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Title: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on July 28, 2008, 09:10:55 AM
Leaked Comicon Wolverine Trailer:
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/xmen-origins-wolverine/leaked-comic-con-footage

I was apprehensive, and I realize that you can make anything look good in a trailer (especially a crappy camcorder one).... but I'm pretty stoked now. It looks like it could be way more entertaining than I was expecting.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: JeyNyce on July 28, 2008, 09:32:51 AM
I have my doubts, but so far the trailer looks good.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: lgmss on July 28, 2008, 09:38:29 AM
I wonder if they will make Wolverine American? While it won't be that big of a deal I like my superhero movies to be true to the characters.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on July 28, 2008, 10:18:11 AM
I'm looking forward to this movie. But from the trailer doesn't look like they've done much to Ryan Reynolds to make him look like Deadpool.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BWPS on July 28, 2008, 12:02:12 PM
Quote from: Podmark on July 28, 2008, 10:18:11 AM
I'm looking forward to this movie. But from the trailer doesn't look like they've done much to Ryan Reynolds to make him look like Deadpool.

I must have missed this, I didn't see him in the trailer at all.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 12:17:38 PM
I curious to know who the other characters were supposed to be.  Was that supposed to be Sabretooth in the cell with him?  And all I could pick up from that other group was maybe Blob, and Deadpool....sort of.

Quote from: Podmark on July 28, 2008, 10:18:11 AM
I'm looking forward to this movie. But from the trailer doesn't look like they've done much to Ryan Reynolds to make him look like Deadpool.

He was in red.  And had swords.  What, you mean that isn't enough?   :lol:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on July 28, 2008, 12:26:19 PM
There was obviously Gambit with the playing cards...
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on July 28, 2008, 12:26:19 PM
There was obviously Gambit with the playing cards...

I didn't see any cards (even on a close re-watch).  I saw a guy in a tie twirling what looked to be a gun....that's about as close as I saw.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: ow_tiobe_sb on July 28, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
I didn't see any cards (even on a close re-watch).  I saw a guy in a tie twirling what looked to be a gun....that's about as close as I saw.

They were there, P_G, along with Doc Manhattan's manhood...

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: ow_tiobe_sb on July 28, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
I didn't see any cards (even on a close re-watch).  I saw a guy in a tie twirling what looked to be a gun....that's about as close as I saw.

They were there, P_G, along with Doc Manhattan's manhood...

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning

ewwwww  :blink:  no wonder he throws those things away so fast!   :lol:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: ow_tiobe_sb on July 28, 2008, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: ow_tiobe_sb on July 28, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
I didn't see any cards (even on a close re-watch).  I saw a guy in a tie twirling what looked to be a gun....that's about as close as I saw.

They were there, P_G, along with Doc Manhattan's manhood...

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning

ewwwww  :blink:  no wonder he throws those things away so fast!   :lol:

No wonder they explode! ;)

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: ow_tiobe_sb on July 28, 2008, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: ow_tiobe_sb on July 28, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 28, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
I didn't see any cards (even on a close re-watch).  I saw a guy in a tie twirling what looked to be a gun....that's about as close as I saw.

They were there, P_G, along with Doc Manhattan's manhood...

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning

ewwwww  :blink:  no wonder he throws those things away so fast!   :lol:

No wonder they explode! ;)

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning

Cosmic Powered syphilis  :blink:.......the only thing other than Reed Richards that scares Galactus!  :P
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Figure Fan on July 28, 2008, 04:56:36 PM
LMFAO @ you two!

Anyway, yeah..

Ick. Full of ick. And uckk. Maybe even an eek.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Dr.Volt on July 28, 2008, 05:16:20 PM
Bummer...looks like it has been removed... :(  Maybe it'll be on You Tube.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on July 28, 2008, 08:52:00 PM
Yes the cards were there, and he had his trademark trench coast and staff.  I couldn't see this link, though, and I had to look up another on youtube.  The audience reacted very strongly to his appearance.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on July 28, 2008, 08:58:19 PM
I didn't realize there was a part 2 to the trailer. Gambit looked pretty cool. 
I'm very happy they decided to include characters like Gambit and Deadpool in it. Makes it more interesting to me.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: RTTingle on July 29, 2008, 06:00:29 AM
Here ya' go...

...stumbled upon a copy that hasn't been yanked... yet.  You can find part 1 here. (http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c313/DarkEther/?action=view&current=Comicon098.flv)  Part 2 here. (http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c313/DarkEther/?action=view&current=Comicon099.flv)

Looks like a huge mish-mash to me.  An enjoyable mish-mash though.

