's 2 out of like 36 (not including ultimate spidey which used ultimate wolvie). No one is wondering why he has top billing in the least bit. He always had it...so I don't even know why you're trying to defend that point. Those movies did come out around the same time as the Legend games (and 5 different games with wolvie in them came out right alongside the first movie and most were crossover/cross platform fighters so there's different sources already), so there were already more than one source for the general public to find out more info for wolvie. Also, the movies may have introduced the characters, but you're greatly forgetting that kids have the power to go online and find out all this information for themselves if the characters truly intrigued them. Kids are craftier than most people give them credit for so let's not think that they got all their info from one movie franchise if they are really interested...unless they're too young to use the internet or too young to even see the last few X-related cartoons or only just went to the movie to have something to do/watch. ^_^
Last but not least...
Mainstream Wolvie= 5'3"
Ultimate Wolvie = 5'9"
*poofs off*
Most children don't have internet access in this country. The movies have been the sole source for mass audiences to see the X-men in action.
I'm not defending Wolverine, hell I can't stand him most of the time. I was just trying to explain why a studio would name the series after him. We also have to consider the upcoming Wolverine movie. They are probably trying to make a buck off that tie in as well.
-MJB
I don't think this is the place for a discussion like that. :?
-MJB
Link to PDF with study info (http://www.nielsen-netratings.com/pr/pr_040318.pdf)
74.9% of Americans living in households with a fixed line phone have home access to the Internet
Access by age group:
* 63.4% of people 55 years old and older
* 81.7% of women between the ages of 35 and 54
* 80.2% of men between the ages of 35 and 54
* 77.0% of women between the ages of 25 and 34
* 75.6% of men between the ages of 25 and 34
* 75.0% of young adults between the ages of 18 and 24
* 77.6% of kids between the ages of 2 and 17
Actually there are only about 60 million gun owners (http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/KleckAndGertz1.htm) in the US currently. How having internet access correlates to gun ownership doesn't really make any sense at all seeing as if we even went so far as to assume all gun owners have internet access that would only be roughly >29% of the total internet using population in the US.
As there are around 233 million internet users of some kind in the US currently.
I guess it could be a statement showing that both have high penetration values in the US respectively with one having around 70% (internet) and the other about 49% (guns) at least with adults. If that is the case then the statement makes sense as a parallel. Though without any facts it looks like you are being merely argumentative and combative, looking rather silly. Honestly mentioning televisions or phones would have probably been a better idea unless you just wanted that stark image of guns compared to internent usage. Though that is rather sensationlist if you ask me.
Link to info (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm)
Quote from: ips on September 29, 2007, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: MJB on September 29, 2007, 02:10:08 PM
Most children don't have internet access in this country. The movies have been the sole source for mass audiences to see the X-men in action.
-MJB
if they have access to guns they have access to the internet. i respectfully disagree.
Look at me I am making a statement with facts and not just saying something without backing it up!
Wait I wanna try! I am important too!
if they have access to jell-o pudding they have access to the internet. i respectfully disagree.
:blink: :unsure: :blink:
Back on subject... what's the deal with re-designing Nightcrawlers duds? His original costume was near perfect IMO. One of the best designs out there.
-MJB
Quote from: MJB on September 29, 2007, 09:56:05 PM
:blink: :unsure: :blink:
Back on subject... what's the deal with re-designing Nightcrawlers duds? His original costume was near perfect IMO. One of the best designs out there.
-MJB
Honestly I've seen that design before in the comics and it's not a bad one but it just makes him stand out too much and like you said, he's seen some really great costumes so no need to use a so-so one. I can only asume this will be an extra emo nightcrawler with lots of religious angst.
I've always loved the religious aspect of the character (it's what made him one of my favorites), but it was the peaceful reassurance of his faith, as evidenced in his TAS episode that really appealed to me.
His religious side has always been a plus in my book. It's what makes the character interesting. I just really prefer the original Cockrum costume, that's all.
-MJB
why are people getting so uppity about his hair? I admit i prefer the spiky hair, but calling it emo hair? Kurts an OG emo if you ask me. He's always surprised when people can stand his appearance, ever since he first met Kitty. he's a predeccesor of current goth and emo trends in fiction.
I have a feeling that they designed him with long hair in order to five him a darkened brooding look. it will give some shadow to his face, and in a bright cartoon, shadows need to come from somewhere, so it makes sense in his case.
Agreed. Get off the "emo" bandwagon.
:bandwagon
-MJB
if nightcrawler's gonna have long hair it should have curls, like he used to have, not be dead straight, the straightness makes it bad, and the dark rimmed eyes >_>
Actually I love his religious side too and it is a big appeal twards the character. What I mean is that he's going to be extra angsty and religion was always a big part of it, together with the fact that he's a mutant that cannot hide his mutation without high tech gadgetry.
Ya know, I must have missed out on the whole "finding Jesus" part of Kurt when I dropped out of comics. And to be honest, I think I prefer it that way. I *much* prefer him in his fun-loving, swashbuckling personality than being too serious & inrospective. And I prefer Cyclops to *not* have to use a finger trigger for his visor, instead using the mentally activated one that was developed by him, Prof X, & Jean. And I prefer Wolvie short. :P
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on September 30, 2007, 07:37:39 PMAnd I prefer Cyclops to *not* have to use a finger trigger for his visor, instead using the mentally activated one that was developed by him, Prof X, & Jean.
I must have missed the issue where he got a mentally activated visor. I always assumed that he was still using the remote triggers found in the palms of his gloves, sort of like the one that Spider-Man uses for his webshooters (except these remotely triggered his visors).
Well considering I don't bother reading the comics anymore unless I find a comic with a self contained story, then I am inclined to give this a shot. Besides, how about overlooking Wolverine's height for a moment and uh, I dunno, have him voiced by a Canadian for once? I realize its a stretch to (pardon the height pun) to expect his nationality to be defined by anything more than random stereotypes here and there. It will be interesting to see if there is any characterization, rather than walking power sets. Emma could be interesting if done right.
i'd like to see a cartoon based on the original team.back when they all had matching outfits and the beast wasnt covered in fur.i'm a marvel fan.always was and will be but marvel always seems to choke when it comes to animation.some of their stuff's been ok but none comes close to dc's justice league series.it seems like they always throw something in that kills it.example:the newest FF cartoon...why does the thing have a 4 painted on his chest?the one good thing about this new x-men series...the beast.one of my favorite characters.
Quote from: ips on October 01, 2007, 10:06:03 AM
the visual style of the animation will hinder them because of the detailed character designs. it will slow them down trying to produce the animation quickly. that's one of the reasons jlu etc have been successes. with the simpler animation style it is much easier to complete an episode.
I don't see how one could call those designs "detailed". It's a promo pic so it could have some more shading than the cartoon itself will have.
-MJB
Yeah it's definitely a evo-ish style, and I like the use of more current costumes. But Beast looks like a bit of a mess, but on the other hand thumbs up if Charles is walking in this series, I always prefer that to the chair.
I gotta' say, it weirds me out to see Charlie walking, all of my experiences with the X-Men have him in the chair. It doesn't bother me, per se, but I do thin it is weird.
The actual ART of Evo didn't really bother me (I like the TAS style better, but I can live with it), but I really didn't care much for the whole 'high school' nature of the series. Then again, it wasn't really aimed at me, I suppose. I don't think it would have really bothered me if they had done it with the original X-Men...it would have made sense to me, since they were that age when they started out.
Hope Wolvie actually cuts someone thats not a robot. Just a little scratch is all I ask.
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on September 29, 2007, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on September 28, 2007, 11:49:16 PMIn that picture.....is that Professor X....walking?
Looks like he's got some sort of leg braces on, possibly cybernetic. Worst of both worlds? ;)
According to the wiki, Forge is a confirmed character, so I guess it makes sense that he would make a mechanism for the Professor to walk.
Quote from: BentonGrey on October 01, 2007, 02:32:42 PM
I gotta' say, it weirds me out to see Charlie walking, all of my experiences with the X-Men have him in the chair. It doesn't bother me, per se, but I do thin it is weird.
Charlie has walked a few times in the past. That's why it sucks to be him. Some big event restores his ability to walk and a few weeks latter he gets clipped by a bike messenger and is paralyzed again. Dude has the worse luck, he's lost his ability to walk like 5 times. :P
Quote from: GrizzlyBearTalon on September 28, 2007, 10:14:08 PM
Tall Wolverine makes baby professor X cry! Please oh please just have Colossus as a main character and an ACTUAL X-man this time!
