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Offline HarryTrotter

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #3780 on: February 15, 2021, 08:41:25 PM »
Between Ravencroft, Thunderbolt and this,Kingpin assembled a lot of bad guy teams lately.
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« Reply #3781 on: February 23, 2021, 12:18:31 PM »
Kingpin's assembling some.....top men.

Who?

TOP. MEN.

In other news, The Heroes Return tie-ins are one-shots. I'm glad. It would have been a much, especially since the main book is coming out weekly.

Also, spinning out of Outlawed, a Reptil miniseries?

I saw a comment online that says "Who asked for this?" And I'm thinking "I don't know if anyone did, but it is kinda neat."

And also he's not green for some reason like he was in that brief cameo in Bendis' Iron Man, so that's cool.

The preview pages look decent, and you can see the Avengers Acadamy kids in flashback material so that's fun. Haven't decided if I'm going to pick this up, so I'll wait for now and figure it out.

Ok, here's something else. It's the stupidest, most trivial thing ever, but we're comic nerds, Power Pack is back in the comics and darn it this frustrates the ever loving crap out of me.

How the hell does teenage superheroes aging work?

Kitty Pryde's an adult. Every single New Mutant is an adult. Jubilee's a single mom, and I did research while I was writing this and Kamala Khan was introduced as 15 in 2013 and is now 17 in 2019's Magnificent Ms. Marvel, which is nonsense of the highest order because Cassie Lang was introduced in 1979 and was "15....in June" in Young Avengers #2 in 2005, and she's 15 in Ant-Man #1 in 2015.

Like what the actual crap? Cassie Lang was introduced a good decade or so before I was even born, and she was introduced before Jubilee and Tim Drake were, and she was 14 8 years before Kamala was introduced and Kamala aged faster than she did. She wasn't dead for that long!
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #3782 on: March 05, 2021, 08:59:23 PM »
Avengers #43 So Black Panther has vibranium teeth? Like,why? 🤣
Other Phoenix-related stuff happens, but I can't get over this. Oh yeah,Thor talk with his mother and Jane steals jokes from Big Bang Theory. 🙄

Avengers Mech Strike #2 Okay,the Mech Suits are not as cool as I was led to believe and the characters are a bit off but it has
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. That helps a lot.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #3783 on: March 06, 2021, 09:54:11 AM »
Avengers Mech Strike #2 Okay,the Mech Suits are not as cool as I was led to believe and the characters are a bit off but it has
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You have my curiosity. I may have to look into this.
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« Reply #3784 on: March 15, 2021, 04:21:48 PM »
Here's a quick, curious comic roundup:

Amazing Spider-Man:

Because Spencer is taking a page from the Jason Aaron page of writing, where having a 3 year + gig means you can drag a running plot down to hell and back again:

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Mephisto's back and he's got some explaining to do about Peter Parker's magically damaged soul....

Oh snap, are they going there?

Next issue is a wacky storyline about Boomerang and the little space critter. Had me excited for a minute.


Non-Stop Spider-Man:

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Baron Zemo of all things is the villain in this, and he is so bizarrely out of character in this story by Joe Kelly I'm half-convinced it's Deadpool or some other imposter under the mask. He literally says the phrase "I can't even" and has two other lines in the backup story he appears in that seem to indicate he's been on social media a lot. Including one line "they have drip" I had to look up (apparently it means a sense of style and fashion sense).


And lastly, Deadpool 30th Anniversary (which I haven't actually finished):

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No Fabian Nicieza? He is the co-creator after all. He may not be the one who installed the humor DP is known for, but he's one of the guys who brought him to the party. But still, I'm all for some non-serious DP hi-jinks. (Marvel needs to turn their collective Angst dial down from 11.)

It's my pleasure to confirm that Fabian and Patrick Zircher have a story in this book, with Fabian's story revisiting Wade's time in Weapon X and Zircher exaggerating Wade's skin condition to what has to be the most extreme it's ever been. He looks like Swamp Thing if he was made out of maggots.

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Also Gail Simone's story featured Agent X, which made me quite happy.

A Cable-centric story also featured a smorgasbord of Cable designs from across the characters' history. "Soldier X" even made it in. Another story namedropped Vanessa aka Copycat.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #3785 on: March 16, 2021, 12:10:51 AM »
And lastly, Deadpool 30th Anniversary (which I haven't actually finished):

It's my pleasure to confirm that Fabian and Patrick Zircher have a story in this book, with Fabian's story revisiting Wade's time in Weapon X and Zircher exaggerating Wade's skin condition to what has to be the most extreme it's ever been. He looks like Swamp Thing if he was made out of maggots.