RTT
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on July 29, 2008, 06:31:18 AM
It looks pretty cool.........but I had better see something that better resembles costumes than a red t-shirt for Deadpool!  Gambit being in has me more excited than I would be otherwise.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: the_ultimate_evil on July 29, 2008, 08:11:24 AM
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994%3ABlogPost%3A438630

full thing combined
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on July 29, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
I'd say it looks good enough. But nowhere near the quality of the X-Men movies. This looks like a quality spin-off movie and good popcorn flick, but I also can't shake the feeling that it will probably also be fairly forgettable in the scheme of things. I don't know, I just get that vibe...
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Ares_God_of_War on July 29, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
I think thats because Liev Schrieber is in it. Why didnt they bring back Tyler Mane? My only assumption is maybe too much of a speaking role.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BWPS on July 29, 2008, 10:40:36 PM
Looks awesome to me, I'm really liking Gambit. They didn't change his name so I can assume he's still Cajun, at least kind of.

Ryan Reynolds is a good choice for deadpool. I don't guess they'll need to put him in his costume but I hope they show his face mess up!
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: cripp12 on August 01, 2008, 06:13:57 AM
I didn't hear anyone say mystique was in it.  ;)
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: billdamn22 on August 01, 2008, 08:12:24 AM
Ryan Reynolds in a red shirt does not make him Deadpool to me. I am very disappointed with that. Gambit looks well done, though. My question is where is Alpha Flight? Isn't this supposed to be a Wolverine origin movie? Gimme freakin' Alpha Flight..... :angry:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on August 01, 2008, 03:37:49 PM
QuoteBut nowhere near the quality of the X-Men movies.

This camcorder footage was better than X-Men 3....
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Ajax on August 01, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: billdamn22 on August 01, 2008, 08:12:24 AM
Ryan Reynolds in a red shirt does not make him Deadpool to me. I am very disappointed with that.

I may be wrong given the way trailers are made these days, but the context makes me think it's Deadpool pre-healing factor. So I hold out hope they will do it correctly.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: MJB on August 01, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
Meh, I gotta agree with Googles. This trailer looks better than X3 and I actually liked X3 a bit. *ducks*

-MJB
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on August 02, 2008, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: MJB on August 01, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
Meh, I gotta agree with Googles. This trailer looks better than X3 and I actually liked X3 a bit. *ducks*

-MJB

You're not alone. I actually enjoyed X3, although not as much as the first two. I think that movie gets WAY too much flack, and it's really not a bad movie.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Talavar on August 02, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
Quote from: TheMarvell on August 02, 2008, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: MJB on August 01, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
Meh, I gotta agree with Googles. This trailer looks better than X3 and I actually liked X3 a bit. *ducks*

-MJB

You're not alone. I actually enjoyed X3, although not as much as the first two. I think that movie gets WAY too much flack, and it's really not a bad movie.

No, it's a pretty bad movie.  It's not the worse movie ever, or anything crazy like that, but it ain't good.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on August 02, 2008, 08:48:01 PM
I enjoyed X3...until the huge plotholes were pointed out to me. Didn't really think about them when I first watched it, and my expectations had been very low.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on August 03, 2008, 10:20:33 AM
Quote from: Talavar on August 02, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
Quote from: TheMarvell on August 02, 2008, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: MJB on August 01, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
Meh, I gotta agree with Googles. This trailer looks better than X3 and I actually liked X3 a bit. *ducks*

-MJB

You're not alone. I actually enjoyed X3, although not as much as the first two. I think that movie gets WAY too much flack, and it's really not a bad movie.

No, it's a pretty bad movie.  It's not the worse movie ever, or anything crazy like that, but it ain't good.

I respectfully disagree. Like I said, the movie gets way more flak than it deserves. It's not great, but it's far from bad.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on August 03, 2008, 12:03:48 PM
Quote from: TheMarvell on August 03, 2008, 10:20:33 AM
Quote from: Talavar on August 02, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
Quote from: TheMarvell on August 02, 2008, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: MJB on August 01, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
Meh, I gotta agree with Googles. This trailer looks better than X3 and I actually liked X3 a bit. *ducks*

-MJB

You're not alone. I actually enjoyed X3, although not as much as the first two. I think that movie gets WAY too much flack, and it's really not a bad movie.

No, it's a pretty bad movie.  It's not the worse movie ever, or anything crazy like that, but it ain't good.

I respectfully disagree. Like I said, the movie gets way more flak than it deserves. It's not great, but it's far from bad.

I agree with you, sir marvell. It's an average action movie. If it weren't under the X-men moniker and didn't follow X-2, it probably wouldnt get flak over and over and over and over "years" after its release and fade into obscurity. :P Alas, these things must be expected with a good deal of brett ratner's movies. The same flak better appear when ratner directs "god of war" and "rush hour IV" or I will be disappointed in society!

assuming the movies are bad
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on August 03, 2008, 02:32:28 PM
he deserves the flak for Rush Hour 3. That movie stunk, and this is coming from someone who liked the first two.
Title: Wolverine Leaked Trailer!!!
Post by: style on October 22, 2008, 03:25:30 PM
Catch it while you still can! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

http://www.flylyf.com/x-men-origins-wolvering/ (http://www.flylyf.com/x-men-origins-wolvering/)
Title: Re: Wolverine Leaked Trailer!!!
Post by: djfredski on October 22, 2008, 03:35:14 PM
it's seen like it going to be a good movie. :thumbup: :thumbup: :D
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: MJB on October 22, 2008, 08:09:06 PM
We already had a subject on this so I merged it for you, Style. :thumbup:

-MJB
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: thalaw2 on October 22, 2008, 09:35:54 PM
May!!!!  Seems too long away.  Was that Deadpool in one of those trailers?
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: thanoson on October 22, 2008, 10:47:56 PM
Yes. Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: MJB on October 22, 2008, 11:58:38 PM
Which could turn out to be brilliant casting or...