Still I don't know if I can bring myself to watch it, that title... is so stupid... it is incredibly truthful but still...
I don't see Star Wars Episodes 1 - 3 being renamed, Anakin the Whiny Wuss of the Dark Side and his Star Wars Friends Episode 1 - 3! Let us rename Star Trek as Capt. Kirk & Friends! OH what about Picard & Pals!
Think more close to home:
-Spider-Man
-The Incredible Hulk
-Superman
-[The] Batman
-Wonder Woman
and most importantly
-"Spider-Man and the Amazing Friends"
Most superheroe comics are named after either the hero or the team.
QuoteShe goes against the grain. Female superheroes are supposed to be these fantasy fulfillment characters instead of the cheerleader that picked on comic book nerds. Personally I think she's great, but then again I never liked Jean Gray.
If that's a reason it's only half the reason. A lot of people also hate Emma because she is both a rhymes-with-witch, but also because she doesn't follow the X-Men's code of ethics. Personally I think both the fact that Cyclops stays with her and that she's allowed to continue to be an X-Men is insulting. During Claremont's classic run of Uncanny Angel left the team in anger because of Wolverine being allowed to stay on the team, I loved that little touch.
But Emma is worse than Wolverine.
For those who care to see, a trailer is out (Thanks UE):
http://www.movieweb.com/tv/news/77/26277.php
Someone has it out for old chuck. The guy *dies* left and right. Maybe he's linked to the phoenix forces too. :rolleyes: But based on the trailer, looks nice and it makes some references to the comics. I'm unsure on some of the art though (rogue), but it might grow on me.
Wow... I'm actually impressed by the trailer. Definitly have some shades of the movies and Evolution mixed in with the old Fox Cartoon as well. Might actually have a chance put along side Spectacular Spider-Man and Fantastic Four for a Marvel Animation block on Saturday Morning or even a prime time slot on Cartoon Network.
I'm even amused that Kitty has a bit of Shadowcat/Sprite mixed together and that Iceman/Pyro have the teen prankster/angst roles rolls filled in. Plus with Xavier missing and Wolverine forming the new team then it makes more sense to call it "Wolverine And The X-Men" then just him highlighted over the team for marketing value. I did like having the Astonishing X-Men moment between Cyclops and Wolverine but something tells me that Jean and Xavier were probably saved by the Phoenix Force.
- CrimsonQuill
That looked really good. But didn't see see pics with a walking Xavier?
Wow, colour me impressed. The animation itself seems like your standard, slightly higher-quality Saturday morning stuff (on the level of say, the current Batman show, but nowhere near as fluid as Avatar: The Last Airbender or even Teen Titans). But it looks like they nailed the soap opera-meets-teen drama-meets superheroes appeal of the X-Men.
Well, this could be decent, it may even be good. There's no way it will be as good as the original, but it looks interesting. I hate some of the character designs (Mystique) but most of them are pretty good. I REALLY like the Angel being involved, and if he is actually on the team, I'd be able to overlook a great deal.
Ohh....and what the heck is up with Rogue's see-through hair? That's a bad design choice. Also, did it bother anyone else that Quicksilver, the hero, the man who was a morally conflicted member of the Brotherhood ONLY to pay the debt he felt he and his sister owed to Magneto, seems to be running the game with an evil enthusiasm?
If it's a mixture of several sources plus some new stuff, then the quicksilver thing might not be a big deal. Depends on how they play it out as quicksilver for most of xmen evo didn't have a problem being on the evil side. Also, current quicksilver isn't really a 'hero' anymore. I don't know how to classify him at this moment except as lost.
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 04, 2008, 06:55:33 PM
Also, did it bother anyone else that Quicksilver, the hero, the man who was a morally conflicted member of the Brotherhood ONLY to pay the debt he felt he and his sister owed to Magneto, seems to be running the game with an evil enthusiasm?
Not really, I'm used to evil/crazy Quicksilver these days. Plus this isn't the comics. It's a new universe and an opportunity to try some new things. Honestly seeing him seemingly in charge was one of the coolest things about the trailer to me. That and Angel (yay Angel!)
I was worried at first, but the trailer looks pretty nice. The name sucks, but it doesn't seem half bad. My favorite part was cyclops blasting wolvie. On a art note, Logan looks a bit weird were his side burns or whatever you want to call them jut out.
Quote from: Previsionary on February 04, 2008, 07:05:53 PM
If it's a mixture of several sources plus some new stuff, then the quicksilver thing might not be a big deal. Depends on how they play it out as quicksilver for most of xmen evo didn't have a problem being on the evil side. Also, current quicksilver isn't really a 'hero' anymore. I don't know how to classify him at this moment except as lost.
Ohh........it makes me very sad inside to hear this.
Seeing as they show Colossus for a split second, I will check it out. I also liked the brooding Cyclops. I like the idea of Quicksilver running things. Of course it will only be a matter of time until daddy shows up.
Interesting hearing some familiar voices from Evo in there. Animation looks pretty solid, and except for Rogue, the designs look good. (I was surprised not to see Nightcrawler in there even though he's pictured on the promo art) Title does make more sense in context. Color me curious.
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2007, 11:44:23 PM
Link to another pic: Clickster (http://news.toonzone.net/image.php?imageID=2242&___r=%2Farticle.php%3FID%3D16557)
This picture makes me furious! Wolverine is not supposed to be 15 feet tall! Why would Professor X create a device that would help him walk using all the ridiculously amazing technology? And worst of all, many of the characters have hair that is styled differently than the one single hairstyle every X-men had in every comic book they've ever been in!
You know, I haven't seen anyone in this thread react that way, so I fail to see what your point is.
I kinda like it. Except for the addition of other classic X-men villains (Blob, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Avalanche) they're taking a lot from the X-men movies and running with them.:cool:
It seems that the pre-release hype for the X-Men cartoon has hit a slight snag when the "teaser trailer" hit the internet...
Snipped from Newsarama.com:
QuoteRolling Stone reports that the Foo Fighters are suing Marvel Entertainment, First Serve International, Toonz Animation India and First Serve Toonz for copyright infringement:
The band alleges that Marvel used “substantial excerpts” of their songs “Best of You” and “Free Me” as the music for the trailer of the new animated series Wolverine and the X-Men. You can watch the trailer here, and it’s pretty obvious that the Foos are used to soundtrack the cartoon’s preview.
The trailer hit the ‘net back at the beginning of February and has since been pulled from YouTube.
E! Online has a few more details:
Per the lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, “substantial excerpts” of the tunes “Best of You” and “Free Me,” both off the 2005 album In Your Honor, were used in a teaser for the upcoming animated series Wolverine and the X-Men.
The song samples “were copied directly from the Foo Fighters’ sound recordings of those two songs” and people can watch the trailer online, the suit alleges.
The suit was also filed on behalf of Roswell Records Inc., owners of the master recordings.
Sure the teaser was probably more of an in-house promotional clip to reveal what the show was about in a typical "Big Hollywood" trailer style.. but this apparently has run them into a snag with the music industry because of using music without permission from the record company or the group itself. :blink:
- CrimsonQuill
yeah, thanks for keeping it real dave... he'll just take the money and go away hopefully.
Quote from: detourne_me on February 22, 2008, 04:32:01 AM
yeah, thanks for keeping it real dave... he'll just take the money and go away hopefully.
If you were arguably the greatest musician of all time and worked very hard, would you let people use your music without any permission?
Quoteyeah, thanks for keeping it real dave... he'll just take the money and go away hopefully.
Don't be dissin on Dave.
Dave is awsome.
And from a legal standpoint (talking to people I know who have been in similar type of situations) You have to go after all copyright violations or else it sets a legal precedent that can come back and hurt you later as people can claim ____ used your copyrighted work in the past without permission, and you did nothing to stop them, so why cant we? This doesn't mean that there aren't people out there that are greedy and sue happy, but a lot of these lawsuits are simply legal exercises to protect the copyright from future abuses.
*EDIT: And you have to believe me now, cause I just hit Hero Status with that post... :D
I don't know, what is the exact status of that trailer? It wasn't meant for public release, right? If that's so, then I don't see it as that big of a deal.
Thanks Benton. I thought it was just for marvel to pass around to corporate execs too, not for public release.
and believe me, I LOVE Dave Grohl, seen Foo Fighters a few times, I own a lot of his other stuff like Eagles of Death Metal and PROBOT too.
