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Title: again with the rabbits 0_O 17/1
Post by: deano_ue on February 13, 2013, 06:39:13 PM
well seeing as now i suffer from unemployment i've had a bit more time on my hands so i decided to start picking up the pencils again. you may now start running

just some rough sketches to get me back into the flow

Spoiler
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/batmansketch_zpsc3940e20.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/harleyrough_zps17574a28.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/skeletor_zps9cbc6aa5.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/whiterabbit_zpsf719886d.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/slimer_zpsc50e32f2.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/dawn013_zpse7675fa6.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/catwomansketch_zpsf417041f.jpg)
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Grendal_71 on February 13, 2013, 07:56:02 PM
Very Nice! I was always in awe of "Skeletor"....for a bag o' bones wizard, he's really jacked!
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Tomato on February 14, 2013, 01:52:10 AM
Those are really good man, far better than what I could ever do.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: DrMike2000 on February 14, 2013, 01:58:41 AM
That is some really impressive work there. I'm envious of what you can do.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Podmark on February 14, 2013, 05:20:39 AM
Very nice. I especially like that Catwoman.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: naitvalis on February 14, 2013, 07:44:10 AM
nice sketchs! catwoman is my favourite to, is already clear that you have a good hand .
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Ephemeris on February 14, 2013, 10:44:01 PM
Awesome stuff!  I'm partial to the White Rabbit piece.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on February 16, 2013, 01:07:59 PM
Very nice, TUE!

Dana
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 16, 2013, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: DrMike2000 on February 14, 2013, 01:58:41 AM
That is some really impressive work there. I'm envious of what you can do.

Ditto, I wish I had just a fraction of your skill.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Figure Fan on February 18, 2013, 02:09:14 AM
Wow, these are great! Batman, Catwoman, and the rabbit with the pocket watch are especially impressive. They have a good sense of mass and dimension. Is there any way you could go freelance with your work? You could check out some sites like "Behance" and "See.Me", maybe.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
Ok, am I the only one who has issues with some of these, or am I just the only one to voice it?  Granted, I have no training, and no skill (even my stick figures look ugly), so maybe I'm not seeing things the way I should.  FWIW, here's my non-professional input.

I like Batman, and though I'm partial to the pre-Crisis/Dark Knight design / Jim Aparo/Neil Adams look, I still think this is a good piece, and it's mostly solid.  What bugs me about it is his head & neck.  They don't seem to be lined up along the central line of his chest, and, well, for lack of a proper term, the bottom of his shorts.  It almost looks like he's giving us a head slide from a Tyler Perry movie.  And I can't decide if the position of the right hand would completely hide the glove fringe (is there an official term for those things?).

Harley is looking a bit.....masculine.  Like she's been hitting the gym pretty hard.  As a sketch itself, it's probably fine, but given the character that it's of, it doesn't seem to fit.  The neck is a bit thick, the jaw a bit too solid, and that's probably the most static expression I've ever seen her drawn with.

My knowledge of MOTU is pretty limited, so I only really have two issues with this.  I guess my mental image of Skeletor has a slightly bigger hood, and his right hand is missing a finger.  Maybe it's hanging on Prince Adam's belt as a trophy.  Otherwise, it looks really good.

I think the White Rabbit is the best of the bunch.  I would have to compare it side-by-side with an official Disney image to attempt to find any fault with it.

TUE, I've always thought of you as a serious artist that knows what he's doing, and who appreciates honest feedback.  If any of this touches a nerve, I apologize.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 19, 2013, 03:17:38 AM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
Ok, am I the only one who has issues with some of these, or am I just the only one to voice it?  Granted, I have no training, and no skill (even my stick figures look ugly), so maybe I'm not seeing things the way I should.  FWIW, here's my non-professional input.