-MJB
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: style on October 23, 2008, 07:12:49 AM
Quote from: MJB on October 22, 2008, 08:09:06 PM
We already had a subject on this so I merged it for you, Style. :thumbup:

-MJB
Thanks M Im so behind on things! :(
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on November 30, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
here's a new article and picture of Gambit from superherohype:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=7849
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on November 30, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: billdamn22 on August 01, 2008, 08:12:24 AM
Ryan Reynolds in a red shirt does not make him Deadpool to me. I am very disappointed with that. Gambit looks well done, though. My question is where is Alpha Flight? Isn't this supposed to be a Wolverine origin movie? Gimme freakin' Alpha Flight..... :angry:

[spoiler]Bill, 

One of the Wolverine film's filming locations has been named the "Hudson" farm, so this film may have some Alpha Flight ties in it (if no Alpha itself)...Perhaps in the form of cameos of Mac and Heather Hudson?  At least it would be something for Alpha Flight fans (I count myself as one too).[/spoiler]
Title: Wolverine Trailer
Post by: AncientSpirit on December 13, 2008, 09:03:33 AM
Saw the trailer at The Day the Earth Stood Still.

No one has mentioned this yet, but was that The Blob in the boxing ring?   Sure looked like it to me.

I think this movie is going to rock.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: MJB on December 13, 2008, 10:18:44 AM
Pretty sure the Blob is supposed to be in the movie.

-MJB
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on December 14, 2008, 08:21:31 AM
Yes...I've read that it's the Blob.  That pic of movie Gambit is a bit disappointing...He looks nothing like the comic character.

Dana
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: darkknight92 on December 15, 2008, 12:10:46 PM
Decent quality trailer:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/12/15/first-x-men-origins-wolverine-trailer-what-do-you-think/
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BWPS on December 15, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
I'll take two!
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 15, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
I think it looks like it has potential to be entertaining (Even gambit in action looks a lot better than the stills would lead you to believe)

That said... there is an undercurrent of X3 vibe going on that I find disconcerting.
And is it a rule that any Marvel "X" movie has to include like EVERY mutant who has ever been in the comics?
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: thanoson on December 15, 2008, 02:21:41 PM
Geeze, I feel myself turning into a fanboy.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Zippo on December 15, 2008, 02:41:00 PM
Deadpool is still looking... terrible... I'm hoping so much that that's him pre-weapon X, and maybe he gets maimed by wolvie or something, which results in his experimentation and insanity. It's probably far too much to ask for for a secondary character though.

I don't mind them throwing in tons of cameo mutants. In fact I enjoy it, so long as they don't butcher them, which there seems to be a trend of. 
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: crimsonquill on December 15, 2008, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: Zippo on December 15, 2008, 02:41:00 PM
Deadpool is still looking... terrible... I'm hoping so much that that's him pre-weapon X, and maybe he gets maimed by wolvie or something, which results in his experimentation and insanity. It's probably far too much to ask for for a secondary character though.

Ryan Reynolds has stated in one interview that he did numberous costume fittings that included many red and black outfits especially a full masked ninja-suit and various make-up fittings for face and arm appliances. Plus he did hint that Deadpool fans will not be disappointed by his portrayal of our "favorite insane joke machine".

[spoiler]My guess is that the movie starts off after his initial background story with bone-claw Wolverine waking up among all of the Weapon X recuits that Stryker has assembled and then over the course of time there he watches as Wade (Deadpool) and Barnell (Beak) change as they are experimented upon. Then during the break-out portion of the movie after Logan cuts open the cages (seen in the trailer) once he gets his admantium injected we will probably see Deadpool go to a weapons locker and find his masked agent uniform with all of his trademark weapons (i.e. Deadpool: "All this for me?!?! Wow.. they really shouldn't have... looks like it's time for the big bloody revenge sequence. My favorite part of any action movie.")[/spoiler]

- CQ
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 15, 2008, 05:45:15 PM
That's encouraging CQ.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Figure Fan on December 15, 2008, 07:36:57 PM
Did anyone notice the little girl with the white hair at 1:52? She looks like she might be Kenyan..