....damn IP laws
Marvel has removed the video both from the link by Prev & on Youtube.
Well luckily I saw it on Youtube before & eventough I dislike Wolvie being the star I am very happy to see a new X cartoon. I am on the fence with Rogue though. (Well her being my favourite and all I am a bit picky as you can imagine)
I did like Jean (the two seconds she was there) I hope I hope I hope to see a lot of Colossus and others and not just Wolvie all the time.
You know when I first saw the trailer I thought it looked different from most trailers. Plus I would have thought it would have debuted on Marvel's site. So I'm not surprised if this was a leaked clip.
i'm a beast/colossus fan so as long as theyre in it i'm happy.
Cyclops needs to lose the coat. Like, now.
Storm with headpiece thing = love.
minor update: it seems this and the new iron man cartoon will be on nick and not WB. That's kinda odd to me since, though Nick's changed a lot, they've never been big on hero shows...specially ones with complex stories and constant violence against humanoids/robots (excluding Avatar and that phantom show)...then again, it's on a network most kids probably don't have unless they have satellite or some such. Anyway, There you go...you can catch the most legendary X-man and the robot guy Tony on Nicktoons in 2009...yay?
Source (http://marvel.com/news/moviestories.2929.Iron_Man_%26_Wolverine_Toons_head_to_Nick)
Well, I will be watching X-men, but I will probably be avoiding the Iron man cartoon. Iron man was one of the first hero cartoons I ever say, and the pic in the source just sent it all to satan. But, I must say this is an odd move to put it on nick. It may have to do with the success of The Avatar, but they have to remember that avatar is more mythological, and he is a child, so they have more room to work with. Regardless though, I plan to give Wolvie and the X-men a shot at impressing me.
Okay, folks... we have been waiting for the official release of the "Wolverine And The X-Men" trailer for some time now.. especially after the leaked version caused such a ruckus with the music copyright mess and all.
So... pull up a chair and pop some popcorn... :popcorn2
Here we go... *plus get a pen & paper to count the cameo appearances*
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543564/bctid1539906042 (http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543564/bctid1539906042)
[spoiler]And just to be nice.. I'll show you my list: Polaris, Scarlet Witch, Gambit, Maverick, Dust, Cannonball, Shadow King, Sentinels, Wolfsbane, Magneto, Kitty Pryde, Emma Frost, Storm, Cyclops, Spiral, Mojo, the Beast, Angel, Iceman, the Brotherhood (Avalanche, Quicksilver, Blob), Mystique, Rogue, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Juggernaut, Domino, Random, The Reavers, Multiple Man, Pyro, Boom Boom (aka Meltdown), Senator Kelly, Vertigo, and even The Hulk as far I can tell thus far..[/spoiler]
Looks like it might really be a fun run after all.. :thumbup: .. and a worthy follow up to X-Men: Evolution...
- CrimsonQuill
I haven't read this whole thread, but this IS a continuation of Evolution??
The trailer leads me to think this is just a fairly decent X-Men toon. Which is awesome, that's like a fairly decent coffee ice cream, it's still amazing!
Quote from: BWPS on May 06, 2008, 03:18:02 PM
I haven't read this whole thread, but this IS a continuation of Evolution??
The trailer leads me to think this is just a fairly decent X-Men toon. Which is awesome, that's like a fairly decent coffee ice cream, it's still amazing!
No, it's a whole new show... but the opening scene to the trailer gives you the feeling of Evolution just a few years later when most of the students have now grown up...
Maybe X-Men Evolution is more familar to the audience that will watch this series thus they used similar designs and anime feel... but a lot elements from X-Men's 90s incarnation are present as well. My guess is they are taking the best of both series and making this show a fresh start.
- CrimsonQuill
Doooooooooommmmmmm!!!!!! Designs are bad, voices are bad, concept is bad!!!!
What? Someone was going to say it! Sheesh!!!
I think it's ok. I'm more than willing to give it a try....this is actually the route I always thought the X-Men would take if Prof-X wasn't around...Wolverine seemed like the most logical leader given all his training in military tactics and so on...and he's like really old so he should be wise...
some things aren't consistent in the cartoon, but it's a cartoon. I don't expect this to be as good as SpSM, but should be fun.
I'm intrigued. And I think it at least plays off of evolution continuity.
If it is associated with Evolution, even in the slightest possible way, I consider that a huge strike against it. That being said, the show DOES look interesting, so I will reserve judgment until I know more.
This show is looking awesome so far to me. I especially like the additions of Emma and Dust. Nice to add in some of the modern mythos.
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with X-Men Evolution except for slightly similar character designs.
nice trailer and im glad they're not pushing emma and cyclops together right away. I still have a problem with cyke's coat and rogue's see-through hair. :P
Why would it be a strike if it's even associated with x-men evo? If they're taking elements from every x-men franchise, then evo should be fine as well especially considering it had some great stories, nice animation, and gave us female wolverine clone: X-23. :D
But be rest assured it's a new continuity. Wolverine didn't seem to know mystique and cyclops didn't seem to know emma. They all met in the 90s and they know mystique well in evo. Senator Kelly was just a principal and later running for mayor in evo...so yeah.
note: it has a similar style to x-men evo because some members of its creative team are also working on this show.
Quote from: Previsionary on May 06, 2008, 09:23:32 PM
note: it has a similar style to x-men evo because some members of its creative team are also working on this show.
Yup! It has been rumored that X-23 would reappear along with some new students (I even noticed Squidboy in a Genosha scene) that might be familar with fans of the New Mutants/Academy X comics. But that is just from an animation grapevine...
- CrimsonQuill
Quote from: Previsionary on May 06, 2008, 09:23:32 PM
Why would it be a strike if it's even associated with x-men evo?
It would be a
huge mistake for
any new cartoon to continue after a series that ended 5 years ago.
The target demographic is probably 7 year olds to pre-teens. 7 year olds won't know anything about X-men Evo and I doubt that most pre-teens remember either. As fondly as people may think of a cartoon when they get past their pre-teen years, to be blunt, they are no longer the target audience in most cases.
-MJB
...i didnt even suggest that. I said why would it be a strike to even have associations with a past show if it's taking stuff from other continuity that is, to be blunt, way pass the demographic they're going for (something x-men evo also did when they were bringing in references to comic continuity that took place in early x-men history). If anything, it'd create a nostalgia factor for the people that watched that show.
New trailer is up:
http://marvel.com/news/moviestories.3874.Watch_the_New_Wolverine_and_the_X-Men_Trailer
Can't wait for this show!
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/080728-WolvXMentoon.html
Review of the new toon...and I hear reports that it's playing in some parts of the world as I've seen a review for episode 4...so, has anyone seen it on their tubes? I know it was suppose to air in the UK first, but apparently it has not. But I do hear it'll air in Canada next month, so...*shrugs*
EDIT:
It's also been said that Hulk vs Wolverine is a prequel to the show and it looks like it'll be brought up in the actual show pretty early on. Yay for continuity.
Quote from: Previsionary on August 30, 2008, 12:52:11 AM
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/080728-WolvXMentoon.html
Review of the new toon...and I hear reports that it's playing in some parts of the world as I've seen a review for episode 4...so, has anyone seen it on their tubes? I know it was suppose to air in the UK first, but apparently it has not. But I do hear it'll air in Canada next month, so...*shrugs*
EDIT:
It's also been said that Hulk vs Wolverine is a prequel to the show and it looks like it'll be brought up in the actual show pretty early on. Yay for continuity.
It's airing in Brazil or somewhere like that. It'll be on YTV next week for us Canadians. The UK airing is in limbo or something.
I believe it's episode 7 that has a Hulk/Wolverine rematch.
Well, Canadians, the show premiered (premiers?) today, so make sure to let us know how the show went off. Also, I found out Psylocke is in the show...but she seems to be following her X-men 3 role. BAH! :P
Quote from: Previsionary on September 06, 2008, 10:11:24 AM
Well, Canadians, the show premiered (premiers?) today, so make sure to let us know how the show went off. Also, I found out Psylocke is in the show...but she seems to be following her X-men 3 role. BAH! :P
Yeah it premieres today at 7pm est on YTV. I'll be watching.