I just feel that I really have no place critiqueing someone else's work. I've stated time and again, I'm not an artist in any way, shape, or form. I could give my opinions as a non-artist, but I would really have no clue where to start or how to do so without coming off as being offensive. So it's not that you are the only one to find flaws (I do agree with you about Harley), I just chose not to voice my opinions. But I will say that the White Rabbit and Slimer are particularly well done.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: naitvalis on February 19, 2013, 12:08:45 PM
critiques and honest reviews are very helpful Panther, i still see a good hand wich is maybe a little rusted, but the elements are there.
personally i think Ue must be happy to have  your detailed review.
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: deano_ue on February 19, 2013, 12:09:33 PM
ok first off i have no problems with people critiquing my work, with the amount of work i have produced for this group you think if i did i wouldn't have snapped by now

Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
Ok, am I the only one who has issues with some of these, or am I just the only one to voice it?  Granted, I have no training, and no skill (even my stick figures look ugly), so maybe I'm not seeing things the way I should.  FWIW, here's my non-professional input.

I like Batman, and though I'm partial to the pre-Crisis/Dark Knight design / Jim Aparo/Neil Adams look, I still think this is a good piece, and it's mostly solid.  What bugs me about it is his head & neck.  They don't seem to be lined up along the central line of his chest, and, well, for lack of a proper term, the bottom of his shorts.  It almost looks like he's giving us a head slide from a Tyler Perry movie.  And I can't decide if the position of the right hand would completely hide the glove fringe (is there an official term for those things?).

no i agree and its something thats stood out from the original pencil work and more so now i've tired inking the thing. the basic pose was taking from a shot of the kubert batman toy i have sitting on a shelf( with obvious changes)  since i ink by printing my pencils on Bristol board it shouldn't be that hard to move the head in pS

Spoiler
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/DSCF1834_zps089d08c2.jpg)

Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
Harley is looking a bit.....masculine.  Like she's been hitting the gym pretty hard.  As a sketch itself, it's probably fine, but given the character that it's of, it doesn't seem to fit.  The neck is a bit thick, the jaw a bit too solid, and that's probably the most static expression I've ever seen her drawn with.

this i'm gonna have to agree and disagree with, i do agree the jaw is a bit broad with whats people are used to, but i was using kristen bell (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hLs0CZ0tXuA/UOEKrbcsL9I/AAAAAAAACvQ/YbgFK0uSzNM/s1600/Kristen-Bell-gorgeous.jpg) as a base so i dont know if i should lean more towards the actress likeness or the characters traditional look lol

I was trying something with using real life actress as the character same reason the catwoman is based on Audrey Hepburn, harley based on bell and i have no idea for ivy

Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
My knowledge of MOTU is pretty limited, so I only really have two issues with this.  I guess my mental image of Skeletor has a slightly bigger hood, and his right hand is missing a finger.  Maybe it's hanging on Prince Adam's belt as a trophy.  Otherwise, it looks really good.


the hoods something thats changed depending on artist impressions really.
Spoiler
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/dbskeletor_heads_zpsc6a0fd56.jpg)
and much like batman it was based on the toy sittiing beside me at the time, so i went with the more classic style tight hood.

but maybe i'm wrong but both hands all the fingers, the right hand the one holding the staff?? there is 4 fingers gripping the staff and the thumb

Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
I think the White Rabbit is the best of the bunch.  I would have to compare it side-by-side with an official Disney image to attempt to find any fault with it.

thank you that means a lot, i tried to get the look of the disney version. the sketch was original meant as a gift for someone who sadly through all of my fault i'm not really on speaking terms with anymore

Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 18, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
TUE, I've always thought of you as a serious artist that knows what he's doing, and who appreciates honest feedback.  If any of this touches a nerve, I apologize.

serious artist?? nah i may have a degree in it but i'm in no way a serious artist, i could never get my head that far up my own arse. trust me mate you ask anyone of the guys i talk to privately on here and they will you i hate and often despise most not if all of my art. i'm just never happy with it and always find faults so i have no problem with others doing so infact it helps because i get ways to fix it or even stop me nitpicking ones that dont exists 
Title: Re: toning a rabbit 20/4
Post by: deano_ue on April 20, 2013, 11:21:58 PM
had some extra time so i tired my hand again at colouring an image.

something that started out as a gift of a simple pencil sketch for someone that was never given due to outside circumstances.