Interesting. This doesn't look all that bad, actually. I just hope they can tell a good story, because a full-on action film with Wolverine isn't that unique, especially after it's been done three times in a row.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on December 15, 2008, 09:14:08 PM
I think this looks great. One big fear was Deadpool and crimsonquill has allayed that considerably.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Figure Fan on December 15, 2008, 10:37:43 PM
I don't even like Gambit in the comics, but this actor looks great for the part. I don't see why a lot of the people on the various news sites are commenting and freaking out. The staff scenes were pretty awesome, too. Has he ever charged up his staff like that in the comics? Seems like a good idea, actually.

My word, I'm actually liking this movie from what I've seen? I'm scared..:huh:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on December 15, 2008, 10:40:50 PM
pretty cool trailer, but Sabertooth has yet to convince me as an intimidating villain. I didn't think he was very good in X-Men 1 with Tyler Mane in the role. He looked decent, but his acting was really subpar (as is expected from most wrestlers). And this new guy in the role is probably a better actor (not hard to do) but doesn't look at all like Sabretooth. It looks like they just slapped some teeth on him and thought that was enough. Oh well, wait and see I suppose. It looks interesting enough to go see, anyways.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 15, 2008, 11:06:26 PM
Well, I actually had a moment to watch the trailer, and I think it looks somewhat decent.  Despite some comments about costumes, I think it is rather telling that we don't see anything even remotely costume-ish in the trailer.  We didn't get to see much of Gambit in the trailer (one of my favorite characters, thanks to the old 'toon), but I suppose what we saw looked decent.  TheMarvell, I was actually thinking just after watching the trailer that I was really disappointed with the look of Sabertooth.  He doesn't LOOK much like the character (the least they could have done was cast a guy who was somewhat blond and added some 'fur' to him) but the biggest problem for me is that he just isn't very big.  Sabertooth from X-Men may not have been much more than a brute, but he was an intimidating brute who played well against Wolverine.  These observations aren't necessarily big deals, but I have to say that there are a lot of little details that it seems they are neglecting.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: thanoson on December 16, 2008, 12:01:39 AM
See, I think because this is an Orgins story, this takes place before Creed mutates into the hulking Sabertooth. Remember, the original Sabertooth that was Iron Fist and Powerman's enemy was not big either. He wore normal shoes and most of his look was just costume.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: murs47 on December 16, 2008, 12:14:28 AM
Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool should be a slam dunk. My gut tells me they'll CGI in his cancerous look, it just wasn't ready for the trailer me thinks. 
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 09:52:31 AM
Quote from: TheMarvell on December 15, 2008, 10:40:50 PM
pretty cool trailer, but Sabertooth has yet to convince me as an intimidating villain. I didn't think he was very good in X-Men 1 with Tyler Mane in the role. He looked decent, but his acting was really subpar (as is expected from most wrestlers). And this new guy in the role is probably a better actor (not hard to do) but doesn't look at all like Sabretooth.

I think Liev Schrieber (the actor playing sabertooth) looks fantastic. I was never convinced that the classic Sabertooth look could be pulled off that well in film (much like wolverines costume). As an actor he's got a weird style, but I usually find him to be pretty cool.

His small role as a young John Clark in The Sum of All Fears was really good, and he did a fantastic Orson Wells in RKO 281.
I'm going to ignore the Scream Movies....
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 10:07:36 AM
Well, obviously you can't have a big guy with a mink wrapped around his neck, dressed in orange spandex, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't have done SOMETHING to indicate that hey, this character is the same one from the comics.  Just making him look a bit more hairy and...I don't know BLOND!   :P
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 10:19:13 AM
Much as a lot of people had issues with gambit... Im gonna go the other way and be the guy who doesn't have a problem with sabertooth.  :D

I do still have an issue with cramming in every character and X-men in-joke known to man. It just fills up a movie with winks and nods and usually just detracts form the those lesser things like story and plot (ie. X3). Dont get me wrong it looks like a cool comic book type of movie, Im just really hoping it doesn't suffer from the X3 problems.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: docdelorean88 on December 16, 2008, 07:50:08 PM
I too have a problem with sabertooth. The man is a big grizzly hairy thing. This guy isn't. Whatever, i guess if his humungous hair growth is scienctific mutaion related then i hope they show it. I probably wouldn't have such a problem if they hadn't already esablished him in the other movies as a man bear wolve tiger cat thing. I mean if they don't show it, they will have one heck of a time trying to write it to work up to the preceding future storylines! Just think while the first showing is going on, somewhere around the world, somone is watching X1 and suddenly, sabertooths beard/fur/coat(?) dissapears! This change could alter the very fabric of time itself! Talk about paradoxial(here comes the Doc Brown Lingo. This is heavy! Now Marty McFly?! Great Scott![It's a vicious cylce :lol:])!

Gambit. A personal favorite if only for his romantic French-Johnny Reb accent! I think he is well cast. If there is anything i wish was in it is the same as every one else. that great comic book/90's cartoon suit he wore.

