DC Extended Universe

Started by HarryTrotter, December 16, 2015, 07:08:45 PM

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Talavar

There are rumours that the guy lined up to direct Aquaman is considering walking away as well.  Wheels just keep falling off this thing!

catwhowalksbyhimself

I forgot about that one.  But yeah, they are trying to course correct by taking more control and that is only resulting in their directors walking.

It's like they have no idea how to run a movie universe or something.
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BentonGrey

Imagine that, Cat.  It's almost as if putting your fingers in your ears and humming, steadfastly refusing to learn from folks doing something successfully, is a bad strategy...as if anyone would actually care if they "copied" Marvel, insofar as "copying" them means having people who actually care about and understand the characters make good movies about them.
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Tomato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1seGmUrFUk

rewatched this earlier today, and it basically sums it up, I think. They're so afraid to embrace their own universe.

HarryTrotter

And it looks like director Seth Grahame-Smith walked out from Flash.
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Tomato

Quote from: Tomato on May 02, 2016, 12:02:05 AM
So... After DC made such a big deal about how all its movies are "creator driven" and how they didn't want to hamper the creative voices of their creators by trying to shoehorn everything into a larger cinematic universe (comments that were clearly intended as a sleight against Marvel's poor track record with directors) Flash director Seth Grahame-Smith just quit the project citing "creative differences" with the studio.

http://screenrant.com/flash-movie-loses-director-grahame-smith/

I'm not normally that guy, but it does amuse me that this is happening to WB after they made such a big deal about catering to their creators.

Quote from: Spade on May 02, 2016, 05:43:08 AM
And it looks like director Seth Grahame-Smith walked out from Flash.

Yep. he sure did.  :P

HarryTrotter

Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.
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Talavar

Quote from: Spade on May 02, 2016, 06:03:23 AM
Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.

Well, he's never directed a movie, so his skill there is an unknown, but it doesn't inspire much confidence that a guy was willing to walk away from his potential big break.

kkhohoho

Quote from: Talavar on May 02, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: Spade on May 02, 2016, 06:03:23 AM
Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.

Well, he's never directed a movie, so his skill there is an unknown, but it doesn't inspire much confidence that a guy was willing to walk away from his potential big break.

And not to mention, but looking at his resume, the guy wrote Pride&Prejudice With Zombies and freaking Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. The guy writes black comedy/horror for a living, and while I'm not saying it isn't possible for him to do other stuff, it's still baffling how you'd even consider letting someone with that particular pedigree write the fricking Flash. Unless it was actually supposed to be an adaptation of Blackest Night in disguise, (which I really wouldn't put past DC these days,) I honestly think him leaving the project might have been the best move.
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HarryTrotter

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/james-wan-addresses-rumor-that-hes-dropped-out-of-directing-aquaman
James Wan isnt going anywhere after all.
Anyway,who thought that the guy behind Saw and Furious 7 would be a good choice for Aquaman?What was the thought process behind that? :|
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Talavar

Quote from: kkhohoho on May 02, 2016, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Talavar on May 02, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: Spade on May 02, 2016, 06:03:23 AM
Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.

Well, he's never directed a movie, so his skill there is an unknown, but it doesn't inspire much confidence that a guy was willing to walk away from his potential big break.

And not to mention, but looking at his resume, the guy wrote Pride&Prejudice With Zombies and freaking Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. The guy writes black comedy/horror for a living, and while I'm not saying it isn't possible for him to do other stuff, it's still baffling how you'd even consider letting someone with that particular pedigree write the fricking Flash. Unless it was actually supposed to be an adaptation of Blackest Night in disguise, (which I really wouldn't put past DC these days,) I honestly think him leaving the project might have been the best move.

True, though the Flash script was written by Phil Lord & Christopher Miller, of Lego Movie, 21 Jump Street, and others.  Giving up a chance to direct a big superhero movie written by proven successes takes some guts.

BentonGrey

Who thought that literally any single choice made by the empty suits in charge would be a good idea? :P
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Quote from: kkhohoho on May 02, 2016, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Talavar on May 02, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: Spade on May 02, 2016, 06:03:23 AM
Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.

Well, he's never directed a movie, so his skill there is an unknown, but it doesn't inspire much confidence that a guy was willing to walk away from his potential big break.

And not to mention, but looking at his resume, the guy wrote Pride&Prejudice With Zombies and freaking Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. The guy writes black comedy/horror for a living, and while I'm not saying it isn't possible for him to do other stuff, it's still baffling how you'd even consider letting someone with that particular pedigree write the fricking Flash. Unless it was actually supposed to be an adaptation of Blackest Night in disguise, (which I really wouldn't put past DC these days,) I honestly think him leaving the project might have been the best move.

