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Started by John Jr., September 10, 2009, 12:49:36 AM

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John Jr.

Finally getting somewhere with my Legion mod, so I decided post some screenshots.
Mission 1, encounter 2, Superboy vs Bizarro Superman. Yup, I said Bizarro SuperMAN.
I'll try post Mission 2 screenshots tomorrow. Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl and Wildfire vs the Legion of Super-Villains to stop an interplanetary war.



Superboy: Mesh: VX Superboy, by Vertex; Skin by Courtnall 6
Bizarro: Mesh: Male Cape Nobelt by Irrational; Skin by Courtnall 6

spydermann93

This sounds really cool!

John Jr.

Quote from: spydermann93 on September 10, 2009, 10:54:26 AM
This sounds really cool!

Thanks. Making a mod can be downright frustrating sometimes, but it's worth!
I should have the final mission scripted by Sunday, then I'll make tests and finishing touches. Anyway, it should be finished before the XXX century :rolleyes:
Now, as promised, Mission 2 screenshot:


Wildfire: Mesh: VX Wildfire by Vertex, Skin: C6
Lightning Lad: Mesh VX Lightning Lad by Vertex, Skin: C6
Lightning Lord: Mesh: Male Basic Effects by Andrew Davis, Skin by Greycount
Titania: Mesh: Female Basic Amazon by Interceptor, Skin by Greycount
Saturn Girl:(not shown): Mesh by Tommyboy, skin by JKCarrier
Map: Mining Colony by cmdrkoenig67 (one of my favorites sci-fi maps)

Thanks to all the creators above.

BentonGrey

Congrats on getting this far JJ!  It is always awesome to see new modders coming up.  This adventure looks like a blast, man!
God Bless
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John Jr.

Thanks a lot, Benton!
Benton will be on my next "thank you!" list, since I could not make my base screens without his help. The damn thing only worked when I used Benton's as template. Every other time I had to deal with the Bizarro cameraman :banghead:
"Bizarro thinks zoom out is great to show close ups on characters!"

BentonGrey

Quote from: John Jr. on September 11, 2009, 01:03:45 AM
Thanks a lot, Benton!
Benton will be on my next "thank you!" list, since I could not make my base screens without his help. The damn thing only worked when I used Benton's as template. Every other time I had to deal with the Bizarro cameraman :banghead:
"Bizarro thinks zoom out is great to show close ups on characters!"


Hehe, "Bizarro am great cameraman!"

Anyway, no problem man.  Hopefully I'll be able to figure out what's giving you trouble eventually.  Base scenes seem to be more temperamental than regular missions.
God Bless
"If God came down upon me and gave me a wish again, I'd wish to be like Aquaman, 'cause Aquaman can take the pain..." -Ballad of Aquaman
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Previsionary

Good job on the modding, JJ. Always nice to see both a new mod and one geared towards the DCU. If ya need the mod hosted somewhere, FRP2 would be glad to host it. ^_^
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John Jr.

Quote from: Previsionary on September 11, 2009, 02:02:43 AM
Good job on the modding, JJ. Always nice to see both a new mod and one geared towards the DCU. If ya need the mod hosted somewhere, FRP2 would be glad to host it. ^_^

Thanks a lot, Prev.
Yes, I reaaaaly need somewhere to host the Legion, so it will be a pleasure and a honor have it on FRP2 .

tommyboy

Good to see the LSH getting more attention. They are having a bit of a renaissance in comics too, so another Mod will be very welcome.

wickerman

i have almost no idea who the LSH are, but man this looks fun...
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BentonGrey

Whether you know the Legion or not (and my knowledge was largely established by Tommy's own excellent mod), this is new FF content, and that is always a good thing.
God Bless
"If God came down upon me and gave me a wish again, I'd wish to be like Aquaman, 'cause Aquaman can take the pain..." -Ballad of Aquaman
Check out mymods and blog!
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/

John Jr.

#11
Quote from: tommyboy on September 11, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Good to see the LSH getting more attention. They are having a bit of a renaissance in comics too, so another Mod will be very welcome.
Thanks, Tommy.
Your work was a big influence on my decision to make this mod. Of course, since I can't do mesh I would never be able to do the mod without the work of guys like you, vertex and Greycount.

Quote from: wickerman on September 11, 2009, 03:11:53 PM
i have almost no idea who the LSH are, but man this looks fun...

Thanks, wickerman
Like Tommy said the Legion of Super-Heroes (LSH for the old friends) is returning from continuity hell. Having it on mind I made the mod open to anyone who wants to play, if you never heard about the LSH you can have a fun super-hero sci-fi story to play.
I'm trying to identify all characters with the "Biography" text on character edit and avoiding any chronological references to make it more "user friendly".

John Jr.

#12
Done the fourth and final mission, started testing and final touches. I am making my first skin for this mod (poor Lana, everyone else has great skins and she will one made by me :( )
Just for fun, a screenshot from Mission 3, Karate Kid vs Superman (?!)


Superman: Mesh Male Cape Nobelt by Irrational, skin by C6
Karate Kid, Mesh by Bobby69/Vertex, skin by Lightning Man
Map: Lunar, by cmdrkoenig67

DrMike2000

Way cool.

I'm a big fan of the Legion, I might just have a look at this when it comes out.
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spydermann93

About how many missions will this mod have? I can't wait!

John Jr.

I'm glad you are liking it, guys.
The mod will have four missions, if all goes as planned I'll do a second story arc in the near future.

spydermann93

Cool! I think, if in this one you don't include them, have the Fatal Five make an appearence! You must have them in a Legion mod!

John Jr.

The Five aren't on the first story arc, spydermann93 . I have a story arc with them I really want to do, but it needs some still non-existent meshes/skins, like Aquaboy (yes, Aquaman was a teen super-hero too, just ask Benton ;) ) and "The Super-Sons of Superman and Batman" (anyone else remember them?).
The Five would travel to the past to change the facts that originated the Legion, like they did on an classic Cary Bates/Dave Cockrun story, but in a bigger scale. The Legionnaires would travel to the past and team up with heroes like Kamandi, OMAC and the three above to stop them. Since I'm still learning to skin and my skope abilities are non-existent, I'll have to create another plot.

John Jr.

Almost done here.
I need a little help.
Almost all meshes and skins are for other creators, like I said earlier, some still active, some apparently retired. I need ask for permission to use the creations to each one of them or is only necessary I give proper credit on the mod?
Thanks!

Previsionary

Quote from: John Jr. on September 17, 2009, 11:00:34 PM
Almost done here.
I need a little help.
Almost all meshes and skins are for other creators, like I said earlier, some still active, some apparently retired. I need ask for permission to use the creations to each one of them or is only necessary I give proper credit on the mod?
Thanks!

if the mesh and skin have a readme, you should check it. The creator most likely will indicate whether or not you have to notify them about permission or if it's given for mod usage.
Disappear when you least expe--

John Jr.

Most of the have no info about it, Prev. I'll try contact the guys, only concerned about guys I never see around here.
Thanks a lot for the quick answer!

John Jr.

It's all scripted now and I'm making the final tests.
Meanwhile, a new screenshot:


Now featuring talking heads from the multi talented mr. Tommyboy (thanks again, Tom!). The head's skin is not so good because I did it myself (over a base skin of C6, so the good part is his, the bad is mine).

laughing paradox

I'm looking forward to this.. big Legion fan here!

John Jr.

Quote from: Previsionary on September 11, 2009, 02:02:43 AM
Good job on the modding, JJ. Always nice to see both a new mod and one geared towards the DCU. If ya need the mod hosted somewhere, FRP2 would be glad to host it. ^_^

It's done. Finished, tested and retested in two different computers.
How I can send it to you, so you can upload it to FRP2, Prev?
Once again, thanks for the help!

cmdrkoenig67

#24
I do like seeing my maps in folks' mods...Yay!  I can't wait to play it, JJ.

Dana

Must finish my own mod....Aaaaargh!

John Jr.

I hope you like the Mod, Dana. I couldn't make it without your maps, I used your maps in all the XXX century missions.

Sid

Looks very neat John Jr.  I am mostly a Marvel fan, but I still plan to have a go at your mod because I am, first and foremost, a FF fan.  :)

detourne_me

Great mod John Jr.!
It was pretty fun, and a nice encapsulation of the Legion universe.  I'm looking forward to seeing more of your mods, and your parts in Patriot City Tales.

John Jr.

Thanks!
I really need your feedback about the Mod. I want to do a second Legion story arc, so I really need to know what you liked and what need be fixed.
I already have a basic plot for part 2, but I need to know what Legionnaires you want to see in the second part (Supergirl is confirmed, what I can say, Just love the classic Kara).

detourne_me

#29
OK...you asked for it!
I'll break down my critique into a few parts...
Spoiler

1. Meshes and Skins - I understand you wanted to keep a lot of the firestorm skins out there, but i was surprised at some of the mesh selection you chose, for example not using the VX Cosmic Boy or VX Mon-el.  I know Toxic J has done some great LOS skins too. I personally would have loved to see the most up to date skins and meshes. But that is just a cosmetic thing.

I had ghosting issueswith the Khund and Science Police meshes,  but that is a known issue, so that's something I have to live with.

The other biggie for me is that not all of the meshes were conveted for FFVTTR, so there was brightness issues with the meshes. Sometimes they were too dark.

2. Hero Files and FX - I'm not very familiar with the characters, but I know the gist of their powers. I think you did a great job in capturing the varying power levels between Legion members. Great job there.

Also Voice Packs?  Excellent! Even if they aren'ttoo specific, they add a lot of character to the mod.

However, I know you used EZFX for a lot of the powers, but did not include those FX in your mod.  On the omputer I played it on, I do not have EZFX installed, so a LOT of the ranged powers were unavailable to me (like heat vision and freeze breath) Thankfully Ultra Boy, Mon-el and Superboy are tanks, and i just punched through everyone.
So for future installments, please include all of the FX used.

3. Cutscenes - Great job here, no complaints, nice actions, I always play the game with a camera locked on the character, so this lead to some really cool camera movements (i'm not sure if you planned them)  For example the camera was looking back at Saturn Girl as she ran down the hall in the mission cutscene in the base, very cool perspective.

The writing was fun and had some in jokes i believe (was Nemesis Kid referring to Princess Projecta?) However the grammar got a little messy in the last two missions.

4. Level Design/Scripting - Nice use of the maps. Level 1 was really great, I loved the inclusion of the secondary objective too. This was a very fun level to play, and I beat Bizarro a little too easily, but had a tough time with Amazo.

Level 2 was very fun, and had a classic video-game level style to it. I was really surprised by Radioactive Rob,  he took out half my squad when he died!

Level 3 was very good as well, but probably my least favorite level. It would be awesome if it was more of an escort mission, where you would have to escort the Science police from point A to point B.  But I did find them very helpful in the fight too (as my guys couldn't use ranged attacks).

Level 4 was very innovative, and a lot like level 1 because i had to think a bit to complete the level.  The fire trap was very well done. And I liked the large gun thing too.

5. All in all, I think you did a great job. Can't wait to see what's comes next. Maybe some Fatal Five?
Some Legionnaires I'd like to see... maybe Dawnstar, Tyroc, and Element Lad.