I'll say this for it. It certainly has a different vibe. I think it will be a good different though. At the very least it will lead to better movies no related to the X-Franchise. Think WWII...

That's right, The First Avenger: Captain America. Lets not forget Wolvie and Cap were WWII budies!
Quick side note: In The First Avenger: Captain America, Logan could easily even as a cameo establish a role as caps best friend. Find a reason for cap to be frozen, show logan talking to govt officials about caps freezing/logans work, cap is on ice at the end, and in the begining of the Avengers movie he is thawed.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 08:39:53 PM
QuoteAt the very least it will lead to better movies no related to the X-Franchise.

Oh I beg to differ... if this thing makes a bunch of money you will see "X" films being greenlit out the wazoo,.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 16, 2008, 08:54:16 PM
for comparison sake so people can stop assuming that Sabretooth always looked like one of his various iconic looks, this is how he looked when he first showed up in comics:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/th_SpectacularSpidey116.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/?action=view&current=SpectacularSpidey116.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/th_Sabretooth_001.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/?action=view&current=Sabretooth_001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/th_ironfist014.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v77/premo/?action=view&current=ironfist014.jpg)

As you can see, he wasn't always a huge, hairy mongrel. And now I'll go back to ignoring this thread. ^_-_o
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 09:11:54 PM
Umm........sorry Prev, but I've gotta' say he doesn't look that much different than iconic Sabertooth.  He still looks big, feral, hairy, and BLOND.  He's even still got the 'fur' on his suit.  Heck, the least they could have done was given the actor an orange shirt to wear... :mellow:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 16, 2008, 09:25:55 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 09:11:54 PM
Umm........sorry Prev, but I've gotta' say he doesn't look that much different than iconic Sabertooth.  He still looks big, feral, hairy, and BLOND.  He's even still got the 'fur' on his suit.  Heck, the least they could have done was given the actor an orange shirt to wear... :mellow:

He was beefed up (http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/f/f0/Sabretoothe.jpg/552px-Sabretoothe.jpg) considerably once he became Wolverine's rival and his backstory was fleshed out.

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9490/224086-127670-sabretooth_large.jpg) (http://www.comicvine.com/127670-sabretooth/105-224086/)

And since this is the movie verse, I don't think he has to look 100% like his comic/toon counterparts, but then again, I wouldn't find a reason to complain about it anyway unless I couldn't tell who the character was or it was set AFTER X-men 1-3. *shrugs*

Also, this is set in Weapon X...he wouldn't be wearing orange at that time. He was wearing black...or that's how I remember it. :P
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 09:39:22 PM
Yeah, he does look beefier in that shot, but still he looks like a relatively big guy in the first images.  Now, don't get me wrong, like we've talked about before I don't want to see comic accurate costumes.  I just want to see something that looks like it MIGHT not be street clothes.  As for not being able to tell it was Sabertooth, well to tell you the truth, if I hadn't KNOWN that Sabertooth was in that trailer, I might not have recognized him.  As it was, I still didn't know until he opened his mouth and had fangs.  I don't want to see ANYONE in orange spandex in real life, but it would be nice if they made some effort to make him recognizable as that character.  I just don't buy into the all-or-nothing mindset that seems to be the established relationship of fans to studio.  To make it realistic you don't have to remove all aspects of the characters visual representation.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on December 16, 2008, 09:41:14 PM
For the record Sabretooth has sported looks that do not include fur and such.

For example his AoA/Exile look:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/79723-171323-sabretooth_super.jpg

And his Weapon X look:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/187435-124849-sabretooth_super.jpg

Also I think they're purposely avoiding relying on costumes for this film. It's not that kind of story.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 09:44:33 PM
Still-big, blond, hairy.  Ha, once again, I'm not saying that they should be dressed in spandex, and they don't have to RELY on costumes, but they could provide visual cues that would blend seamlessly into their setting and be completely unrecognized by non-fans, but which would show that they do care about the characters visual portrayal (arguably almost as important as their characterization in the books they populate). 
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 16, 2008, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Podmark on December 16, 2008, 09:41:14 PM
For the record Sabretooth has sported looks that do not include fur and such.

For example his AoA/Exile look:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/79723-171323-sabretooth_super.jpg

And his Weapon X look:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/187435-124849-sabretooth_super.jpg

Also I think they're purposely avoiding relying on costumes for this film. It's not that kind of story.