Based on that description, you'd think he'd be more suited for Suicide Squad.
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catwhowalksbyhimself

Warner Bros has decided that maybe not having anyone overseeing their movie universe wasn't so great of an idea, so Geoff Johns is now in charge and has pledged to bring hope and optimism to the brand.  About where he wants to take the brand, he had this to say about Superman.

Quote"I think people make a mistake when they say, 'Superman's not relatable because he's so powerful,'" he said. "I'm like, 'Are you kidding me? He's a farmboy from Kansas who moves to the city and just wants to do the best he can with what he's got.' That's the most relatable character in the world."

So, that sounds a bit better.

http://screenrant.com/geoff-johns-dc-movies-hope-optimism/
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Talavar

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 20, 2016, 01:02:54 AM
Warner Bros has decided that maybe not having anyone overseeing their movie universe wasn't so great of an idea, so Geoff Johns is now in charge and has pledged to bring hope and optimism to the brand.  About where he wants to take the brand, he had this to say about Superman.

Quote"I think people make a mistake when they say, 'Superman's not relatable because he's so powerful,'" he said. "I'm like, 'Are you kidding me? He's a farmboy from Kansas who moves to the city and just wants to do the best he can with what he's got.' That's the most relatable character in the world."

So, that sounds a bit better.

http://screenrant.com/geoff-johns-dc-movies-hope-optimism/

And the DC based films are getting their own sub-studio: DC Films, with Johns as its head.  Let's hope this works out better.  It definitely sounds more promising.

HarryTrotter

Well Geoff Johns AND Jon Berg,to be precise.
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BentonGrey

Well, that certainly sounds better.  This is what they should have done to begin with, but the trouble is, they're already partway through.  Their cinematic universe is going to be hobbled by what came before. 
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daglob

Maybe they can say it was a dream, a horrible, horrible, dream. Maybe a red kryptonite-induced delusion? Zero-Hour it out of existence? Ignore it?

I've always thought that Henry Cavill's Superman looked more like Ultraman anyway...

BentonGrey

I'd be entirely alright with them beginning the Justice League movie by having Batman or Superman wake up and say, 'wow, what a horrible dream.  Everything was so dark and miserable and terribly written!'
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HarryTrotter

I wonder how would Superboy Prime react to the DCEU?
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abenavides

Johns getting the big chair is definitely cause for optimism (just a little).
I had seen that article where he talks about brining hope back, and it sounds like he at least knows what's wrong.
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daglob

Quote from: BentonGrey on May 20, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
I'd be entirely alright with them beginning the Justice League movie by having Batman or Superman wake up and say, 'wow, what a horrible dream.  Everything was so dark and miserable and terribly written!'

:D

catwhowalksbyhimself

The Batman V Superman producer who was going to produce most of the other universe films just got pulled off all of them.
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spydermann93

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 25, 2016, 02:28:18 AM
The Batman V Superman producer who was going to produce most of the other universe films just got pulled off all of them.

Really?

Wow.

Like, wow.

BWPS

Quote from: BentonGrey on May 20, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
I'd be entirely alright with them beginning the Justice League movie by having Batman or Superman wake up and say, 'wow, what a horrible dream.  Everything was so dark and miserable and terribly written!'

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Tomato

Y'know, to be fair, for the material he was given, Ben Affleck did FANTASTIC in the role. It's not Ben's fault the story was a hot mess and Snyder can't edit a film properly to save his life.

BWPS

Quote from: Tomato on May 30, 2016, 08:19:46 PM
Y'know, to be fair, for the material he was given, Ben Affleck did FANTASTIC in the role. It's not Ben's fault the story was a hot mess and Snyder can't edit a film properly to save his life.

Nah. He was a sticky gumshoe.
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HarryTrotter

http://screenrant.com/justice-league-synopsis-logo/
It doesnt really say anything new,but its news so I figured I should post it.
This means at least 2 more movies from Snyder.I am not amused.
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Talavar

How does this mean at least 2 more movies from Snyder?

In related news, a lot of movie sites were invited to the Justice League set last night, trying to turn around perceptions of the DCEU.  You can find some good reports on that visit here:http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/21/a-hater-tours-the-justice-league-set and here: http://io9.gizmodo.com/on-the-set-of-justice-league-the-movie-that-wants-to-s-1782290344

One of the details coming from these visits--it seems like Justice League is its own movie, no longer being referred to as part 1.  I'm sure they've got sequels planned, but it's no longer being conceived as a 2-part film.

HarryTrotter

I thought Justice League is in 2 parts.Okay,1 more movie?
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