I've heard plenty of spoilers and there are lots of cool guest stars in this show.
wonder when this will start in the uk
Ok watched the first ep:
[spoiler]Not actually going to go super spoilery here, I liked the episode. It's mostly a Wolverine story but you should be expecting that. Some really cool cameos. Wasn't really the most exciting episode but that wasn't the point. I really think this is going to be a great series. [/spoiler]
I think YTV should have shown all 3 parts. Though, the episodes work as one parters, the full premiere is 3 full episodes. They did it for JL, do it for X-men! :P
Anyway, I did happen to catch a few parts of the show offhand thanks to the tube of you (before they were taken down...and they were in Portuguese, so I actually got to use my not-oft used Spanish skills) and it looked interesting, though I'm mixed on the art. I think it could be a bit better and since this is the evo team, I expected a greater push in that arena since Evo had some good art during that time (just look at the Jean, Kitty, Tabitha, Rogue, and Amara dance scene). But, yeah, from what I saw and was able to make out, it looks good. Just have to wait until 09 and hope I maintain that channel to actually be able to watch it. -_-
Pod, what did you think of the voice cast? Were they all good/tolerable?
Quote from: Previsionary on September 06, 2008, 09:30:08 PM
Pod, what did you think of the voice cast? Were they all good/tolerable?
Well Wolverine is the same guy who's been doing all the recent games and I think he's pretty much prefect. Beast was good, reminded me of a mix of the Fox show and Grammer a bit. Rogue reminded me a bit of Anna Paquin, Beyond that none of the established characters were in it enough for me to really make a good judgement call, but nobody really bugged me.
[spoiler]Pyro threw me a bit because he looks more like the movie kid but had a heavy Australian voice. [/spoiler]
Saw it, thought the writing was solid. Not "Spectacular Spider-Man" good, but close (it's just one episode, so it will probably get better as the writers get more comfortable with the show). Of course I wasn't expecting anything less, considering that the episode was written by an animation vet like Greg Johnson (of Beast Wars and X-Men: Evolution fame) and co-produced by Chris Yost (New X-Men, X-Men: Evolution).
I think the character designs are solid if unspectacular, but the animation is a little on the rough side. Still, I'm just glad they didn't subcontract the animation to MoonScoop (the European studio which does the Fantastic Four "faux-nime").
My one gripe, and it's a pretty minor one, is with regards to the decision to use Wolverine and Beast almost exclusively in the first episode. I imagine a kid with no prior knowledge of the characters would assume that being a mutant means having sideburns and an odd hairstyle :lol:
Epi 1 in English is on tube of you now. I usually wouldn't advocate watching the toon online unless it was official streaming, but...2009 is a while away...and it's on an obscure channel :P
I thought this was a solid first episode. The 1 year ahead time jump was handled a little awkwardly, and it'll remain to be seen how this story resolves, since it's a multi-part story. The character designs are pretty good, though the motion of their animation could use a lot of work - it's far less fluid than that seen in Spectacular Spider-man. Voice work was solid all around - nobody stood out as annoying or shoddy.
And for a first episode, we got a lot of X-men characters as small parts or cameos - I counted Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Professor X, Dust, Boom Boom, & Pyro, in addition to Beast & Wolverine. It's weird for me to see a character as recent as Dust in animation, but I like it.
Quote from: Talavar on September 09, 2008, 12:38:51 PM
And for a first episode, we got a lot of X-men characters as small parts or cameos - I counted Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Professor X, Dust, Boom Boom, & Pyro, in addition to Beast & Wolverine. It's weird for me to see a character as recent as Dust in animation, but I like it.
IIRC, other characters who had cameos were New X-Men's Rockslide (or was it Caliban?) and Wolfsbane (I think). The Dust and Rockslide appearances probably have something to do with Chris Yost being a co-producer/series consultant on the show... he co-writes the
New X-Men comic which heavily features both characters. And slightly off-topic, isn't Dust and Rockslide character designer/comic book artist Nunzio DeFilippis a registered member of Freedom Reborn? I vaguely remember him posting on the skins and meshes threads a few years back (pre-board reformat).
I thought that one might have been Rockslide, but wasn't certain - his look, particularly his original look, which the character more resembled, isn't particularly distinctive, and we didn't get any character moments, which would probably be more telling.
Without spoiling things, this show will probably have several cameos as every episode I saw pics/vids of seems to have at least one. That's very similar to the 90s show, but marvel toons seem to thrive on cameos. This one more so than the others. It probably outranked Fan4 by episode 8. :P
Yeah that was Rockslide, and I'm pretty sure Wolfsbane. There are lots of cameos coming up in this show :D And Talavar Rockslide was in this current form in the show. His original form was basically a grey thing.
Yeah, Chris Yost is involved but Craig Kyle, co-writer of New X-Men and X-Force with Yost and I believe creator of X-23 (you know she'll show up ;) ), is involved in some capacity as well. Actually I think he's in a key position of Marvel Animation in general.
Zulu, Dust was created by Grant Morrison, but yes Nunzio DeFilippis created Rockslide (although Yost and Kyle are more responsible for popularizing him). Nunzio is a registered member, though he's only posted a few times.
I thought he basically was a grey Thing in this episode.
Pics to compare - current Comic Appearance:
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6908/newxmen31027as1.th.jpg) (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newxmen31027as1.jpg)
Wolverine & the X-men:
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5653/wolverineandthexmen01hioh7.th.jpg) (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineandthexmen01hioh7.jpg)
Quote from: Talavar on September 09, 2008, 09:47:20 PM
I thought he basically was a grey Thing in this episode.
Pics to compare - current Comic Appearance:
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6908/newxmen31027as1.th.jpg) (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newxmen31027as1.jpg)
Wolverine & the X-men:
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5653/wolverineandthexmen01hioh7.th.jpg) (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineandthexmen01hioh7.jpg)
Yeah I can see your point, they didn't really represent his current appearance all that well, but if you look at the face it is the current one. Actually there is an issue of New X-Men where he wears similar clothes as he did on the show. The major difference is how the neck is done, and the shoulders to an extent, and they didn't really exaggerate the features the way it is in the comics. I think maybe they were trying to get a bit of both looks.
I love Rockslide so I was happy to see him appear. He did look kind of blah though.
I finally saw the first episode and it wasn't bad. I'm not a big fan of the X-men like I was many moons ago, but this show was enjoyable. I like the fact that they had a Boomer (or boom boom) cameo. I will be keeping an eye out on this one.
Second episode was on tonight. I'm liking the series. Some of the take some getting used to.
[spoiler]Wolverine, Beast, Angel, Kitty, Iceman and Cyclops appear appear. Colossus is mentioned. The Brotherhood appears with Quicksilver, Blob, Toad, Domino, and Rogue. Senator Kelly and Warren Worthington II appear as well. [/spoiler]
Episode two was pretty good and I could enjoy it better since I didn't have to translate while watching. To all those people that fear that "Wolverine" would take up every plot, this episode would prove those worries incorrect. This is a Rogue/Bhood episode with Wolverine and the X-plot playing second fiddle. In fact, Wolverine appears less in this episode than Rogue, the Bhood, and probably Angel on their own. I call that...awesome. ^_^
Episode 3 is the one I'm waiting on just because I want to hear how Emma sounds. Will she have her New England, Boston accent, or will she be faux British? So many questions, one long week to wait. ^^
[spoiler]PS: Beast looks awesome, but I still dislike Rogue's hair. Get rid of the transparency, please!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/saywhat.jpg)
also, Pod forgot about avalanche. Shame on you, Pod. : - P[/spoiler]
Ya know I KNEW I was forgetting one of them.
Also I wish Beast was a cat.
I like the transparency. What I dislike is how they animate her. For some reason she can look really well done or kinda masculine. [spoiler]Was I the only one who thought it was ridiculous that Kitty had to be outside the helicopter to phase it? (Small gripe I know) Besides that it was a solid episode. I like how they are taking there time gathering the X-Men. Lesser writers would have had the entire team back together by now. Especially Cyclops. How Wolverine talked to Bobby's parents was a bit odd. I mean it just sounded like they were looking out for his safety and then he throws the 'he is a mutant deal with it' speal in their face as if that were the reason they said no. Oh wells. Beast still has the best character design in the show. Btw is it me or does Toad get a lot of representation in x-toons?[/spoiler]
Wolvie/Iceman
[spoiler]I think the mutant thing Wolverine was going on about was probably a throwback to the movie...or maybe it had to do with senator Kelly and Bobby's responsibility to mutant kind/the X-men[/spoiler]
Toad
[spoiler]I actually enjoy him getting representation because he was pretty absent before the Evo cartoon/X-men movie. The movie and the cartoons kind of made Toad a much better character in the comics...though he disappeared again.[/spoiler]
Brotherhood
[spoiler]I liked that they actually pulled off an effective and smart plan WITHOUT Mystique's or Magneto's involvement. The bumbling idiots routine was getting a bit old.[/spoiler]
Kat Pryde
[spoiler]I think that was just for her to be able to see when the plane would make contact better (and when it would be fully inside the building) or maybe to better channel her powers to cover the whole plane. I dunno...I'm just trying to rationalize it. :P[/spoiler]
Random info (future cameo so ignore if ya don't want to be...spoiled)
[spoiler]BLINK! Blink shows up! She hasn't been in a toon since the 90s. maybe she'll speak this time. I'm pretty excited for most of the cameos coming up. Some lesser known, some new, but I swear creators hate Havok.[/spoiler]
This is definitely shaping up to be a solid show - with this and Spectacular Spider-man, could Marvel finally be reversing the overall quality of their animation projects?