Indeed...and as I said, before he became a full time villain...he wore "black". Not orange and fur (since you mentioned he should wear an orange shirt...silly). This goes all the way back to Team X up until Weapon X, iirc my timeline correctly. So, if they're going off the comic timeline, the look is fairly accurate. Heck, he could get bigger in the movie too since, ya know, Weapon X might experiment on him. There's no info to say whether or not that happens, so until more info on that is thrown out, I think it's fair to hold off on the constant complaining about it. So, it leaves me wondering how one can complain about not honoring the character visually just because they're not taking cues from his iconic looks. Fair question, tis it not? What visual cues do you want other than blond hair and a massive size? He has teeth. He'll have his claws (most likely). He'll be psychotic...what more do you need? And him wearing a bunch of street clothes is in-character for him and Logan otherwise he'd be wearing tons of leather with a bunch of attachments. :P

Also, I'm confused on your usage of hairy. Are you speaking body hair or what? It seems to change depending on the image posted.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 10:22:37 PM
The hairy part was mostly facetious.  I have ceded the point about orange given the Weapon X setting (although I have to say that it is a color infinitely associated with the character), but from what we know about the story and what I can tell from the scene where he and Logan square off, that certainly seems to be POST Weapon X.  Note, Wolverine has his claws.  This is, admittedly, a somewhat dubious assumption, but I don't believe I'm being wildly outlandish here.  I also am not speaking only about Sabertooth in my desire for something resembling costumes.  The conversation has focused on him since I find his character design in the movie to be rather disappointing (as do others), and I'm afraid my defense of that view has now given the impression that I'm 'constantly complaining' about him.  Nevertheless, I would really have liked it if they had at least cast a blond actor (also, one who was big enough to be physically imposing when put next to Wolverine).  That kind of thing irks me a great deal.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 16, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
just to point out, I didn't clarify you as constantly complaining. It was a generic comment. Keep it generic please. :P
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on December 16, 2008, 10:32:26 PM
Yeah I'm not impressed visually based off the trailer with Sabretooth. He doesn't look tough enough...or maybe it's menacing enough. Something seems off.

Gambit I liked, he's got the look - hair, coat, cards, staff - but in something that fits what I think the film will be like.

Deadpool though, you gotta do better than just a red t-shirt (and I expect they will). I probably sound a little hypocritical because I'm ok with street clothes for everyone else, but without something more resembling his costume it just doesn't get across the charm of Deadpool.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 10:36:38 PM
Who wants to see Prev in an orange spandex body suit with a fur collar??

*RAISES HAND WILDLY*
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 10:44:40 PM
Ha, alright Prev, I just wanted to make clear that I haven't been posting about Sabertooth for the last dozen posts because I was so zealously devoted to his costume, but because I was trying to defend my original statement.  

Pod, I agree.  Gambit doesn't look bad (from what little I've seen) and I am just happy that he's got the coat.  From the all-to-brief scenes in that trailer, I think that he works as an excellent example of what I'm talking about.  What is Gambit's classic look?  He wears a brown trench coat, purple shirt, and black pants.  As far as I could tell, he was wearing a brown trench coat and a purple shirt, albeit not a spandex one.  That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.  He's instantly recognizable AS the character he is playing.  Heck, at least he's got brown hair and is about the same build!

As far as Deadpool, if they've got the mask and a tac-suit with some red, I'll be happy.  They claim that he WILL have something of a costume, although "they" also claimed that Galactus wouldn't be a big, amorphous space-cloud, 'cause hey, they had a MUCH better idea than that!

(I think he may deserve that, Goggles...)
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: murs47 on December 16, 2008, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 10:36:38 PM
Who wants to see Prev in an orange spandex body suit with a fur collar??

*RAISES HAND WILDLY*

*jumps in the air* Me! Me! Me! I'll bring the one dollar bills!

Anyways, I have no problem with Sabretooth's movie attire. In fact, I like it more then his comic book cave-man look. As long as he hates Wolverine, snaps people's necks, and tells people "scream for me" before un-necessarily killing them, I'm satisfied. It's about character, not clothes...leave that stuff to Joan Rivers.

Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 16, 2008, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 10:36:38 PM
Who wants to see Prev in an orange spandex body suit with a fur collar??

*RAISES HAND WILDLY*

I'll totally do that! The same day you have 6 baby wolverines and 2 baby sabretooths (at the same time) and Benton denies his love of Aquaman and declares his devotion to Namor. This all has to happen on the same day though. Why 6 wolverines, you ask, Shirley? Duh, it explains how he can appear so often. Now...if you both can get that done...I'll actually consider this costume thing...

and promptly deny it.

As for gambit, yes he may be recognizable, but he's only worn 3-4 costumes most of his career. There's not much to choose from there. And his costumes (if you want to call 'em that) are street based, so it's not a tough find for him. Other than the build/hair for Sabretooth, they wouldn't really be able to pull off his iconic looks unless they went ultimate...which is street clothes and a lot of leather. :P
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 16, 2008, 10:59:03 PM
The Sabertooth issue is size, hair color, and all-around intimidation, not really clothes.  Also, I take back everything I said about Gambit.  I just watched the trailer again, and he's got a black trench coat.  Come on, is it that hard to give him a brown freakin' coat?  I know that is REALLY minor, and it wouldn't bother me except for what I just finished typing.  His looks translates so well to live action, why NOT just translate it directly?  Bah, that won't affect the movie, nor my enjoyment of it, but it just reestablishes something that I already knew...Hollywood is full of idiots.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on December 16, 2008, 11:02:22 PM
I don't think it was even a trench Benton. They seem to be going for a very sauve aspect of the character, which I like. The grimier version is so 90s.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Mystik on December 16, 2008, 11:05:47 PM
sabertooth always looks big in the comics because wolvies a midget and hugh jackman is 6'1 or something like that