 You forgot the biggest thing in the whole book. It only took 30+ years, but Levi-Boy finally learned basic anatomy.... and how to properly draw feet.  :shock2: It actually seemed his section was done to contradict his naysayers by showing what is shockingly good art work. (Oh I have such a bad taste in my mouth, but truth is truth)

 Now excuse me, I need to go rinse my mouth out with bleach.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #3786 on: March 16, 2021, 02:53:25 AM »
Ben Affleck: No, bullcrap! Because I hadn't turned to that part ha-ha!

Yeah, it IS an improvement, it's some of Liefeld's best work (but let's be honest, part of the reason, as often is the case, is the colorist) but I've noticed a subtle improvement in the feet area for years, and some of it is....still not the greatest.

It still amuses me to no end that the feet joke actually made it into Deadpool 2, meaning mainstream audiences that the person who created Deadpool, Domino and Cable was known for an ability to draw feet.

But hey, Paco Medina learned how to draw noses somewhere around 2006, and Bachalo just got out a book with only one inker (admittedly, Non-Stop was delayed by almost a year, but oh well). #progress.
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« Reply #3787 on: March 25, 2021, 08:24:42 PM »
ASM #61 where Spider-Man gets relegated to a supporting character in his own title. Because Boomerang is about to throw down with Kingpin (he even remembers to parody Batmans speech) and Tombstone finds out his daughter is dating Randy Robbinson. I hope you all remember Superior Foes and Conways run on Spider-Man. Otherwise,this wouldn't make any sense.
Anyway,Im fine with all of this,but can we finally wrap up the Kindred thing?
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« Reply #3788 on: March 28, 2021, 06:01:48 AM »
I haven't even finished it, but this issue is definitely not a highlight.
On a related note, the letters page included in the previous issue had a nice variety of comments, some positive, some negative, and yes, Spider-Man getting relegated to a supporting character in his own title did come up. And Slott's run came up in the positive. Yeah, cuz Slott didn't do 30+ issues of Spider-Man replaced by a terrorist and have Pete standing around with his hands in his pockets for most of Spider-Verse while everyone told him he's "important" or whatever the phrasing was.

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Anyway,Im fine with all of this,but can we finally wrap up the Kindred thing?

Some runs (Zub's T-Bolts, DNA's Guardians/Nova content, Yost's Scarlet Spider) end so abruptly they don't actually get to resolve their plots and characters and they just disappear without a trace for years. (Never forget poor Jolt)

And then you have Aaron's Avengers and Spencer's Spidey where they go on for over 3 years and they just drag out stories until they start to get annoying (though at least Aaron's Avengers is fun in a so-bad-it's-good way).

Somewhere in the middle lies the sweet spot. And you know, more consistently decent writing helps.

So anyway, here's my long delayed thoughts on Champions: Outlawed #4! :P  (I haven't read #5 yet)

Ms. Marvel gets lectured about "doomscrolling" (which as I understand it, means being addicted to reading bad news and upsetting comments on social media). Whatever else I have to say about this mini, Eve Ewing gets all the praise in the multiverse for that, because it's actually a really good idea. I have no idea if that came up in her own book, but that was a good moment. Probably be better if it wasn't the Sam Alexander Nova giving the speech. I'm reasonably sure he's out of character in this book (I have been reading his content from the start, after all), but there's a slight possibility I'm getting him mixed up with the smug jerk from the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon?

Also Cycops is actually a nice guy, and not a tool, and that's nice and refreshing. And I am not going to ask why Shadowcat is now Captain Harlock minus the eyepatch (or if you prefer, Corsair from the Starjammers). Also Attuma shows up to cause trouble because there's no escaping Jason Aaron's Avengers. And the art is very noticeably rushed in spots to get this issue out in time (I took a look at the first two pages of #5 and it seems to be better).

Anyway, issue #3 had a letters page, and one person who wrote in had this to say:

"How about including some of the Avengers Academy generation from ten years ago here? And if we're talking young Avengers - not those ones -- then how about using Silverclaw or Triathalon/3-D Man? Those are some of the shortest tenured Avengers in history, natch -- but are they really that bad? Rage ended up with the New Warriors, right?"

The response from the writer herself was simply a joke about the book being packed with characters.

Of course I can relate. There's a lot of characters like that I wish would show up more. Nevar forget poor Jolt. And are Silverclaw and Triathalon/3-D Man that bad? They are not. No worse than some of the newer characters, and better than some. if you can't get content out of Jarvis' foster daughter, then you're just not interested in trying. And once again, Reptil has a new mini coming out.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #3789 on: April 06, 2021, 02:32:36 PM »
Im reading Alan Davis' Excalibur. Great art,even if I never really got into Excalibur. And I can always go for some Technet. I think they were last seen in a Rocket Racoon mini.
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« Reply #3790 on: April 06, 2021, 09:01:38 PM »
I think I've only read the opening graphic novel or one-shot or whatever. In a world of X-Men spinoffs, Excalibur was certainly unique. And Claremont got to indulge in some of his more wacky and strange elements.
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