Quote from: Talavar on September 14, 2008, 11:59:41 PM
This is definitely shaping up to be a solid show - with this and Spectacular Spider-man, could Marvel finally be reversing the overall quality of their animation projects?
I think it's the same reason their latest films (arguably, in the case of Hulk, but still) have been much better... They're starting to run all of them under in-house studios rather then handing them over to networks and production companies who don't give a darn about the characters.
... ok, rant over for now.
As for the Wolverine-is-the-leader thing... I have to admit, I was among the "WTF?" crowd in terms of giving him separate billing and making him the leader... but having seen it, I'm intrigued. The idea of expanding the character into a role he's never really had to be in before, challenging Wolverine to evolve and expand himself is rather cool.
I like that they're addressing Wolverine's lack of perceived leadership abilities in-story. I really liked that touch.
Quote from: Talavar on September 15, 2008, 02:52:13 PM
I like that they're addressing Wolverine's lack of perceived leadership abilities in-story. I really liked that touch.
I do as well because people never give Wolvie credit there. The man has been alive for years and he "has" led teams before. I guess his loner status overrides his leadership abilities. :P
I wasn't big on the Wolvie top billing at first, but once details of the show started coming in it didn't matter to me at all. Actually Wolverine can be a cool character in a leadership type role, but not entirely certain thats where this show will be going ultimately.
Obviously Wolverine gets top billing largely for marketing reasons.
Saw the newest one today, I thought it was very good.
[spoiler]Warren pays to rebuild the mansion, with Forge frebuilding Cereba etc. Emma appears to offer her psychic powers to find Xavier. Xavier is in the Magneto ran Genosha. The X-Men sneak in, but are caught by Magneto but he lets them take the comatose Xavier. At the end of the episode the X-Men get a telepathic call from Xavier who has woken from his coma 20 years later to a future over run by Sentinels. He urges the X-Men to stay together under Wolverine's leadership, which sets up the series' premise.
Really liked Magneto's voice, design, power use, and setup in the episode. He's ruling Genosha and isn't a villain really. Voice actor is channeling Mckellen I think, which I like.
Was impressed with the power depiction of Iceman, Cyclops and Magneto.
Not huge on Cyclops voice, and there's something to Warren's face I don't like - he seems to look tired or something.
Emma was pretty good, she's doing the British voice, and she and Cyclops share some glances, but she shows up pretty conveniently.
The show interprets Forge as a younger character, and there's nothing wrong with that but I kinda wonder why?
[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I think with Forge, they were just building off his evo status. I've no major problems with it and I won't unless they start a "Sorge" (Storm/Forge) relationship down the line. They were never really clear on why they did the age skip-abouts in Evo either (as Storm was older in that series and because of it, had less screen time.)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Previsionary on September 20, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
[spoiler]I think with Forge, they were just building off his evo status. I've no major problems with it and I won't unless they start a "Sorge" (Storm/Forge) relationship down the line. They were never really clear on why they did the age skip-abouts in Evo either (as Storm was older in that series and because of it, had less screen time.)[/spoiler]
Well I seem to recall Forge was in very few episodes of X-Men Evo (I recall 2, there might have been more but I can't remember) so it was kinda a moot point. he wasn't really that similar to the comic version anyway. I found myself thinking that the version of Forge in this new show, visually, reminded me of Tom Green, which is probably not a good thing.
Anyway, I'll enjoying the show so far. I don't really like Iceman or Beast's costumes, and I'm not big on Rogue's visual design, but some of them I really like, like Wolverine, I think he looks (and sounds) great.
[spoiler]Magneto was pretty cool. They did a great job with his powers and really made you feel like he could take on all the X-Men there. It reminded me of the old Claremont X-Men comics with the All-New All-Different team, especially this one cover where Magneto had forced Wolverines claws to be pointed at his face, with a look of genuine panic on Logan's face. In the show, he had him point his claws at his teammates, which is actually a much better tactic considering Wolverine's metal bones and healing factor. I kinda felt like the whole thing was plotted around a fight scene with Magneto though. Once the X-Men mention Charles, Magneto is just like "Why didn't you say so?". Seemed a little bit silly but not necessarily bad or implausible IMO. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]i thought this was the best episode yet. like spider-man, it's getting better as the show goes on i think.
i really think the magneto fight was excellent, everyone's powers looked great, even the subtle things like coming out of the cloaked blackbird were cool. and the astonishing x-men corridor scene was good too.
about magneto calling off the fight so quickly, i bet he was just toying with them the whole time, knowing they came for charles.
i was surprised to see that the seasons storyline will be about preventing an imperfect future, i guess that echoes more of the current comic storyline (but of course they can insert a days of future past homage), i think they might be able to work cable in somehow, but i doubt it with jean missing.
i initially thought when the xavier apparition appeared that they would be introducing the shi'ar, and jean was spirited away to become the phoenix or something...
otherwise i really like the team lineup now, with warren becoming a bigger cast member, i'm looking forward to colossus' introduction, and seeing if there will be a peter-kitty-bobby love triangle/play for affections
[/spoiler]
Quote from: detourne_me on September 23, 2008, 08:13:44 PM
[spoiler]
i initially thought when the xavier apparition appeared that they would be introducing the shi'ar, and jean was spirited away to become the phoenix or something...
[/spoiler]
There are alot of rumors running amok since a few countries are up to the 8th episode by now.. and some of the production crew have spilled a few of the beans annonymously via forums here and there... as far as Jean is concerned...
[spoiler]Around the 19th or 20th episode there is a show called "Phoenix Host" or "Phoenix Rising" which has Cyclops dealing with horrible nightmares of what happened with Jean and during a mission against Juggernaut his powers start acting up and he starts doubting his leadership abilities under his current mental state. Emma offers to purge the painful memories of Jean from Scott but as she starts sorting thru his memories the events of the disaster at the mansion are slowly revealed. A powerful extraterestrial presence attacks the mansion and an image of a firey bird exploding thru everything and rising above the mansion.[/spoiler]
- CQ
Actually crimsonquill, one of the countries will be done the series by next week. They were blowing through them 4 times a week - to the dismay of writer Greg Johnson.
Quote from: Podmark on September 23, 2008, 10:00:52 PM
Actually crimsonquill, one of the countries will be done the series by next week. They were blowing through them 4 times a week - to the dismay of writer Greg Johnson.
Ill confirm this. Brazil is at episode 20 or so now.
[spoiler]During cyclops's angsty episode...well...you know...Sinister...so you can expect...yep.[/spoiler]
episode 4 has premiered on YTV. Any thoughts?
[spoiler]Yay for a Storm episode. Having already spoiled myself on a good deal of the season, I wasn't shocked by anything and the shadow king/storm connection is almost as played out as the Phoenix Saga.......I like how Wolverine's attitude has begun to reinsert itself because he was kind of tame in episode 1 and 2. Shadowking...I dont think I like his design here much at all. But anyway, I enjoy most episodes that show Storm as a powerhouse instead of the "I faint a lot" syndrome she, Susan, and Jean had in the 90s. That's one thing I can say about the latest toons, the women are shown as true powerhouses.[/spoiler]
anything yet about the hulk episode?are any episodes on u-tube?
I tried searching and couldnt find any there unfortunately :( I would like to see this show
you got 4 weeks to wait before the english version of the hulk episode is even available in Canada...
I don't really understand why the US has to wait for this show other than perhaps they're trying to release it with the new Wolverine movie. But that's a stupid reason.
It wouldnt matter when it cames out if it and Ironman are going to be on an obscure digital only channel...but by the time it comes out, most users will probably make the switch...so maybe they're accounting for that?