secondly the look for sabertooth is presumably inspired from the weapon x comics
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/e/e5/CoverWeaponX1.jpg/300px-CoverWeaponX1.jpg (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/e/e5/CoverWeaponX1.jpg/300px-CoverWeaponX1.jpg)
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 16, 2008, 11:17:06 PM
As Mystik brought up... you remember back when X-Men came out and everyone was like Hugh Jackman? Who's that guy? Hes like over 6 foot... that sucks... this blows... worst casting decision ever.... etc... etc....
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Podmark on December 16, 2008, 11:26:23 PM
Hugh Jackman is a great Wolverine. He's not the prefect representation of the comics but he's still very enjoyable.

And yeah Jackman's height does make casting a large Sabretooth a little harder.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: thanoson on December 17, 2008, 12:49:05 AM
I always wondered if Danzig could have pulled of Wolverine given the chance. He was tailormade for that role. If only he could act.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BWPS on December 17, 2008, 10:23:03 AM
Interview with will.I.am from superherohype.com

Quote from: Ariticle
CS/SHH!: How does acting compare to performing?

will.i.am: It's surreal, man. I'm a musician, and I love to perform live, but being part of this movie is such a big deal to me. I do get to rhyme a little in the movie though.

CS/SHH!: You rap in the movie?

will.i.am: Yeah, for a couple minutes I break out with some hip-hop. I thought it'd be a good idea to put some of that in for the fans, and [Hood] was like, "Go for it". I think y'all will dig it.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=5434

:thumbdown:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 17, 2008, 10:32:15 AM
Who is this loser?

:EDIT: I ask because that link doesn't seem to work.

As for the issue of Jackman's height: that is a good point, and something I have thought about.  Still, I think that they could have found SOMEONE who was bigger than him, plus it isn't exactly beyond the ability of a film to make someone seem bigger than they are...Lord of the Rings? ;)  Anyway, Jackman is a great Wolverine, so I have no problem with his height.

I do like some of the small touches I've seen in that trailer, like the smiley face Sabertooth craves...I seem to remember that being straight out of the comics.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 17, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Exactly. My point wasn't that its hard to find someone bigger than Hugh Jackman... I just meant that everyone went gonzo back when he was cast cause he seemed so NOT the character, and then he ran with it, and everyone was like... yeah, ok we might have been wrong.

Same thing with Sabertooth, I would much rather have an actor who doesn't seem to match the visual but can nail the character as a performance, in lieu of an actor who looks the part, but cant act.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BentonGrey on December 17, 2008, 01:40:48 PM
Well, to be fair Goggles, when I (not being able to speak for "everyone") saw pictures of Jackman in costume, with the hair and the chops, I thought he looked SPOT ON like the character.  However, after seeing this guy in "costume" I don't feel that way at all. 
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on December 17, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
Will.I.Am. is some rap/hip hop musician that is apparently in the movie. Great...a freaking rap scene? I hope that gets put on the cutting room floor and becomes a "deleted scene" on the dvd, cus good god, Marvel should have learned from their mistakes in Spider-Man 3 and Fantastic Four 2.

As for Sabertooth, his hair color doesn't mean anything to me. It's the fact that, well, he doesn't look like a menacing beast. He has short hair and fangs, and doesn't look anything like he did in X1. He just doesn't look intimidating in the least. He might be a good actor, but as a superhero fan, I like my heros and villains to at least resemble the character. They don't have to look verbatim, but I want to see the character and say "oh yeah, that's the movie version of whoever!". Not "wait, who's that guy standing with Wolverine in WW2? ... is that really supposed to be Sabertooth?"

but again, I might love this "version" of the character after I see the movie. But the trailer is not convincing for Sabertooth.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 18, 2008, 07:18:42 AM
Quote from: TheMarvell on December 17, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
Will.I.Am. is some rap/hip hop musician that is apparently in the movie. Great...a freaking rap scene? I hope that gets put on the cutting room floor and becomes a "deleted scene" on the dvd, cus good god, Marvel should have learned from their mistakes in Spider-Man 3 and Fantastic Four 2.

That's a logic jump...and pretty insulting. If this "rap scene" isn't in the movie, I'll destroy humanity...more so than it already is. ^^

But seriously, what makes you think that just because he's a rapper/producer/hip-hop artist that he's automatically going to rap as well? When you see Will Smith in a movie do you go, "no way! A friggin' old school rapper in a movie about a homeless person? What, is he gonna rap for money?!"
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 18, 2008, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: Previsionary on December 18, 2008, 07:18:42 AM
But seriously, what makes you think that just because he's a rapper/producer/hip-hop artist that he's automatically going to rap as well? When you see Will Smith in a movie do you go, "no way! A friggin' old school rapper in a movie about a homeless person? What, is he gonna rap for money?!"