my first coloured piece in a few years

Spoiler
(http://www.deanirvine.co.uk/white%20rabbit015.jpg)


the various stages of my first traditional disney sketch in years

was with all intentions meant to be finished and left alone at stage 2

Spoiler
(http://www.deanirvine.co.uk/rabbit%20stages.jpg)
Title: Re: toning a rabbit 20/4
Post by: naitvalis on April 22, 2013, 06:07:08 PM
a very polished piece you have here Ue, there are just few things that i can say to, maybe, improve it.
first of all the other leg of the rabbit, i don't think the leg must be completely hidden, maybe the final part of the paw must be visible.
the other thing is regard the eyes wich in my opinion are to red, but i know this is only a matter of tastes.
now i take the occasion to say thank you for all the skins you have done for  :ff: .
Title: Re: toning a rabbit 20/4
Post by: Tomato on April 22, 2013, 07:05:46 PM
I don't have any problems with the image itself, but the shading on the colored image is... off. I think part of the problem is that you're coloring it like you're making a FF skin, rather then a standalone image. On a skin, we tend to ignore light sources for the most part, because the mesh is gonna move around in game anyway. Here though, the lack of a central light source is very noticeable (compare the right arm, where light seems to come from a downward angle, to the left ear, which comes from a higher one. The clock in particular has light coming from 3 distinct sources depending on which portion you're looking at).

To be fair though, I think it looks best without the shading anyway, so whatevs.
Title: Re: i'm not bad i'm just drawn that way 19/8
Post by: deano_ue on August 19, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
wanted to try practicing digital sketching using my new cintiq. so ended up just sketching the thing on the desk beside the tablet. no pencil or paper all in PS

lol why has my past 2 fully finished sketches been linked to rabbits in some way



(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/jessica2_zps80448e47.jpg) (http://s27.photobucket.com/user/the_ultimate_evil/media/jessica2_zps80448e47.jpg.html)

also a speed painting of the sketch coming together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LIKNMNscU
Title: Re: i'm not bad i'm just drawn that way 19/8
Post by: naitvalis on August 22, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
hello Ue, so you have started digital drawings uh? this is a very interesting news, i'm sure you can achieve wonderful results.
Now about the wife of the rabbit, sure roger is a lucky guy  :D, however the only thing i can say is i found the image with to many lines wich are not necessary needed (i don't mean that ones in light blue, obviously that ones are just the sketch skeleton), for example, you can try deleting the circle breast line on the dress at all, or keeping just one line for the other breast and profile .
Same thing abot the arm, you can delete all the lines "in" and keep just the profile and the glove limit, this is my opinion on the draw.
Now i know this is just a practice, anyhow I gave you my suggests to continue practicing on this image.
1-draw she at a full figure.
2-you can transorm that rectangle shape in a full figure mirror .

hope this can help you in some way.
Title: Re: i'm not bad i'm just drawn that way 19/8
Post by: Deaths Jester on August 23, 2013, 02:27:40 PM
I'd say something but nothing I say is useful or worthwhile...so I won't say anything.
Title: Re: i'm not bad i'm just drawn that way 19/8
Post by: daglob on August 23, 2013, 09:02:33 PM
Just remember: Layers, like an ogre....
Title: Re: sketch dump
Post by: BlueBard on August 28, 2013, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on February 19, 2013, 12:09:33 PMserious artist?? nah i may have a degree in it but i'm in no way a serious artist, i could never get my head that far up my own arse. trust me mate you ask anyone of the guys i talk to privately on here and they will you i hate and often despise most not if all of my art. i'm just never happy with it and always find faults so i have no problem with others doing so infact it helps because i get ways to fix it or even stop me nitpicking ones that dont exists

Funny, I just read an article about Jack Kirby on Lifehacker.  Self-taught artist and one of the most prolific and famous comic book artists ever and his philosophy was that he didn't have time for "perfect".

Sure, take the criticism, but in the end you've got to settle for "done" in order to be productive.  I'm no artist, but I've learned that myself the hard way.  Attention to detail is great, even necessary, but you're a very good artist and you don't need to bash yourself for not being perfect.  Fix obvious problems and be intentional, even strategic, about the things you "fudge".

Ps. Loved the Catwoman sketch.  Missed the Hepburn, but the important thing is the inspired choice.
Title: Re: i'm not bad i'm just drawn that way 19/8
Post by: daglob on August 28, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
I've seen an interview with one artist (JR Jr.?) who said basically that the best job was the one you finished on deadline. Sure, if you had another (week, month, year) you could do it better, but the whole point was getting it finished on time. That may be why some artist develop deceptively sparse styles, like Alex Toth.
Title: Re: little miss dracula 10/9
Post by: deano_ue on September 10, 2013, 06:31:39 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/9720009092_bf2f311629_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/9720009092/)
mavis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/9720009092/) by the ultimate evil (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_ultimate_evil/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5526/9720009706_7a7f1b4718_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/9720009706/)
mavis inks (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/9720009706/) by the ultimate evil (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_ultimate_evil/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3736/9716778175_3c26bf6cdb_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/9716778175/)
mavis stages (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/9716778175/) by the ultimate evil (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_ultimate_evil/), on Flickr


this is what i get for doodling while watching hotel Transylvania
Title: Re: little miss dracula 10/9
Post by: BentonGrey on September 10, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
Hey TUE, these are great!  I REALLY love that Skeletor and...is that Slimer?
Title: Re: little miss dracula 10/9
Post by: oldmanwinters on September 10, 2013, 11:55:37 PM
WOAH, Super Nice, TUE!

As an amateur doodler myself, I say you are quite the talent!
Title: Re: little miss dracula 10/9
Post by: Outcast on September 11, 2013, 03:08:39 PM
Mavis looks great TUE. My niece would make me her favorite uncle if i could draw something like that.  :P
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: deano_ue on October 06, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/dawn_zpsecfee355.jpg) (http://s27.photobucket.com/user/the_ultimate_evil/media/dawn_zpsecfee355.jpg.html)

layouts for a possible sketch
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: Deaths Jester on October 07, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
Well, at least it's not Disney!   :P

I would though consider reworking the tears, maybe crank it down to one tear and up a bit of the sadness look...if that's what you're going for.  If the tears are instead blood then go for a bit more smeared look but keep the three tears.

Not one-hundred percent on what you're going for so my advice is a bit scattershot.
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: deano_ue on October 07, 2013, 06:12:59 PM
No don't worry do I welcome all feedback of any kind

The tears are kinda important to the character it's Joseph Michael linsners dawn character so the tears are kinda her bat symbol. But I ink you're right about he length and shape

I can't post example due to being on an iPad but do a search for linsner dawn it's kinda stuff you'd like.
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: daglob on October 07, 2013, 09:53:12 PM
While I think it has varied over the years, I think the way it is most often portrayed is that the tear tracks get longer toward the outside of her eye.
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: hoss20 on October 07, 2013, 09:56:40 PM
One thing you might consider is moving the location of the tears, as well. Tears generally fall from the inner corner of the eye because that's where they travel to be drained. Maybe, moving the outer tear streams to the inner and outer corners might help with the look (or at least play with the inner one to see if that appears more realistic). I think trying this along with your adjustments to the size and shape of the tears will bear good results. Advice aside, I think this is a an excellent portrait.
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: deano_ue on October 08, 2013, 01:47:01 PM
cheers again guys seems daglob is familiar with the character but i think i've confused some of you with the tears,they are not real tears, its kinda more like face paint or make up

see what i mean


Spoiler
(http://cdn.pinupfans.com/Images/Category_1666/subcat_218/Green%20Angel%20Dawn.jpg)
(http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/C116357.jpg)
http://www.comicvine.com/dawn/4005-18403/images/


seriously guys i would check the guys books out its kinda heavey with some not safe for board themes (religion, politics, sex) but the artwork is beautiful, i mean the 2 i posted there were both done with markers
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: Deaths Jester on October 08, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Okay, now that makes better sense now that I've seen what you're shooting for because with the black& white all I had very little to go from.  I still think thought the length and shape need to be reworked slightly though, much like you re-iterated you looking into after I posted originally.  Also, you might want to bring them a bit closer together too because at the moment the pic you have posted are scattered quite wide apart across the eye compared to the pics you referenced and perhaps you might want to up the makeup around her eyes some too.
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: hoss20 on October 09, 2013, 03:20:49 AM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on October 08, 2013, 01:47:01 PM
cheers again guys seems daglob is familiar with the character but i think i've confused some of you with the tears,they are not real tears, its kinda more like face paint or make up

see what i mean


Spoiler
(http://cdn.pinupfans.com/Images/Category_1666/subcat_218/Green%20Angel%20Dawn.jpg)
(http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/C116357.jpg)
http://www.comicvine.com/dawn/4005-18403/images/


seriously guys i would check the guys books out its kinda heavey with some not safe for board themes (religion, politics, sex) but the artwork is beautiful, i mean the 2 i posted there were both done with markers

Ah, well then, completely disregard everything I said.  :banghead:
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: daglob on October 09, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
There was one story I saw where she (or one of her incarnations) painted the tears on her face with eye makeup. Another time I think someone cried (cry for Dawn... natch) and got the tear effect. It's just one of those things... like never seening her other eye.

The Wolverine/Black Cat team up "Claws" is both funny and beautifully illustrated.
Title: Re: tears of a goddess 6/10
Post by: Guardian7 on October 10, 2013, 06:57:56 PM
Nice work!

Some of your full figures seem a tad stiff... but they are just mostly pencils and easily corrected.

Your muscle definition on the boys needs a little bit of work. Again... another very easy fix.

Your cartooning and anime style are very pro looking. indistinguishable from some of the work I have seen from others (yes that is a compliment)

Your Catwoman rocks. Except for the tapering of the left eye to the right (A habit I am horribly known for myself). Irregardless of that small detail. It is a beautiful pic. Love the level of black gloss highlight you gave to her hood.

The colored rabbit is the bomb! Awesome job!

Your Harley reminds me a bit of the artist named Bart Sears. I am not a real fan of his work because his women tended to look a bit manly. Tone it done a bit and smooth out your lines and she would look alluringly feminine.

Best way you can test a piece of work you might think is dead on is to flip it. Either on a light board or a simple non-damp window. You will see your flaws as soon as you do. Not all flaws need to be corrected. In illustration, forced perspective and the bending of the laws of physics is permitted. But simple things like aligned eyes (My personal bane again) is not.

Awesome job. Keep up the good work!

G7
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: deano_ue on November 28, 2013, 11:56:48 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/11108686385_f9cb0a4e43_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/11108686385/)
dawn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/11108686385/) by the ultimate evil (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_ultimate_evil/), on Flickr
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: spydermann93 on November 28, 2013, 11:59:37 PM
Beau. Tea. Full!
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: Figure Fan on November 30, 2013, 12:23:32 AM
Great line work here. The hood and scarf are rendered in such a way that gives them a good sense of volume. What is this for, btw?
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: Deaths Jester on November 30, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
Much better tear work, UE...definitely closer tot eh look o the character you were shooting for!
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: deano_ue on November 30, 2013, 10:55:36 PM
cheers guys.

shj truthfully its just for me, ever sciene i got a cintiq i've been trying to do some more sketching. this was just something i started a while ago. why do you ask
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: Deaths Jester on December 03, 2013, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on November 30, 2013, 10:55:36 PM
cheers guys.

shj truthfully its just for me, ever sciene i got a cintiq i've been trying to do some more sketching. this was just something i started a while ago. why do you ask

You got a cintiq...oh you, you....I'm going to hunt you down and take your cintiq away from you...been wanting one of those for years but instead I'm stuck with a bloody keyboard and mouse...>(
Title: Re: tears of a goddess mkII 28/11
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 24, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
Don't know how I missed this, but you have a fantastic eye for detail.

I check out your website every so often, it's always a visual treat.
Title: Re: again with the rabbits 0_O 17/1
Post by: deano_ue on January 17, 2014, 04:59:27 PM
Cb that means a lot it really does ( thought that site needs a major overhall lol )

this was done as a gift, dont ask and yeah i know but i didnt pick the subject

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2886/11998772216_7c1610d7ab_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/11998772216/)
thumper sketch (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ultimate_evil/11998772216/) by the ultimate evil (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_ultimate_evil/), on Flickr
Title: Re: again with the rabbits 0_O 17/1
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 21, 2014, 03:18:48 PM
AHHHH!!!  Cute little Disney bunny!!  RUN AWAY!!!  RUN AWAY!!!!