[spoiler]You might see A certain bone related mutant and you might witness some black costumes come into play. I expect Pod to know what I'm referring to. :P[/spoiler]
Yeah the US is waiting to release with the Wolverine movie to maximize ratings.
Saw the latest one.
[spoiler]I hate the Shadowking and I'm not a big Storm fan so this was a meh ep for me. Three great moments though; the Cyclops one, the Forge scene, and the Diamond form scene. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2008, 05:09:26 PM
[spoiler]You might see A certain bone related mutant and you might witness some black costumes come into play. I expect Pod to know what I'm referring to. :P[/spoiler]
Hmm not sure what you mean prev. Unless you're talking about:
[spoiler]X-Force??[/spoiler]
Quote from: Podmark on September 28, 2008, 09:02:28 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on September 28, 2008, 05:09:26 PM
[spoiler]You might see A certain bone related mutant and you might witness some black costumes come into play. I expect Pod to know what I'm referring to. :P[/spoiler]
Hmm not sure what you mean prev. Unless you're talking about:
[spoiler]X-Force??[/spoiler]
(*GASP*)
[spoiler]I'm not saying X-force...I'm just saying the costumes...[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Cause you know...that team wears black[/spoiler]
[spoiler]and they wear them for stealth missions, so maybe...[/spoiler]
[spoiler]you'll see them in the toon...[/spoiler]
[spoiler]look, if you click the next tag, you're only hurting yourself[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Do Not Click! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/blackstumes.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler]ooooo :thumbup:[/spoiler]
you can watch it at veoh.com just search for it
I thought this was kind of a meh episode myself - the only characters that do anything useful are Emma and Storm. It seems like a bad idea to give a team-based show a threat most of the characters can't even see, let alone combat.
Quote from: Talavar on September 29, 2008, 09:23:20 PM
I thought this was kind of a meh episode myself - the only characters that do anything useful are Emma and Storm. It seems like a bad idea to give a team-based show a threat most of the characters can't even see, let alone combat.
Yeah I pretty much agree. It's why I don't like the Shadow King as a villain.
I'd agree as well except it's more or less a focus episode so I didn't expect much. Just like you shouldn't expect team action when the other focus episodes come around. Besides that, it happens in the comics all so often. ^^
WatX #5- Thieves Gambit
Well, this came out yesterday. I have to say that the opening was like a homage to XML. It was pretty cool to see. Oh, all zero of you Gambit fans will be happy to know he shows up in this episode and he WILL appear again. As for his voice...I think it sounds pretty similar to the old 90s TAS version.
I think it was an ok episode, but it's a wolverine/gambit teamup and because I'm barely fond of either character, it sits at a mediocre mark for me. At least they didn't show Gambit as evil or good...just a thief that sides with money...kinda.
For another episode that most of the team sits out, this was better done than the previous episode. If you aren't going to have anything for your characters to do - don't bother including them.
Since I personally hate Gambit, this episode wasn't really up my ally, but it wasn't bad. One quibble though: while I know that Wolverine will never be able to just stab someone since this is a kids' show, it bugs me when characters in-show seem to know that as well. Twice in this episode Gambit basically ignores Wolverine's claws at his throat - he might as well have been threatening Gambit with wet noodles for all the good it did.
Cyclops completely disappeared from that episode. And one of the most irritating things with wolverine really come into it's own this episode-His constant unsheathing of his claws for "effect". It is completely absurd, often times you'll notice that he had just unsheathed it seconds earlier, he then does it again and again without even sheathing it first. :lol: No doubt the animation is brilliant in this though, but I wish they'd stop using "energy bullets" just for once... Wolverine's characterization also seems a little off doncha think? Seems to me like it's Scott and Logan rolled into one and even in Evolution he was more angsty. It's odd though, that they make him this nice guy and then make him do these out of character things(out of THIS character that is) like scratching the Blackbird to torture forge and seriously hurting the gateman unprovoked :huh: Those seemed totally uncalled for. Speaking of forge, why the heck is he building all these world-leading devices for the x-men while being treated like trash? I mean seriously he's not even really part of the team, he just works and works for them, what's his incentive, is he even paid? He even does the washing of the blackbird for god's sake! Kinda like Alfred but without any sense. It'd be interesting if he turns on the x-men however :thumbup:
WatX #6: X-Calbre
This is probably my favorite episode out of the English releases. I loved how effective and smart they made NC and how NC was able to encourage some of the other mutants in this episode. One of those mutants is Pixie, so that should make Poddy happy.
[spoiler]I wasn't even annoyed by the presence of Mojo and Spiral. I think they were used effectively in this episode. I especially liked the fight scene near the end.[/spoiler]
However, I do question the planning behind their episode lineup. Basically four focus episodes with very little actual X-team involvement. I think I would have, you know, actually have used the X-men (team) a bit more by now...but...I love NC and I liked the little touches of humor in this episode.
Yeah Nightcrawler was pretty awesome in this. Maybe a little too awesome. He beat everyone!
We seem to be in the fillerish introduce the characters part of the series, which I'm finding a mite blah. Once the plot starts moving I expect this series will really get good.
I enjoyed this episode a lot more than the last two, mainly because Gambit is lame and Nightcrawler is great, and the Storm episode really was kind of weak.
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Normally I hate Mojo and all things associated with Mojo, but this episode was good enough that it even overcame my Mojo-prejudice.
[/spoiler]
Interesting story plotting for a series. [spoiler]It is juggling three different "main plots at once" with no real rush to actually address any of em. I mean they set up the anti-mutant Trask/Kelly storyline, end of the world Prof X and whoever tried to off him storyline, and the "where in the world is Jean Gray". Now they have mojo, which may or may not be continued in the next ep. Who are they writing this series for?[/spoiler]
Spoiler tagged just in case.
MMk, I'm gonna address your spoiler generally, Ajax, so I don't hurt anyone who wants to stay spoiler free. They're building up several stories and actually setting up a lot of season two in the first season episodes (imo at least).
[spoiler]They'll get to Jean around episodes 10-12 with Cyclops and Emma heading that. That story continues until the finale and Emma plays a big part in that. Xavier and what he's doing in the future with some other X-characters will appear soonish. IIRC, it begins JUST after the Hulk/Wolverine episode. Senator Kelly and all that jazz is mentioned throughout the season and really comes to head by the end. Mojo and NC is addressed very soon as well. Not next episode, but soon enough. NC actually needs to land in genosha and setup shop first and, iirc, the X-men play a part in that episode (Mojo centric one). I think it's mid-season actually.[/spoiler]
It's like older comics that would build up stories throughout the year and then focus on them when the plot REALLY called for it. They're setting up a lot, but I assure you it all gets addressed and some of the plotlines even tie together. I'm just gonna warn you, don't expect every major plot point to be continuously addressed episode after episode. It's not going to really work that way until pretty much later in the season when everything begins to tie up.
ETA: Actually, in that aspect, it's similar to some of the 90s shows and even Evo that set up some pretty long term stories throughout each season, but didn't continuously address them until it was really needed. Using X-men TAS for example. Morph wasn't addressed again until season 2 and Beast was seen irregularly throughout season 1 of the show until his release. Pretty much the same deal, me thinks. Like most ensemble shows, which i classify this show as, it jumps around.
I'm really getting anxious for the main plot to get started in this series. I know every first season starts this way with a bunch of one shot episodes introducing the characters, but this is the third X-Men cartoon I've seen. I know all these guys so I'm kinda anxious for the meat of the series, and I know this show has it (thank you South America :rolleyes:)
[spoiler]So Hulk rematch episode was on tonight. Wolverine vs Hulk vs Wendigos (yes thats right plural). It's a full Wolverine solo ep which will annoy some but I'm ok with it. Wolverine is coerced by Fury to take out the Hulk for reasons I didn't totally catch. There's some kinda double cross going on, I think Shield created Wendigo and set up both Hulk and Wolverine to take it out when it got out of control. The episode's alright but nothing special either. I'm a bit annoyed that they went the 'evil' Shield route especially if it doesn't get picked up again. Still seeing the Hulk is kinda cool.
I do have one big complaint though. They messed up Fury. They went with the black Ultimate style Fury which I prefer but they didn't make him look like Sam Jackson. It's somekind of frightening combination of 616 Fury and Sam Jackson Fury. Ok thats annoying but ultimately acceptable, they have their own take on him, but the thing that really got me is that his eye patch was on the WRONG side! I was half expecting him to turn out to be the Chameleon. It shouldn't be a big deal but it drove me nuts all episode, it just looked so wrong.