Uh looking back at the quote from the article, we assume hes going to rap because he said he did....

Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 18, 2008, 09:38:06 AM
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on December 18, 2008, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: Previsionary on December 18, 2008, 07:18:42 AM
But seriously, what makes you think that just because he's a rapper/producer/hip-hop artist that he's automatically going to rap as well? When you see Will Smith in a movie do you go, "no way! A friggin' old school rapper in a movie about a homeless person? What, is he gonna rap for money?!"

Uh looking back at the quote from the article, we assume hes going to rap because he said he did....



*gasp* Well, in my defense, that post didn't show up in the recent posts at all when I checked or the actual thread. Probably an internet issue. ^^. Obviously this "rhyming" scene will be as awesome as a Shirley and the Shirlettes concert.
-----

ETA:

and as Cat posted below, there's no info on this rap scene at all from any of the sites I checked. In fact, the only ones I can find are from months ago that speak about his fight scene and his character being a "black texan, but not a cowboy".
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on December 18, 2008, 09:42:37 AM
I would also doubt that the article quoted actually exists anyways, unless real link (and not a rick roll, Shame on you, BWPS) can be provided.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: GogglesPizanno on December 18, 2008, 10:10:35 AM
It Doesn't change the fact that Shirley and Shirlettes would rock the house....  :cool:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: The Hitman on December 18, 2008, 10:33:24 AM
Saw a trailer for this last night, before the trainwreck that is "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (My goodness, it was awful. So awful I may start a thread about it). Looked pretty good. I hope Deadpool gets some semblance of a costume during the course of the film. I recognized most of the folks in it. I may have been mistaken, but is White Queen in this? And who was the fat guy? I didn't think Blob was part of Weapon X.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: crimsonquill on December 18, 2008, 03:39:24 PM
Quote from: The Hitman on December 18, 2008, 10:33:24 AM
I recognized most of the folks in it. I may have been mistaken, but is White Queen in this? And who was the fat guy? I didn't think Blob was part of Weapon X.

Emma Frost and Fred Dukes are just mutants among those imprisoned by Weapon X and being experimented upon to study mutants and "improve" their powers for the program as agents. Emma gets her "diamond form" in the movieverse by her modifications and I'm assuming that Deadpool will get disfigured by his body's reaction to Wolverine's healing factor when they try to duplicate it within him to cure his cancer (which I assume is his reason for joining Weapon X). The only disappointment I've found in the character modifications is Barnell Bohusk (aka Beak) being normal looking and having electrical powers (maybe they are just jumping over his bird mutaton and going for his current "Blackwing" look in New Warriors - so if another character makes a comment that he was ugly or a "bird boy" in his old pre-Weapon X state then I'll be happy that they at least acknowledged his first comic look).

Will.i.am (the rapper everyone is worrying about) is playing the character John Wraith in this movie... who is mostly known as a paranoid teleporter with lots of firearms and a die-hard for wearing ten-gallon cowboy hats, sunglasses, and a comfy suit (usually cowboy looking with boots).

- CQ
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on December 18, 2008, 10:47:08 PM
how the hell is what I said insulting? Anyways, when I read that clip, I immediately got the terrible image that is the jazz scene in Spider-Man 3 and the bachelor party in Fantastic Four 2. If he does have a rap scene, I hope it's only in passing and not the focal point of the scene. If I see Wolverine dancing alongside a rap number, I think I'll throw up a little.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: BWPS on December 19, 2008, 12:46:16 AM
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on December 18, 2008, 09:42:37 AM
I would also doubt that the article quoted actually exists anyways, unless real link (and not a rick roll, Shame on you, BWPS) can be provided.

You loved it.
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: Previsionary on December 19, 2008, 01:37:56 AM
Quote from: TheMarvell on December 18, 2008, 10:47:08 PM
how the hell is what I said insulting? Anyways, when I read that clip, I immediately got the terrible image that is the jazz scene in Spider-Man 3 and the bachelor party in Fantastic Four 2. If he does have a rap scene, I hope it's only in passing and not the focal point of the scene. If I see Wolverine dancing alongside a rap number, I think I'll throw up a little.  :unsure:

Did you not read my message? BWPS's little joke wasn't showing up for me at all, so my initial thought was that you saw Will.I.Am and automatically went "RAP SCENE". As it turns out, BWPS was being an evil trickster again...we can all blame him now. *blames BWPS...and Shirley*
Title: Re: Leaked Wolverine Trailer
Post by: TheMarvell on December 20, 2008, 12:24:34 AM
joke or not...it now has me paranoid, ever since that travesty that was the Anchorman-inspired scene in Spider-Man 3... <shudder>. Thanks a lot guys.  :lol: