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Started by BentonGrey, January 02, 2016, 09:16:24 PM

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HarryTrotter

Also,Supersons concept is once again active in the DCU.Funny how that worked out.
And speaking of Superman,IIRC we are just a few issues away from The Sandman Saga,introduction(rework) of Bronze Age Superman.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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spydermann93

Quote from: BentonGrey on September 21, 2016, 02:44:51 AMHey, by the way, what do y'all think about Aquaman's moral choice in this month's issue?  I'm curious how other folks view it.

I don't really know what the best call would have been. I guess there's a chance for her to escape, but the tech that those aliens have might make that nearly impossible (judging by the surprise they had when Aquaman actually broke out). Seems like she would have had a better chance of escaping the natives. But she'd still be hunted down, I'm sure.

If I had the choice, I'd say let me fight and at least have a shot at living freely than being enslaved for what I can only guess to be for the rest of my life.

BentonGrey

Well, time for another edition of Into the Bronze Age!  This week we've got two good stories, one of which really captured my imagination. 
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2016/09/22/into-the-bronze-age-august-1970-part-4/

Spade, the Super Sons made a return in modern DC?  Really?  That's...hard to believe.

Yep, the Sand Superman is part of the Kryptonite No More story, if I understand correctly, and I've heard that is a big improvement in the series.  I'm quite looking forward to it.  Ha, each time I read a terrible Superman comic, I look up how many more issues are left before I reach that one.  :P

Spyder, thanks for taking a crack at the question!  Yeah, I agree.  I suppose it's the fact that he doesn't give HER a choice, that he makes her choice for her, that is the most troublesome. 
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kkhohoho

Quote from: BentonGrey on September 23, 2016, 04:25:33 AM
Spade, the Super Sons made a return in modern DC?  Really?  That's...hard to believe.

Yup. Sort of, anyway. Turns out that Batman had an illegitimate child with Talia ages ago. Eventually, he found Brucey and became Robin. As for Supes Jr., he's the kid of Post Crisis/Pre Nu52 Superman who got transported over to the current continuity when the Nu52 Superman kicked the bucket. So what they're doing is putting Damion!Robin and Supes.Jr together and making them the actual canonical Supersons, for better or worse. The big difference is they're kids instead of young adults, but yeah, no; this is something that actually happened. Just let that sink in for a bit...
The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

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BentonGrey

Ohh, so it's Super Sons without the whimsy and charm and with 100% more fornication.  Yay!  :(
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HarryTrotter

#95
Its not so weird when you consider that the writers of today were kids during the Supersons years.
In theory Damien,was more like cloned.Being grown in a tank and all.Also,its been ten years since his introduction.Time sure flies.
And speaking of thing that will be referenced later,in about a year or so,there will be Snowbirds dont fly.You know,when Roy was a junkie and Oliver was a dumbass?
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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kkhohoho

Quote from: Spade on September 23, 2016, 05:44:40 AM
And speaking of thing that will be referenced later,in about a year or so,there will be Snowbirds dont fly.You know,when Roy was a junkie and Oliver was a dumbass?

"MY WARD IS A JUNKIE!"
The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

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HarryTrotter

Quote from: kkhohoho on September 23, 2016, 03:11:09 PM
Quote from: Spade on September 23, 2016, 05:44:40 AM
And speaking of thing that will be referenced later,in about a year or so,there will be Snowbirds dont fly.You know,when Roy was a junkie and Oliver was a dumbass?

"MY WARD IS A JUNKIE!"
Good thing (or bad,depending who you ask) is that it got retconed later.Now,Roy is a former alcoholic.
On a more positive note,also in about a year or so,DC got its first black superhero-John Stewart.
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BentonGrey

Yeah...I'm really not looking forward to that one.  It's such a bad story and it pretty much ruined Speedy forever.

On a more positive note (sort of), the next edition of Into the Bronze Age is out!:
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/into-the-bronze-age-august-1970-part-5/
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HarryTrotter

Execution planet seems like an interesting idea.Only,its played pretty straight.So thats a missed opportunity.
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BentonGrey

Yeah, that first one had a lot of neat concepts, and I was probably a little hard on it.  It was just such an incoherent mess, but the biggest factor in its poor score was Superman blithely causing several deaths. 
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HarryTrotter

That and the time travel/space civilisation/Atlantis was a bit convoluted.There is material there for 3-4 issues.Was that ever revisited,actually?
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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BentonGrey

Good question Spade.  If I had to guess, I'd say no, as it is just such a throw-away idea, but I'm afraid I don't know enough about Superman to say.

Here's what I do know, today is another day of our journey Into the Bronze Age!  Here's the end of August 1970:
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2016/10/06/into-the-bronze-age-august-1970-part-6/
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trebean

Quote from: BentonGrey on September 23, 2016, 05:03:45 AM
Ohh, so it's Super Sons without the whimsy and charm and with 100% more fornication.  Yay!  :(
The book itself looks pretty fun. Also, Damian has been in continuity for literal years, how is this the first time you've heard of him? I understand Jon since it wasn't until Superman Convergence did he technically first appeared.


I've been really liking Jon since Superman Rebirth but let's just leave it at that. I don't wanna hijack this thread with current comics.

BentonGrey

Ohh, I've heard of him, Trebean, I just don't have much interest in the character and dislike his origin.

That cover does look like fun, though.  :)
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BentonGrey

Well gents, in an effort to bring a little brightness into our world today, here is another iteration of Into the Bronze Age!
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/into-the-bronze-age-september-1970-part-1/
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HarryTrotter


They go to funerals in costumes.Lounging around the house in costume makes perfect sense. :|
Wow,Superman really is a dick.
Keep up the good work,Benton.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

BentonGrey

Thanks Spade!

Yeah, those issues could really fill an entire webpage of Super Dickery.

At least wearing a costume at a funeral for a superhero or the like makes a certain amount of sense (Hey, why is Bruce Wayne attending the funeral of the Flash?).  Swimming in your backyard pool in full costume...not so much.  :lol:
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HarryTrotter

Well,when Batman is most appropriatly dressed at a funeral,then you might have a problem.
Actually,I seem to recall one or two cases where they went in civilan clothes.Like when Linda Park died(she got better).
In this case,it was Lian Harpers(Roys daughter) funeral,so it is a bit odd that they showed up in full costumes.But compared to the rest of the story,that made perfect sense.
That aside,weddings arent any better.But seeing Batman in full gear just watching TV is pretty hilarious.And granted,the legacy angle is kinda touching.But its not "Whatever happened to the Man of Tommorow?".
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

HarryTrotter

Something I forgot to mention before;I understand its not possible to read EVERY DC series of the time,you should give House of Mystery a chance.
And its sister series House of Secrets is also worth a look.Btw,it introduces Swamp Thing in '71,so at least keep an eye out for that.:)
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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BentonGrey

Hah, yeah, I'm afraid that I'm already never going to finish my little project, Spade, and here you are trying to add more work!  ;)  Seriously though, I've heard wonderful things about both of those series, and I will probably end up reading some of them.  I'm sticking to the straight superhero stuff (for the most part) for the moment, though, as it's a logical division of material that makes it slightly manageable.  I will definitely be reading the Swamp Thing run, though.
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HarryTrotter

That,and a lot of it was covered by Superdickery,so you would be repeating some things. ;)
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Jon Farmer

BentonGrey

Annnnd here's another Into the Bronze Age post, featuring a very solid Batman tale.  Thanks for reading!
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2016/12/07/into-the-bronze-age-september-1970-part-2/
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HarryTrotter

So in theory-Batman walks in,buys a gun no-questions-asked,walks out with the gun.
Laws are pretty lax in the DC universe,obviously. :)
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

daglob

Laws were pretty relaxed in the 1970s universe, too. No waiting periods, no background checks, no responsibility... I really wanted (and still do, for that matter) a 1896-model Mauser machine pistol... considering my step mother at that time, it is probably best that I didn't get one.

The part I liked was the nod to the Sherlock Holmes story "The Problem of Thor Bridge".

HarryTrotter

#115
Okay,Im not an expert when it comes to gun control,but it just seems a bit odd somebody would sell a gun to a well known masked vigilante.
Well,it would take some 250 more issues till a crossver with Sherlock Holmes. :)
For those interested it was in Detective Comics #572 by Mike W Barr,Alan Davis and Paul Nearly.Those guys are cool.:)
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Jon Farmer

daglob

Well, it is a bit odd. While if my memory serves, it would have been easy for Bruce Wayne to buy a gun and walk out with it, what I can't imagine is that the gun dealer didn't call the newspaper as soon as "Batman" left.

The Sherlock Holmes crossover is one I still have (someplace), as well as the team ups with The Shadow (which were not as good).

HarryTrotter

Quote from: daglob on December 08, 2016, 06:44:15 PM
Well, it is a bit odd. While if my memory serves, it would have been easy for Bruce Wayne to buy a gun and walk out with it, what I can't imagine is that the gun dealer didn't call the newspaper as soon as "Batman" left.

The Sherlock Holmes crossover is one I still have (someplace), as well as the team ups with The Shadow (which were not as good).
There was a crossover with the Shadow?And I thought crossovers with Judge Dredd and Grendel were weird.  :)
Two degrees of Batman,I guess.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

BentonGrey

Ha, great discussion guys!  Yeah, at the least, you'd think the gun store owner would want the publicity of having Batman buy a gun in his store!
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daglob

Quote from: BentonGrey on December 09, 2016, 12:21:09 AM
Ha, great discussion guys!  Yeah, at the least, you'd think the gun store owner would want the publicity of having Batman buy a gun in his store!

Of course, if he had contacted the papers, Batman would have known something was up.