Anyway that's the end of my little rant there. I'm hoping we get some team episodes soon. We've only had like 2 true team eps so far. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Previsionary on October 16, 2008, 10:34:01 PM
ETA: Actually, in that aspect, it's similar to some of the 90s shows and even Evo that set up some pretty long term stories throughout each season, but didn't continuously address them until it was really needed. Using X-men TAS for example. Morph wasn't addressed again until season 2 and Beast was seen irregularly throughout season 1 of the show until his release. Pretty much the same deal, me thinks. Like most ensemble shows, which i classify this show as, it jumps around.
You`ve sparked up a topic I`m actually quite passionate about, Pre. I`m actually a really big fan of that style of plotting. It`s probably because some of my favorite cartoons I grew up on were the 90`s Spider-Man, Gargoyles, and Reboot. I actually took for granted that kind of plotting and when I finally started watching Batman TAS for the first time, in syndication years ago it was over, I was a little dissappointed because I was used to these big myth arc plots that built up over the course of the series and would provide a big climatic season or series finale. I prefer the later JLU and X-Men Evo seasons for that very reason. I found X-Men Evo got good (`grew the beard, as it`s known in some circles) once Wanda was introduced and Magneto became more important to the plot instead of just a kind of background element to the show. When Apocalpse showed up and the show became about beating him, I found myself liking the show a lot more. Spectacular Spider-Man indulges in this kind of plotting a lot which is probably why I was so impressed by it when I first watched it.
All of the above shows, even Gargoyles, with the arguable exception of Spectacular Spidey, started out with a first season that was mostly stand alone stories meant to get the viewer used to the characters. If you miss some episodes you won`t be lost, that sort of thing. But as the show would go on, and they`d round the second and third season, they`d use many of the ideas introduced in these early one-shot episodes for a bigger arc. A great example is the Cadmus arc in JLU. It looks like this show is kinda half-doing that. I very much expect the plots will be much more connected in the later seasons (Pre might know the answer to that already ;) ), especially since some of the guy who did X-Men Evo do this show as well.
Hah! 'Grown the beard,' I love it. I haven't heard that one in a while.
X-men Evolution definitely improved as it went along - it had a quite weak first season, in my opinion, but picked up the longer it was on the air. I don't think it ever became a great show though - it was hampered by design choices from early on, and some forced humour.
So Wolvie & the X-men did air on YTV on the weekend though? Something must have screwed up with my PVR. Darn.
Dunno, I haven't seen many people talk about it. It's gotten mixed reactions from what I have seen and, Talavar, I think you'll be annoyed with Wolvie and his claws in this partic. episode. :P
What's the deal with the latest episode? I cannot find it anywhere :angry:
I watched it on Saturday on YTV, so it was definitely on. If it haven't been showing up on any sites, I don't know what to tell you.
Quote from: threshold on October 19, 2008, 06:56:00 PM
What's the deal with the latest episode? I cannot find it anywhere :angry:
The "Wolverine Vs Hulk" episode should be available for download today because my source had a torrent posted in his journal around 3 AM last night (EST).
- CQ
Most of them have had copyright infringement policies enforced upon
Finally found it. I still do not understand why they don't air it in the states.
again, it'll air in January 09. They're probably waiting on the movie or some other reason (editing, open time slot, etc) before they begin to show it. And, by then, more people will probably have the means to watch said channel since it's on a obscure channel to begin with.
Yes it's all about the Wolverine movie. Networks are annoying.
Saw the most recent episode finally through ... other channels, and Prev, you're right: that annoyed me to no end.
[spoiler]
Why is it all right to show Wolverine put a bomb in Hulk's friggin' mouth, but not slash him even once? You show shallow scratch marks that then heal up - is that so difficult? I'm not asking for gore or dismemberments or anything, just to make Wolverine look like he doesn't suck at fighting everything but robots! Plus he snikts his claws out about 47 times, most of them completely unnecessary. I hope the direct to video fight is a lot better than this one, is all I can say.
Other comments: This version of Nick Fury just looked weird - he was like the love child of 616 Nick Fury and Ultimate Nick Fury. The mixed up eye patch didn't get to me, but he was weird. I would have preferred him to just look like Samuel Jackson as well, but maybe then they'd have to pay him likeness rights?
[/spoiler]
This episode brought up a line of thinking for me, one I've had before, but bare with me. Shield in this knows all about mutants and apparently employs some from time to time, but they stay out of the "politics" of things like the Sentinel program or mutant registration. Fine, I assume a similar deal is true in the comics. But what about other heroes? This version of the X-men coexist with at least the Hulk, and maybe we'll see more crossover characters in later episodes or seasons. What is the justification in the comics though? Why don't we ever see Iron Man protect helpless mutants from sentinels, or the opposite, speak out in favour of mutant registration? It just seems like, when it comes to the government going after mutants, the rest of the Marvel superhero population sits on the sidelines whistling and twiddling their thumbs.
Ive just started catching up with this show and without going into the spoilers, the above mentioned Annoyance regarding claws for the last episode was driving my bonkers....
I say we start a petition for clipping the things off :)
that was kinda one of my gripes about the x-men.way back when the heroes disappeared back in heroes reborn the city was left wide open to crime/villians and only a handful of heroes remained to hold down the fort.where were the x-men?sitting at the mansion waiting for a mutant only menace.its all about the writers i know but i got tired of mutant only stories.
No review yet?
Well, to Ajax, you got your Xavier episode and, iirc, this was also a team episode featuring Psylocke and the Bhood. Let your opinions pour and filleth the threadeth!
Quote from: Previsionary on October 26, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
No review yet?
Well, to Ajax, you got your Xavier episode and, iirc, this was also a team episode featuring Psylocke and the Bhood. Let your opinions pour and filleth the threadeth!
wha? It didn't air last night, or did it?
did it not? I just checked around and it seems YTV aired a halloween special, no? ...my bad? :unsure:
Quote from: Previsionary on October 26, 2008, 12:57:31 PM
did it not? I just checked around and it seems YTV aired a halloween special, no? ...my bad? :unsure:
Yeah Flintstones special. I got over my disappointment by renting Indie 4.
Ok, it actually played this week and yet still no reviews? No, but yeah, but no, but yeah, but I is so disappointed. :P
ETA:
This isn't the Xavier episode like I originally thought (though it is next episode and I'm pretty sure I know why I remembered this as an Charlie eppy). It's basically the core team of X-men on a mission.
[spoiler]I thought it was okish. It's nice to get a team episode and including a character like Nitro is pretty interesting. Emma vs. Psylocke wasn't as good as I wanted it to be because they made Psylocke an amateur telepath, so I hope she's stronger by her next appearance. It was also nice to see Rogue and the Bhood again because they've been absent for a bit. That and I happen to like Domino and Rogue (sometimes).[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I thought it was alright. Use of Nitro was different, kinda odd take on a guy who caused the Civil War. Mostly a Brotherhood ep, X-Men didn't do all that much.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]All I have to say that hasn't already been said is this show's version of Toad is annoying. That's probably what they were going for though.[/spoiler]
Toad typically is annoying in all incarnations. Only the movie seemed to ignore his annoying trait.
WaTX #9- Future X
A few days late, but it looks like I'll have to keep this periodically updated like I do with the X-thread. Fun in a can.
This episode is the one Ajax wanted. It focuses on the future with Prof X and we finally figure out just exactly how long he was knocked out for in this timeline. Senator Kelly, Trask, and the sentinal plan is also mentioned again. Wolverine and the actual X-men make up the subplot (minimal appearances), but it's mainly used to tie into the mainplot while addressing the Gambit/Wolverine teamup. Since the main plot takes place in the future, you can expect a lot of guest stars and a major appearance by Bishop for the rest of the season. The collar plot from a few episodes ago is also brought up; so, those that were worried about the plots not connecting, you can find something new to complain about. :P
[spoiler]The future X-men (so far) are as follows:
Bishop
Domino
Marrow
Xavier
Vanisher
Karmal
Hellion
Bezerker (he'll also appear in the present)[/spoiler]
It's a pretty action heavy episode that also moves the plot along. It actually ties a lot of the early episodes together while also providing new details for both the present and future tense storylines. Only thing I didn't like was pretty much the lack of X-men time since they haven't had a real strong team episode for them yet. If I were to use the comic scale, I'd sit it somewhere between 3 and 4...so...a 3.5? Maybe. :unsure:
This was probably my favorite episode so far. It gets to the meat of the plot, has some great action bits, and lots of cameos. Bishop and Hellion were awesome.
I really enjoyed this episode too, even if the present X-men storyline felt somewhat tagged on.
[spoiler]
Who was the female firey mutant? Firestar maybe? I didn't catch a name. Also, was the male mutant with the Absorbing Man-esque power a cameo, because I don't think I'm familiar with that one.
I'm also curious about what happened to Wolverine in the future. He could just be dead I suppose, but the whole captured and never seen again sounds ... ominous.
[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Kamal if you're talking about the guy I think you are. He metaled up, right? He's an old villain. An acolyte actually. No word on fire girl as I didn't immediately recognize her on my first viewing (awhile ago) or this time.[/spoiler]
Just watched the one with Psylocke in it. Comparitively, a really good episode I must say. Pietro is just brilliant in this, and there's a nice little tidbit about him seeking his dad's aproval. Not too wolverine centric, no repeated unsheathings, and he nearly stabs someone! Ditching the whole "possessed ninja" thing and having Betsy as just some Oriental Brit works out pretty grand too.
Some gripes: Um, if suspending Nitro a few feet in the air saved them, how was he to "destroy the whole of genosha"?
Kitty jumping in and out of moving planes without a chute seemed pretty mental, and she and nitro landed from quite a distance, ouch. But really, it's still much less ridiculous than something like the appalling Transporter movies and hey, it's a kid's toon.
Best episode so far? Btw, where's Kurt? I didn't catch the previous episodes.
Today ep was pretty good. It's pretty clear they're getting to more of the plot based episodes.
It's funny though, most of the eps don't seem to actually have the X-Men as a group doing that much.
WaTX 10- Welcome to Genosha
This is a continuation of Nightcrawler's storyline from a few episodes back. He and the other refugees finally reach Genosha and that storyline will continue on until the end of the season. Scarlet Witch plays a pretty prominent part and there's tons of guest stars and Magneto doesn't come off as "completely" evil. Still, NC investigates him to see what's up. The subplot takes place in the mansion. The X-men are invaded by an old friend and confusion ensues.
My favorite thing about this show is the constant showing off of other X-characters. In this episode, we actually got to see long haired Dazzler. Sure, she appeared in the 90s as well, but she displayed her showmanship with her powers a bit better in this episode. Also, the SW/NC connection is nice only because it means Nocturne could appear one day. :P
As a side note...Wolverine meets a lot of walls and the fight/action sequences were pretty good. NC seems to have the better episodes of the series...so far.
Also, talavar, you asked about the fire girl. I think i read somewhere that it was Firestar.
Well, Firestar would make sense - as established mutants go, there's only Magma and Firestar that I can think of with fire powers, and Magma can't fly.
I really enjoyed this week's episode, Welcome to Genosha. Nightcrawler rocks, and the cameo count keeps going up. I spotted Dazzler, Pyro, Scarlett Witch, Dust, and Mercury, and couldn't place the guy with the energy whip, or the reptilian-ish thug.
The whip guy was Senyaka, one of the Acolytes in the comics.
X-men #11- Past Discretions
[spoiler]This episode opens with a pretty graphic memory from Wolverine's past. It cuts off just before Wolverine can get all of it and Xavier persuades him to leave it be until he's ready to deal with it. As the current leader of the X-men, he can't be getting sidetracked. Wolverine, not a man to go against his guts, asks Emma to help him decipher the memory instead.
Meanwhile, Rogue is feeling guilty for being with the brotherhood and Quicksilver suspects he can't fully trust her. He speeds off into a room and speaks to Magneto. He'll do whatever Mags wants...if he can return to Genosha.
Back with the X-men, Kitty, Beast, and Bobby are organizing the X-library. Logan enters and the team immediately jumps into research mode to find the Twin Peaks. Logan rides off to see what's up unaware that he's being monitored. This leads to the first appearance of...Sabretooth!
Going back to Wolverine, we find out that the Twin Peaks is where part of the flashback he had earlier in the cold opening occured. As more memories come flashing back to him, he decides to get a closer look at the house that had a prominent part in his memory. As he arrives, the a girl with teke powers appears behind him. She remembers Logan and instantly attacks him. She wants revenge and overpowers Logan.
Inside of the cabin, the girl tries to get Wolverine to explain why he "took" her father. Logan doesn't remember and before an understanding can be reached, the girl is tranquilized. Sabretooth enters the room and sparks more of Wolverine's memories as he mentions, Weapon X. Obligatory Fight scene mixed in with flashbacks. It's revealed that Sabretooth killed the girl's father.
The episode ends with Logan returning home and learning Rogue had been to the mansion and Sabretooth informing his boss that Logan loss his memories. The man Wolverine thought he had killed was revealed to be Maverick who is part of the Weapon X program.[/spoiler]
I thought this episode was okish. It pushed forward a few other plots while dealing with the obligatory, "Wolverine has memory issues," problem. I'm trying to recall if the man in Wolverine's flashback actually has a daughter in the actual comics. He may have, but I don't think it ever got named. Anyway, twas a good "Wolverine" episode and next episode will be a "Cyclops" one. Get ready for the push of two more storylines. Oh, oddly enough, Storm seems to have a trait here that she also has in Uncanny X-men...never being around unless there's a fighting scene. :P
Yeah it was ok. I enjoyed it, but it's a little forgettable.
I finally got caught up on this show and it's an ok show. I'm surprised it isn't as good as I thought it would be.
I found myself enjoying the episode. It didn't have a lot going on, it was a Wolverine episode, and it was the same kind of thing we've seen before in the cartoons, movies and comics, but I still didn't mind it. I can understand why they'd want to introduce Sabretooth, but he has been in the previous cartoons so I didn't find it that exciting (not really a big fan of the character).
Ep 12 was on tonight:
[spoiler]This was the Cyclops episode where he takes on everyone and keeps on kicking. It was pretty awesome. Scott thinks Sinister has Jean and hunts down the Marauders to find Sinister. Finally Cyclops is worn down by an evil Madrox and needs to be saved by the X-Men but it was still very cool. Sinister didn't have Jean.
But why was Archlight a dude??[/spoiler]
Quote from: Podmark on November 30, 2008, 12:19:39 AM
Ep 12 was on tonight:
[spoiler]This was the Cyclops episode where he takes on everyone and keeps on kicking. It was pretty awesome. Scott thinks Sinister has Jean and hunts down the Marauders to find Sinister. Finally Cyclops is worn down by an evil Madrox and needs to be saved by the X-Men but it was still very cool. Sinister didn't have Jean.
But why was Archlight a dude??[/spoiler]
Thanks for the episode summary Pod. Missed it and don't feel like sifting through the internet for a re-broadcast. While I've been impressed by the show's writing and adaptation of long-standing X-Men themes given the limitations of what they can and can't do (the show has to pass Canadian TV's C8 rating, after all), the poor technical animation and (and more importantly) direction have all but turned me off the show.
Probably because the character in question was also a male in the AOA timeline. The show does seem to mix a lot of things together...reference wise.
So I've been trying to find out if YTV aired Wolverine and the X-Men this past weekend, and this is what I've been able to find: YTV's website still lists the show, but says that no episodes are currently scheduled, while Wikipedia said: "NOTE: From here onwards Wolverine and the X-Men will be aired by Teletoon, who have acquired exclusive distribution rights for Marvel shows in Canada. New episodes will begin in January 2009, unless Teletoon decides to air the series in the beginning, in which case there will be a further 3 month delay." That note comes after the episode description for Excessive Force, the previous episode.
I imagine Teletoon will probably start airing the episodes from the beginning again (it would be weird for a new network not to), so colour me annoyed.
Well YTV didn't air Wolverine and the X-Men because of a Christmas special last week, and all of their Saturday night programming is being replaced with Christmas specials this week.
Hadn't heard about the Teletoon thing so we'll have to see. But yeah I'd imagine they'd begin from the beginning.
have they shown the hulk episode yet?if so...what happens?has juggernaut made an appearance yet?
Quote from: herodad1 on December 11, 2008, 12:39:05 PM
have they shown the hulk episode yet?if so...what happens?has juggernaut made an appearance yet?
They showed it in Canada three weeks ago IIRC, and a few weeks before that in Europe(?)/South America(?). I think somebody posted an episode summary in this thread.
[spoiler]Hulk beat the crap out of Wolverine and then out of Nick Fury. The end.[/spoiler]